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05/06/2004 06:55:00 PM · #1 |
what to do before I become DQed!! I started another thread on this matter not too long ago. Someone said to submit the actual RAW and that you should have some program to read it. Was this info wrong? I was just asked to submit another RAW image.
This is from the e-mail I received this time
Please upload the original RAW (.ate) file for this image and not a different image. If possible, a TIFF or JPEG of the original (along with the appropriate EXIF values) would be preferred.
This is too vague for me. What exactly do you want. If it needs to be discussed privately, please e-mail me at nickb@bbhc.org.
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05/06/2004 06:56:18 PM · #2 |
This is the thread from before.
Other Thread |
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05/06/2004 06:58:12 PM · #3 |
put the original file on your computer.
attach it to the verification request.
send via the request page.
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05/06/2004 07:00:12 PM · #4 |
I already uploaded the Raw file once and I am assuming that they cannot read the file because they don't have the software. |
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05/06/2004 07:01:33 PM · #5 |
We can read the RAW file.
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05/06/2004 07:04:57 PM · #6 |
It will take an hour to view your photo on my slow computer, but the note that I see on the 'proof' that you submitted, was that the proof did not match your submission. Make sure you submit the original photo that you used for your submission and resubmit please. ~Heather~
Message edited by author 2004-05-06 19:05:34. |
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05/06/2004 07:05:12 PM · #7 |
Did you look at the other thread. I use a digital back and the only way to view the RAW image is with the software for the back. I sent in this RAW File as instructed because someone else from SC said they would be able to read it, and now they are asking me to submit again. Is there any way to talk to whoever keeps asking me to resubmit the original so that I may be able to find out what problems they are having with the files I have already sent? |
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05/06/2004 07:07:07 PM · #8 |
hbunch, Were you able to open the image I submitted because it is the RAW image of the one I submitted. It was rotated and cropped pretty tight. |
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05/06/2004 07:08:05 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by G4Ds: hbunch, Were you able to open the image I submitted because it is the RAW image of the one I submitted. It was rotated and cropped pretty tight. |
I was not able to view it cause of the time it takes to load on my computer. However, it is viewable. Just need the right original, that's all. |
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05/06/2004 07:08:37 PM · #10 |
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05/06/2004 07:10:08 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by G4Ds: But it was the original. |
Ok, I'm going to go through the long process of loading this image so I can see it for myself. Give me an hour, and I'll get back with you. |
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05/06/2004 07:10:34 PM · #12 |
Ok, Maybe it wasn't, OR better yet I will just say it wasn't. I will try to upload again. I need to head for home now so I won't be able to reply until tomorrow. I hope this will not be too late. |
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05/06/2004 07:11:55 PM · #13 |
hbunch, please do not waste the time to try to upload again, I am probably wrong, I will just submit again. Please write back if you get this before you try again. |
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05/06/2004 07:12:11 PM · #14 |
For future reference, it can take us days to review a DQ request and proof, so if you don't get an immediate response, don't panic. We do have a lot of these to review. 53 minutes left...and counting. |
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05/06/2004 07:13:36 PM · #15 |
ok, got the message. Stopped the loading, and I will try with the newly submitted image when you get it in. |
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05/06/2004 07:14:30 PM · #16 |
Thanks, and sorry for being such a pain. I just don't want to get DQed.
Sorry and thanks again for your help. |
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05/06/2004 07:37:00 PM · #17 |
OK, looks like I need to jump in - the RAW (.ate) image you submitted was that of a green jug pouring, which definitely does not match your submission, hence we rerequested that you upload the original. However, if you can upload a TIFF or JPEG version of the original (created from the original RAW file) which has valid EXIF from the original, then we will accept that also.
EDIT: Got the right original this time, thanks.
Message edited by author 2004-05-06 19:42:52.
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05/06/2004 07:57:32 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Manic: However, if you can upload a TIFF or JPEG version of the original (created from the original RAW file) which has valid EXIF from the original, then we will accept that also.
