Most photography all sizzle no steak?

08/23/2013 01:44:55 PM · #26

Originally posted by tate:

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Not possible.

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08/23/2013 02:39:16 PM · #27

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by tate:

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Not possible.

See the movie George Of The Jungle and you might change your mind ... :-)

blindjustice

Canon EOS-7D

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08/23/2013 02:50:46 PM · #28

Originally posted by tate:

I had a darkroom in my basement in college.
Then in my apartment after I graduated I built another one.
From a creative perspective, it was a pain in the ass.
And I can tell you without hesitation that my interest and level of creativity simply exploded when I used my first decent digital camera.
If it weren't for affordable digital cameras, I probably wouldn't have made a penny on photography and wouldn't have nearly the portfolio I have today.

My life would suck and I would have killed myself at least 3-times â�¦ and killed myself again.

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Passion and caffeine are good; no need to apologize.

BTW. I love digital photography. can't get enough, oversnapping, chimping, phone photography- the whole lot of it.

Spork99

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08/23/2013 02:57:58 PM · #29

Some photos are created as document. Others are created as artistic works. Sometimes the two overlap.

I love the camera on my phone, but mostly for its capacity to conveniently document, to say, "I was here and this is what I saw that I wanted to share". That's about the extent of their vocabulary for me.

I use my other cameras to say more complex things.

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

08/23/2013 03:03:00 PM · #30

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by tate:

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Not possible.

First time I had espresso, I drank the first one after dinner with a friend and thought, "Hey that was great, I'll have another." which led to another and another and another...

I was running amok until noon the next day when I crashed...

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/23/2013 03:07:49 PM · #31

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by tate:

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Not possible.

First time I had espresso, I drank the first one after dinner with a friend and thought, "Hey that was great, I'll have another." which led to another and another and another...

I was running amok until noon the next day when I crashed...

FWIW, as a rule, the darker the roast the lower the caffeine content -- if you really need a substantial buzz grab a can of Folger's or something in the supermarket, not Italian-roast beans at Starbucks ...

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 17-35mm f/2.8D IF-ED

08/23/2013 03:31:59 PM · #32

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by tate:

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Not possible.

First time I had espresso, I drank the first one after dinner with a friend and thought, "Hey that was great, I'll have another." which led to another and another and another...

I was running amok until noon the next day when I crashed...

FWIW, as a rule, the darker the roast the lower the caffeine content -- if you really need a substantial buzz grab a can of Folger's or something in the supermarket, not Italian-roast beans at Starbucks ...

Absolutely right. I tried brewing green coffee once though - let me advise you that at least a city roast is preferable. (although it did have ONE HELL of a kick, it tasted nothing like coffee.)

tanguera

Nikon D750

08/23/2013 03:36:36 PM · #33

Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by tanguera:

Originally posted by tate:
The fact that corporations seem to rule the planet is forever troubling - but to say that creativity suffers because of it is not wrong. Creativity and art itself are often born of conflict and struggle - so it isn't going anywhere.

This has ALWAYS been the case. It wasn't THAT long ago that all art was commissioned and sanctioned by the church, arguably history's largest corporation.

The church got a lot more bang for it's buck than Starbucks and Target.

And there were fewer people, etc. etc. Everything's a compromise. All change brings the need for innovation of some sort. And also brings about the end of the way some things have been done. For some people, it's good. For those who cannot adapt, not so much.

But back to the fact that we are at least about 10 times as many people, globally, as there were back when the Church told you want to paint/sculpt/etc. Plus sharing that "art" was a lot more difficult, and certainly more localized. Walk through any art museum, and notice the preponderance of saints and martyrs. Where they today's cappuccino foam art?

Spork99

OM System OM-1

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

08/23/2013 03:48:54 PM · #34

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Yes, generally, you would be correct but this was not simply drip brewed coffee from dark roasted espresso beans, but honest to goodness espresso, brewed under pressure. That pressure brewing process creates a beverage with a significantly higher concentration by volume of caffeine than drip brewing. Espresso will have a caffeine concentration of around 2.5 mg/ml while drip brewed coffee will be about 0.8 mg/ml.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/23/2013 03:52:53 PM · #35

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by tate:

Sorry too much coffee ;P

Not possible.

First time I had espresso, I drank the first one after dinner with a friend and thought, "Hey that was great, I'll have another." which led to another and another and another...

I was running amok until noon the next day when I crashed...

FWIW, as a rule, the darker the roast the lower the caffeine content -- if you really need a substantial buzz grab a can of Folger's or something in the supermarket, not Italian-roast beans at Starbucks ...

