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06/23/2013 02:51:21 PM · #1
From the advanced editing ruleset:
You may apply filters, effects, dodge & burn, and other tools to all or part of your entry, but NO new shapes or features may be created in the process.

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I can't seem to find a consensus on what, exactly, a feature is defined as.

Here's a list of examples of what I would like to know about:

1. Darkening a car window so that the tinting looks almost black (but without losing the detail)
2. Changing the color of someone's eyes through the use of a mask and color adjustment level
3. Adding light in a window by coloring it yellow/orange and lightening up the window area (pre existing area only, no blurred area of light around the window)

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To further complicate the matter - would it matter if it was done via HDR to lighten/darken #1 and #3, instead of dodging/burning?

I've looked through the forums, and only found one discussion, that was never actually resolved. (plus it's so old the image in question was edited by Joey Lawrence / and there is a blur, which I would not want to do, as I think that does ride the line too closely to 'new feature')..

So, anyone? Please?
06/23/2013 02:54:57 PM · #2
Should all be fine in Advanced and Expert - not in Basic editing.
06/23/2013 03:05:50 PM · #3
Generally speaking, features are "things" that didn't exist in the original capture: creating clouds, lens flare, lighting an unlit bulb, putting a rainbow in the sky, etc. Changing color is allowed "within the lines" (you could make a frog pink, but not half pink and half purple) and exposure adjustments are allowed, however you can't use ANY tool to create a new feature as described above or obscure something visually significant in the original (removing a detailed background, coloring a strong element to match the background so it disappears, etc.).
06/23/2013 03:20:30 PM · #4
Originally posted by scalvert:

Generally speaking, features are "things" that didn't exist in the original capture: creating clouds, lens flare, lighting an unlit bulb, putting a rainbow in the sky, etc. Changing color is allowed "within the lines" (you could make a frog pink, but not half pink and half purple) and exposure adjustments are allowed, however you can't use ANY tool to create a new feature as described above or obscure something visually significant in the original (removing a detailed background, coloring a strong element to match the background so it disappears, etc.).


Ok, let's focus in on the "lighting an unlit bulb"

At what point is this not ok? And why?

Looking at this image -

Is this only a problem because of the halo of light that extends beyond the bulb? What if Joey had only colored inside of the bulb? (yes I know that would look crappy, but just play along with the hypothetical situation)
06/23/2013 03:30:57 PM · #5
Originally posted by Cory:

At what point is this not ok? And why?

It's not OK at the point where an unlit bulb becomes lit because that would be a new feature not present in the original. Change the bulb to unlit yellow or green, fine. Retouch the bulb to make it look lit, insta-DQ.... because you're not just changing the color at that point– you're trying to create a new feature.
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