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Not relevant to this particular case but .....
I thought it HAD to be the original RAW if one existed, or an original JPG if the shot was taken in that format.
I submitted a file for verification a while ago as I was going away on vacation and did the JPG version, but was asked to submit it again as RAW.
So, the question is ..... how in future can I get from RAW to JPG but in a way that it is obviously the unedited file? The way I did it was import the RAW to PS then save as a JPG. I assume I could have altered things that way so it was not allowed (fair enough) but how would I legally get from one format for the other ... any idea Manic (or anyone)?
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05/07/2004 12:46:37 AM · #19 |
Originally posted by Natator: Originally posted by Manic: However, if you can upload a TIFF or JPEG version of the original (created from the original RAW file) which has valid EXIF from the original, then we will accept that also.
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Not relevant to this particular case but .....
I thought it HAD to be the original RAW if one existed, or an original JPG if the shot was taken in that format.
I submitted a file for verification a while ago as I was going away on vacation and did the JPG version, but was asked to submit it again as RAW.
So, the question is ..... how in future can I get from RAW to JPG but in a way that it is obviously the unedited file? The way I did it was import the RAW to PS then save as a JPG. I assume I could have altered things that way so it was not allowed (fair enough) but how would I legally get from one format for the other ... any idea Manic (or anyone)? |
Sord of my thoughts too, I have been uploading all images to my kodak program and it changes everything then i use PS to save them for load and I know I have viewed it before and now I am blind and cant find the exif anywhere.... My husband and i share a pc and hes got hp camera and we load them to kodak and kodak switches them over,, Help I must be going crazy wheres all the data?
Message edited by author 2004-05-07 00:48:33.
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05/07/2004 09:34:09 AM · #20 |
Originally posted by Natator: I submitted a file for verification a while ago as I was going away on vacation and did the JPG version, but was asked to submit it again as RAW. |
I don't remember this particular case, but did you submit:
1) the JPEG that is automatically embedded in 10D raw files?
or
2) use a raw converter to generate a JPEG?
Extracting the embedded JPEG (the first case) is valid, since it is the JPEG "as the camera recorded it", without any adjustments done by the raw converter. Extracting the embedded JPEG is entirely different (and practically instantaneous) than "developing" a JPEG from a raw file using a program like Capture One DSLR.
Creating a JPEG from the RAW using a raw conversion tool would not necessarily be appropriate, since the EXIF data may be modified by the raw conversion tool. |
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05/07/2004 10:33:02 AM · #21 |
When running an image thru PS, PS will add to the EXIF info that is has been run through photoshop. It does not say what (if anything)was done to the image. So saving or converting from RAW to anything in PS will leave a PS 'footprint' and therfore cannot be verified as an original un-edited image.
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05/07/2004 11:00:08 AM · #22 |
Originally posted by bestagents: When running an image thru PS, PS will add to the EXIF info that is has been run through photoshop. It does not say what (if anything)was done to the image. So saving or converting from RAW to anything in PS will leave a PS 'footprint' and therfore cannot be verified as an original un-edited image. |
Are you sure on this Chris? |
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05/07/2004 11:37:23 AM · #23 |
Manic, I apologize again from my quick and panicked reaction. I just did not want to get DQed and looked at the wrong image from the challenge before and must of found that raw file. Sorry again to all, I will try to keep my head on straight next time:) |
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05/07/2004 12:18:40 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by justine: Originally posted by bestagents: When running an image thru PS, PS will add to the EXIF info that is has been run through photoshop. It does not say what (if anything)was done to the image. So saving or converting from RAW to anything in PS will leave a PS 'footprint' and therfore cannot be verified as an original un-edited image. |
Are you sure on this Chris? |
Yep.
7th line down in the EXIF data under 'software'.
before PS = Digital Camera FinePix S602 ZOOM Ver 1.0
after PS (open and save) = Adobe Photoshop 7.0
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