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07/30/2013 10:28:26 AM · #1 |
I thought this was rather cool (albeit a lot of work!)
//vimeo.com/66352973 |
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07/30/2013 11:28:39 AM · #2 |
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07/30/2013 12:02:13 PM · #3 |
| Loved this video! As my daughters would say..."Coolio!" |
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07/30/2013 06:27:11 PM · #4 |
| Sure yields a beautiful print! And I'm sure they will still be beautiful decades from now. |
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07/30/2013 08:24:47 PM · #5 |
Very cool. Seems like a very cool hybrid process spanning the new and the old.
Question: Does anyone know the details on how to create the negatives for this?
Our local Art Institute of offering a platinum/palladium printing workshop this Fall and I'd like to take it, but I want to spend the 3 days making prints, not fiddling around with making negs. |
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07/30/2013 08:28:40 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Very cool. Seems like a very cool hybrid process spanning the new and the old.
Question: Does anyone know the details on how to create the negatives for this?
Our local Art Institute of offering a platinum/palladium printing workshop this Fall and I'd like to take it, but I want to spend the 3 days making prints, not fiddling around with making negs. |
Print an inverted image onto a transparency - instant negative |
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07/30/2013 08:47:13 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Very cool. Seems like a very cool hybrid process spanning the new and the old.
Question: Does anyone know the details on how to create the negatives for this?
Our local Art Institute of offering a platinum/palladium printing workshop this Fall and I'd like to take it, but I want to spend the 3 days making prints, not fiddling around with making negs. |
Print an inverted image onto a transparency - instant negative |
Yes, that's the very basics of the process.
I doubt it's quite that simple in action, at least to achieve any level of quality beyond just creating an image.
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07/30/2013 09:48:05 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Very cool. Seems like a very cool hybrid process spanning the new and the old.
Question: Does anyone know the details on how to create the negatives for this?
Our local Art Institute of offering a platinum/palladium printing workshop this Fall and I'd like to take it, but I want to spend the 3 days making prints, not fiddling around with making negs. |
Print an inverted image onto a transparency - instant negative |
Yes, that's the very basics of the process.
I doubt it's quite that simple in action, at least to achieve any level of quality beyond just creating an image. |
Well, if it were me, and not having done this, I can't say for sure how well this will work - but I would use a laser printer (or let the emulsion dry? or use a water proof ink), then place the transparency where the ink side is towards the emulsion, since the thickness of the transparency itself would cause a slight gaussian blur effect...
I'd also print really dark, to ensure full blockage of the exposure light - it looked like they left it to expose for a long time in that video..
Other than that though? Probably not much to this, I've certainly done contact printing before, and can't see any reason why a good transparency print wouldn't work just as well as anything.
Usually, I do the contact prints with photo paper onto photo paper, I'm certain that the results from a nicely printed transparency would be superior to that process, and the paper-paper contact prints look pretty darn good.
Look around though, if you do find out something more, please let me know, since I agree that this is a very attractive printing process to consider (way beyond archival grade process, and the tonal range... wow)
Message edited by author 2013-07-30 21:59:16. |
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07/30/2013 10:02:39 PM · #9 |
Looks easy in fact.
I've gotta try this. |
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07/30/2013 10:33:26 PM · #10 |
that looks time consuming
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07/30/2013 11:06:09 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Very cool. Seems like a very cool hybrid process spanning the new and the old.
Question: Does anyone know the details on how to create the negatives for this?
Our local Art Institute of offering a platinum/palladium printing workshop this Fall and I'd like to take it, but I want to spend the 3 days making prints, not fiddling around with making negs. |
Print an inverted image onto a transparency - instant negative |
Yes, that's the very basics of the process.
I doubt it's quite that simple in action, at least to achieve any level of quality beyond just creating an image. |
Well, if it were me, and not having done this, I can't say for sure how well this will work - but I would use a laser printer (or let the emulsion dry? or use a water proof ink), then place the transparency where the ink side is towards the emulsion, since the thickness of the transparency itself would cause a slight gaussian blur effect...
I'd also print really dark, to ensure full blockage of the exposure light - it looked like they left it to expose for a long time in that video..
Other than that though? Probably not much to this, I've certainly done contact printing before, and can't see any reason why a good transparency print wouldn't work just as well as anything.
