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04/27/2013 07:57:56 PM · #1 |
Being disabled, I can't paint the outside of my house and will hire someone to do it. Good news, is that a tree fell on our house last month and the insurance company gave us a nice budget to paint it. It was a neighbors dead tree that fell, and were not home so nobody got hurt.
I think a lot of members here have great color sense and most likely paint your homes yourself. What brand of paint do you favor? I'm leaning towards Behr as they have a new paint called Marquee, goes for about $45 a gallon. Other neighbor used Bengamin Moore and it looks great, that's more like $65 a gallon.
I'll post a photo of the house later, maybe someone can help me out with colors also.
Thanks in advance,
Frank |
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04/27/2013 08:23:22 PM · #2 |
Here's some colors I've picked out so far
and here is the tree that did the damage
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04/27/2013 08:31:55 PM · #3 |
I think I'd prefer a deep green to what you've chosen for trim. Or a slate blue. Both seem more indigenous to where you live... |
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04/27/2013 09:31:37 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music: I think I'd prefer a deep green to what you've chosen for trim. Or a slate blue. Both seem more indigenous to where you live... |
In any case, keep the red door. Beautiful home Caba. |
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04/27/2013 10:46:59 PM · #5 |
Cheap paint is usually a bad investment. Most of the cost of a decent paint job is is labor. Mobilization, prep, strip, masking, undercoat patch, 2 layers of color coat, cleanup, de-mobilization. That means that the labor cost is between 4 and 6 times the cost of your paint when the cost is the usual $65/ gallon. Check out standard pricing for your area here.
Some crews will blow in, drop some cloths over the bushes pressure wash your house, do a speed mask and spray on one coat of color and be done. It might last a few years, but it will be done at a low price. Others will handscrape and heat strip down to something solid, patch in to get a constant substrate, do a base coat and a double color coat and hand cut all the edges with brushes, ect, ect. If you go the first path, don't worry about the quality of the paint, any paint will outlast the application. If you go the slower path, they will have a paint they like to work with. Since they will stand behind the job, let them chose the brand.
Behr has a great price point, about half the price of most paints. Yet it does pretty well on Consumer Reports ratings. Why this is is a much spoken about mystery in the world of paint. most people who paint for a living go with the motto "I would rather have bare walls than paint with Behr." I find Behr difficult to work with, it feels plasticy, and need modifiers like flotrol to coat well. Behr tends to require more work to get it to look decent, and has a worse reputation in terms of longevity.
The same things go into every can of paint, regardless of brand. This is stuff like resins/adhesives, colorant (the liquid pigment), etc. The thing with more expensive brands is the quality and amount of those ingredients. The difference comes down to the long-term: How long before it fades? How is the water-resistance? If you try to clean it, will you end up with a faded spot? How soon will you need to repaint? Will it chip? Will it crumble? Think of a designer dress versus its knock-off counterpart. They may look exactly the same next to each other, but the knock-off probably has crappier material (which will wear out sooner), thinner thread, cheaper buttons, etc.
I tend to use ICI, mostly because I have a good relationship with the local dealers. They match well and stand behind what they sell me. But I use Fuller O'Brein's high gloss interior because I like it better than ICI's. |
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04/28/2013 01:20:31 AM · #6 |
Thanks Brennan, That's some great advice. |
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04/28/2013 09:32:36 AM · #7 |
In addition to the great advice provided by Brennan, you really need to make sure as to what type of paint is currently on the outside surfaces, oil or acrylics. Mind you, most painting today is probably acrylic, but you might get a very unpleasant surprise if you paint acrylic over oil unless you prime the surface first.
Regarding the interior, I personally would never go with high gloss paints since it has a tendency to show the most minute of flaws on even surfaces. Maybe the quality of home building is much better where Brennan lives.
Definitely go with quality paint and take your time finding a good contractor.
Ray
Message edited by author 2013-04-28 09:35:52. |
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04/28/2013 01:13:11 PM · #8 |
Thanks Ray, Cory and Rob, next week I'll be getting quotes, now I know what to ask. |
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04/28/2013 05:14:21 PM · #9 |
Hi Frank,
Check out this product before you paint. //www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vx3iZBZ2W3k |
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04/28/2013 06:01:25 PM · #10 |
I tend to be wary of and new products particularly those that tell me that I can significantly reduce heating and/or AC related costs.
You might want to read the comments made Here and then decide which way you want to go.
Ray |
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04/28/2013 07:50:13 PM · #11 |
FWIW I see Brennan is also firmly in the anti-Behr world. A friend of mine has been a housepainter for 25 years and will never use Behr. |
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04/29/2013 01:19:27 AM · #12 |
solid color stain rather than paint may be a an alternative. |
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04/29/2013 07:31:03 AM · #13 |
If you hire a painter, they should know what products they like to work with and if you trust them enough to let them paint your house, I'd think you'd trust them enough to know what materials to use.
When I picked a painter to paint my house, I interviewed 10 or more until I found "the guy". He'd been painting houses for 20+ years, he specialized in painting older homes (like mine) with lots of details, had done several in my neighborhood, had references, and a book of photos about 3" thick showing before and after. It was a slam dunk. He cost a bit more, but I've never regretted it. The work was done quickly, neatly and I haven't had any problems.
One of my co-workers cheaped out on getting his house painted and a couple of years down the road, the paint was literally falling off of his house...turns out that the bargain painter he'd found had used interior paint on the outside of his house. By the time my friend discovered this, the guy was long gone.
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04/29/2013 12:57:49 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
I tend to be wary of and new products particularly those that tell me that I can significantly reduce heating and/or AC related costs.
You might want to read the comments made Here and then decide which way you want to go.
Ray |
Yes, well this is not a new product and you can find bad reports on all products on the internet.
btw...I put aluminum solar barrier in my attic and lowered my cooling bill about 40%...been there 4 years now. I don't see why this reflective coating wouldn't have a simular result in lowering your bill some.
Message edited by author 2013-04-29 13:57:26. |
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04/29/2013 06:04:03 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by David Ey: Originally posted by RayEthier:
I tend to be wary of and new products particularly those that tell me that I can significantly reduce heating and/or AC related costs.
You might want to read the comments made Here and then decide which way you want to go.
Ray |
Yes, well this is not a new product and you can find bad reports on all products on the internet.
btw...I put aluminum solar barrier in my attic and lowered my cooling bill about 40%...been there 4 years now. I don't see why this reflective coating wouldn't have a simular result in lowering your bill some. |
No disputing what you are saying about finding bad reports on all products on the internet, but if indeed savings of 40% could be had, don't you think that government agencies and the private sector would make some very strong representations that everyone should do this... think of the savings.
I also have no doubt that you personally might have saved 40% by installing solar barriers, but that doesn't tell me squat relative to what you had before. I regularly visit several of the warmer states in the USA and have no problems whatsoever finding homes that have no insulation, solar barriers, solar panels and a host of other things that can save one serious money, and I am certain that by installing some of these significant savings could be made.
I normally want to get as much information as possible on a product, look at the costs involved, the possible savings the be made and following an in-depth cost analysis decide which way I want to go... and that is what I tried to suggest in my response to the OP.
I also tend to believe that if somethings sounds too good to be true... there is a definite reason for that.
Have a great day :O)
Ray |
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04/29/2013 06:18:52 PM · #16 |
The best brand of paint is any paint that I don't have to use...... However sherwin williams is pretty good.
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05/13/2013 07:52:45 PM · #17 |
well, what did you choose? |
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