Yes, generally, you would be correct but this was not simply drip brewed coffee from dark roasted espresso beans, but honest to goodness espresso, brewed under pressure. That pressure brewing process creates a beverage with a significantly higher concentration by volume of caffeine than drip brewing. Espresso will have a caffeine concentration of around 2.5 mg/ml while drip brewed coffee will be about 0.8 mg/ml.

You should drop by for a cup of my regular Joe. Easily as strong as espresso - granted, I do use a french press to achieve those levels of awesomeness.

Although, nothing, and I do mean nothing, beats Turkish or Cuban coffee. The Turks literally dissolve the beans in water, and the Cubans make something that I think of as 'espresso syrup'..

DrAchoo

Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX5

08/23/2013 06:12:47 PM · #36

A cup of Starbucks coffee has about twice the caffeine content per ounce as compared to a cup of Folgers...

snaffles

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Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-200mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR II

08/23/2013 08:34:24 PM · #37

Good ol DPC...only here could a thread start with an array of responses to an article and somehow morph into a discussion on coffee :-)

FWIW I think Starbucks is brilliant - they produce some product that tastes mostly of burnt water and charge the earth and moon for it. I make a way better cuppa joe from generic cheap instant coffee, milk, sugar and water.

Bear_Music

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Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

08/23/2013 08:36:01 PM · #38

Bonus points for the first person who knows where Starbucks got their name from...

hahn23

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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS II USM Lens

08/23/2013 08:37:29 PM · #39

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Bonus points for the first person who knows where Starbucks got their name from...

Moby DIck

Starbuck, the young chief mate of the Pequod, is a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket.

Message edited by author 2013-08-23 20:39:12.

Bear_Music

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Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

08/23/2013 08:39:26 PM · #40

More specifically?

ETA: Yup, there ya go. Don't spend your bonus points all in one place :-)

Message edited by author 2013-08-23 20:40:00.

Yo_Spiff

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Olympus 12-100mm f/4.0 M.Zuiko ED IS PRO

08/23/2013 08:41:43 PM · #41

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Bonus points for the first person who knows where Starbucks got their name from...

Battlestar Galactica?

Art Roflmao

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Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

08/23/2013 09:16:04 PM · #42

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Bonus points for the first person who knows where Starbucks got their name from...

Moby DIck

Starbuck, the young chief mate of the Pequod, is a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket.

Reminds me of that limerick "There once was a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket..."

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

08/23/2013 09:24:41 PM · #43

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by hahn23:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Bonus points for the first person who knows where Starbucks got their name from...

Moby DIck

Starbuck, the young chief mate of the Pequod, is a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket.

Reminds me of that limerick "There once was a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket..."

Interestingly, I've actually written a limerick on that book ... ;-)

Message edited by author 2013-08-23 21:25:06.

hihosilver

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08/23/2013 09:28:31 PM · #44

The most important lesson I've learned on DPC is how to roast green coffee beans at home.

Sweet Maria's

::Beams sweetly at

bvy::

ambaker

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08/23/2013 09:34:41 PM · #45

Originally posted by tate:

And who says "shooting for yourself" is creative?
It's almost backwards.
Masturbating is not creative.

If I make copies of the Mona Lisa all day, how is that creative? If I paint my fantasy girl, you may not like it; but I have managed to give life to my own passions and longings.

There is nothing "wrong" with digital. I've certainly spent a fair amount of money on it. I happen to like the pace and thought that film requires. Others may not. Doesn't make either of us wrong.

I think there is a difference between creative, and recording. Taking a shot of a newborn and sharing with the family is a wonderful thing. Bit I do not see it as "creative". The problem is we are bombarded by everyone's recordings, and have a hard time finding the creative moments. If it's my granddaughter, even the blurriest, noisiest, poorly framed image is pure gold. But for you I realize that it is just flotsam and jetsam cast adrift upon an Internet sea.

Bear_Music

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Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

08/23/2013 09:44:19 PM · #46

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Reminds me of that limerick "There once was a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket..."

Here:

A Quaker I met on Nantucket
Liked to keep all his socks in a bucket.
The bucket got hung
from a hook in his tongue:
If a sock needed washing, he'd suck it.

I just made this up on the spur of the moment. Honest!

08/23/2013 09:56:05 PM · #47

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Reminds me of that limerick "There once was a thoughtful and intellectual Quaker from Nantucket..."

Here:

A Quaker I met on Nantucket
Liked to keep all his socks in a bucket.
The bucket got hung
from a hook in his tongue:
If a sock needed washing, he'd suck it.

I just made this up on the spur of the moment. Honest!

Disgustingly beautiful!