Usually, I do the contact prints with photo paper onto photo paper, I'm certain that the results from a nicely printed transparency would be superior to that process, and the paper-paper contact prints look pretty darn good.
Look around though, if you do find out something more, please let me know, since I agree that this is a very attractive printing process to consider (way beyond archival grade process, and the tonal range... wow) |
I'm not worried about the contact printing process, that's one of the easier parts IMO. The trick will be in making a good negative from the digital file, one that has the correct tonal range and smooth transitions for shining light through to make a print on the selected emulsion. That will be quite different than what would look good printed on an opaque surface for direct viewing.
This guy literally (and figuratively) wrote the book on making digital negatives. |
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08/01/2013 10:09:59 AM · #12 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
...The trick will be in making a good negative from the digital file, one that has the correct tonal range and smooth transitions for shining light through to make a print on the selected emulsion. That will be quite different than what would look good printed on an opaque surface for direct viewing.
This guy literally (and figuratively) wrote the book on making digital negatives. |
Indeed, the creation of the physical negative will be crucial. Thanks for the link to Dan's site, I was unaware of it. Looks like a great resource. This would be a lot of fun to do, but looks to require a substantial effort to set up. |
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08/01/2013 10:14:03 AM · #13 |
I found these guys last night. Looks like the Zia Type is an amazing choice.
//www.bostick-sullivan.com/ |
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08/01/2013 10:22:31 AM · #14 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by Spork99:
...The trick will be in making a good negative from the digital file, one that has the correct tonal range and smooth transitions for shining light through to make a print on the selected emulsion. That will be quite different than what would look good printed on an opaque surface for direct viewing.
This guy literally (and figuratively) wrote the book on making digital negatives. |
Indeed, the creation of the physical negative will be crucial. Thanks for the link to Dan's site, I was unaware of it. Looks like a great resource. This would be a lot of fun to do, but looks to require a substantial effort to set up. |
Since I'm going to do a platinum/palladium workshop in November that assumes you have at least some experience creating negative for contact printing, I bought his book and I'm going through it now. So far, it seems to be like setting up any process; controlling the variables to get good results is fairly involved. It would seem that he has most of the bases covered. The biggest challenge for me will be to set up my Canon printer because the book only refers to Epson printers.
I'm pretty sure a very nice setup capable of 16"x20" prints could be established for less than $1000 assuming that you build your own UV light source and already have a printer. |
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08/01/2013 10:52:10 AM · #15 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Since I'm going to do a platinum/palladium workshop in November that assumes you have at least some experience creating negative for contact printing, I bought his book and I'm going through it now. So far, it seems to be like setting up any process; controlling the variables to get good results is fairly involved. It would seem that he has most of the bases covered. The biggest challenge for me will be to set up my Canon printer because the book only refers to Epson printers. |
You might find the people at the DPUG forum helpful for advice with digital negatives: //www.dpug.org
Kevin
Message edited by author 2013-08-01 10:52:24. |
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08/01/2013 12:27:00 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by paynekj:
Originally posted by Spork99:
Since I'm going to do a platinum/palladium workshop in November that assumes you have at least some experience creating negative for contact printing, I bought his book and I'm going through it now. So far, it seems to be like setting up any process; controlling the variables to get good results is fairly involved. It would seem that he has most of the bases covered. The biggest challenge for me will be to set up my Canon printer because the book only refers to Epson printers. |
You might find the people at the DPUG forum helpful for advice with digital negatives: //www.dpug.org
Kevin |
Ooooh thanks. I was not aware of this resource. |
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08/01/2013 04:51:06 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
...The biggest challenge for me will be to set up my Canon printer because the book only refers to Epson printers. |
These guys might be useful once you want to start testing. They make stepped-density strips that are perfect for adjusting exposure for contact printing. If I were setting up a printer, I'd produce known gray-level patches using my test profile and make contact prints alongside a test strip. I'd then know how I'd have to adjust to get the intended results.
Originally posted by Spork99:
I'm pretty sure a very nice setup capable of 16"x20" prints could be established for less than $1000 assuming that you build your own UV light source and already have a printer. |
I think that's probably a good estimate. Not inexpensive to get going, that's for sure! |
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