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03/13/2013 03:24:28 PM · #1 |
Jorge Mario Bergoglio of Argentina, a man of the people, the first Pope from the new world, has been elected. Might this represent a turning point for the Catholic Church?
ETA: And how wonderful that he is the first Pope to choose the name "Francis" for himself, for Francis of Assisi was, himself, a humble man of the people, a man of no pretension and no frills.
Message edited by author 2013-03-13 15:28:05. |
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03/13/2013 03:26:50 PM · #2 |
| Well, crap. I had a week from tomorrow in the office pool. |
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03/13/2013 03:29:19 PM · #3 |
| Looks like Argentina rules the world. First a pope, and soon a queen :) |
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03/13/2013 03:39:39 PM · #4 |
Isnt he the 1st non-european pope as well
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03/13/2013 03:40:41 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by hajeka:
Looks like Argentina rules the world. First a pope, and soon a queen :) |
I didn't think argentina had a queen
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03/13/2013 03:41:26 PM · #6 |
I pray the new pope guides the Catholic Church along the path of a gentle orthodoxy.
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03/13/2013 03:43:19 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Originally posted by hajeka:
Looks like Argentina rules the world. First a pope, and soon a queen :) |
I didn't think argentina had a queen |
But the Netherlands do, very soon and a nice one! |
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03/13/2013 03:50:00 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by hajeka:
Looks like Argentina rules the world. First a pope, and soon a queen :) |
How progressive. Coming up and out in the church. |
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03/13/2013 04:01:18 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Isnt he the 1st non-european pope as well |
True :-) |
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03/13/2013 04:11:13 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by skewsme:
Originally posted by hajeka:
Looks like Argentina rules the world. First a pope, and soon a queen :) |
How progressive. Coming up and out in the church. |
Not at all, just taking advantage of the wardrobe to come. |
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03/13/2013 04:28:19 PM · #11 |
wll congrats to pope francis
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03/13/2013 04:54:05 PM · #12 |
I had some habemus papam last night at the indian restaurant, finished with a dish of Gulab Jamun.
but seriously, if the fancy red Prada shoes fit... |
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03/13/2013 05:06:02 PM · #13 |
| Not Catholic, not really religious, but wishing all the best for Pope Francis. |
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03/13/2013 05:35:18 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I pray the new pope guides the Catholic Church along the path of a gentle orthodoxy. |
From what I've heard he's considered a "staunch religious conservative" -- he came in second in the last election. I wouldn't expect any "progressive" change, other than perhaps a more diligent application of the churchly duty to feed, house, and clothe the poor. Maybe he can wash a beggar's feet twice a year ... I suppose we can all pray he has a road to Damascus moment and brings the Church forward a few centuries ... |
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03/13/2013 05:39:09 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... I suppose we can all pray he has a road to Damascus moment and brings the Church forward a few centuries ... |
LOL... you'd *have* to pray, a miracle is the only hope of that. |
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03/13/2013 06:22:50 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
From what I've heard he's considered a "staunch religious conservative" -- he came in second in the last election. |
Given that the pool of Cardinals were all appointed by the last 2 popes who were quite conservative, all the possible candidates were conservative. That said from the pool of candidates I have heard he is not in the conservative wing of that conservative group.
Francis I Espouses Orthodoxy On Spiritual Matters While Advocating Social Justice For Poor
First Pope named Francis, first non-European, first Jesuit. He has done well patching up the mess after the church's support of the dictatorships in Argentina came home to roost, perhaps he can start to clean up the fiscal mess in the Papacy, not to mention the sex scandals in the clergy. |
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03/13/2013 06:28:37 PM · #17 |
| First non European pope in 1000 years aneay |
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03/13/2013 06:30:02 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
I pray the new pope guides the Catholic Church along the path of a gentle orthodoxy. |
From what I've heard he's considered a "staunch religious conservative" -- he came in second in the last election. I wouldn't expect any "progressive" change, other than perhaps a more diligent application of the churchly duty to feed, house, and clothe the poor. Maybe he can wash a beggar's feet twice a year ... I suppose we can all pray he has a road to Damascus moment and brings the Church forward a few centuries ... |
Amen brother. |
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03/13/2013 06:33:50 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... I suppose we can all pray he has a road to Damascus moment and brings the Church forward a few centuries ... |
LOL... you'd *have* to pray, a miracle is the only hope of that. |
Hallelujah! lol.
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Seriously, my expectations are so low as to be almost non-existent - but if he can at least follow through on the commitment to the poor I will have a modicum of respect for him.
Not that I really think we can expect much significant change - the RCC is such a big behemoth of an entity any directional change, even relatively rapid change, will occur at a glacial rate.
What I do find interesting is the implicit admission, via the choice of name, that the church is in a bad place, and needs saving from the state it is currently in. Not that it wasn't obvious to everyone, but the admission is, to me, stunning and unexpected - remember this is the organization who's effective policy seems to have been "Pretend it didn't happen"..
Message edited by author 2013-03-13 18:37:10. |
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03/13/2013 06:34:26 PM · #20 |
I'm disappointed in his glasses. I want a Pope that wears glasses like Scott Summers, AKA: Cyclops from the X-Men. What's the point in a Pope that doesn't have high energy optic blasts constantly threatening to erupt from his eyes that he has to battle with daily to keep under control?
Or at least he could get something classically papal like Elton Johns. |
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03/13/2013 06:40:50 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by mrchhas:
First non European pope in 1000 years aneay |
Please guys... save us from Tv invaded by news of the new Pope. It's like it doesn't matter that we've just had elections here in Italy (and no one is able to know who won...) |
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03/13/2013 06:45:22 PM · #22 |
| It doesn't matter!! We've been without a government for over a month and everything's fine. And by fine, I mean as crappy as before. |
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03/13/2013 06:47:56 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by mrchhas:
And by fine, I mean as crappy as before. |
That's the point - I even thought that behind that window there was Berlusconi. I'm quite sure that being Pope is his unconfessed dream! |
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03/13/2013 07:10:41 PM · #24 |
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03/13/2013 07:20:04 PM · #25 |
Yup. Ring in the new Pope, same as the old Pope. Still it's interesting that he's the first non-european Pope from a country that has FULL marriage equality and LGBT civil rights. He wasn't a fan of that though. He was very angry. He's a bit more progressive on condoms i guess though. They can help to stop the spread of disease apparently. |
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