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02/28/2013 09:35:03 PM · #1 |
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02/28/2013 09:39:37 PM · #2 |
| im not allowed to give my opinion on this topic. |
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02/28/2013 10:04:04 PM · #3 |
| Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
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02/28/2013 10:10:38 PM · #4 |
| I think it has more to do with appreciating the difficulty of producing a truly great, expertly edited image, and the amount of time and ingenuity that goes into it. |
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02/28/2013 10:12:33 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
Ding Ding Ding |
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02/28/2013 10:37:14 PM · #6 |
Wow factor.
Message edited by author 2013-02-28 22:37:36.
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02/28/2013 10:38:53 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
I think it has more to do with appreciating the difficulty of producing a truly great, expertly edited image, and the amount of time and ingenuity that goes into it. |
Tangy, you know I adore you, but I think you're just totally wrong here. No-one gives a damn how hard it was, or what the technical aspects are (ok, maybe a FEW folks do care, but they really are rare, especially because it takes great skill to be able to quickly deconstruct a shot in those terms)... All that the voters care about is the first impact and the gloss, as stated by Robert above.
Or, at least, that's my opinion. |
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02/28/2013 10:40:11 PM · #8 |
| I don't look at the expert side of it at all, I look at the content of the image, how does it impact me emotionally! I have to say most of the expert images that win, want to make me cry, instead of sigh! |
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02/28/2013 10:42:44 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by tanguera:
I think it has more to do with appreciating the difficulty of producing a truly great, expertly edited image, and the amount of time and ingenuity that goes into it. |
I respectfully disagree Johanna. And go for the Bear's musing |
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02/28/2013 10:43:03 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
Absolutely, and some |
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02/28/2013 10:43:34 PM · #11 |
That's a pretty significant score differential for 'gloss'... just makes me wonder if those images are truly worth the overly inflated scores they normally receive... especially when you go back and look at them later on...
OK, bring on the bonfires and pitchforks... |
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02/28/2013 10:45:30 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by pamb:
That's a pretty significant score differential for 'gloss'... just makes me wonder if those images are truly worth the overly inflated scores they normally receive... especially when you go back and look at them later on...
OK, bring on the bonfires and pitchforks... |
No most of them don't deserve those score, IMHO!
But then again who am I!!! |
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02/28/2013 10:48:11 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
and yes I 2nd this as well! |
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02/28/2013 11:18:21 PM · #14 |
I think it is cus people like pretty pictures. If we are all honest, which I doubt many people will be. Expert editing is about manipulation. It is not about photography any more, YES the photos ARE, but shmoosh 60 photos together you get something like a WOW
Yep get 12 pieces of your body and stick them together to make a photo. Stick Armageddon in the background with 200 pieces of different photos. THIS style is a different and most difficult photo to process, as it has to be made to MAke people believe this is real life. The amount of people that think, do, and set up pictures who can not do this kind of editing, see their dreams and then get slammed with low scores,but they have gone 'old school',,,,,,,,, well........... BUT in saying that, you have to be an EXPERT to be able to convince a person that this is a real picture, and that is what expert people do. They make people believe in what they have produced and people can see it and in their brains's it triggers that
"Yes it is believable" THAT is a true master of their craft.
It is not photography anymore, it is manipulation. And it is fabulous manipulation and it takes a master's to pull it off , as we have all seen. I only dream of being able to do anything remotely as close to this,
BUT you all wish you had the balls to say "This is not a real photograph, , this is a manipulation , a dream, a fantasy" But you won't
SO in the end, it does not really matter, cos no one will speak up. Some will say, do it all in set up, the others will say, stick bits and pieces onto each other until it represents a photo.
It is ALL about the pretty picture in the end!
Message edited by author 2013-02-28 23:24:23. |
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02/28/2013 11:20:08 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Neat:
Originally posted by pamb:
That's a pretty significant score differential for 'gloss'... just makes me wonder if those images are truly worth the overly inflated scores they normally receive... especially when you go back and look at them later on...
OK, bring on the bonfires and pitchforks... |
No most of them don't deserve those score, IMHO!
But then again who am I!!! |
Hell, it's scary how often I've been agreeing with you lately. |
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02/28/2013 11:27:10 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by tanguera:
I think it has more to do with appreciating the difficulty of producing a truly great, expertly edited image, and the amount of time and ingenuity that goes into it. |
Tangy, you know I adore you, but I think you're just totally wrong here. No-one gives a damn how hard it was, or what the technical aspects are (ok, maybe a FEW folks do care, but they really are rare, especially because it takes great skill to be able to quickly deconstruct a shot in those terms)... All that the voters care about is the first impact and the gloss, as stated by Robert above.
Or, at least, that's my opinion. |
I can't believe Cory is right. I need to rethink this. ;) |
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02/28/2013 11:31:38 PM · #17 |
| OMG I'm on Cory's side here :-) I'm usualy astonished at the scores some of these pictures get. |
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02/28/2013 11:37:36 PM · #18 |
| This is DPC's steroid era. |
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02/28/2013 11:38:24 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by Neat:
Originally posted by pamb:
That's a pretty significant score differential for 'gloss'... just makes me wonder if those images are truly worth the overly inflated scores they normally receive... especially when you go back and look at them later on...
OK, bring on the bonfires and pitchforks... |
No most of them don't deserve those score, IMHO!
But then again who am I!!! |
Hell, it's scary how often I've been agreeing with you lately. |
It's scarey for me too ;-------------)
Edited bc I spelt too wrong :0
Message edited by author 2013-02-28 23:39:11. |
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02/28/2013 11:39:18 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
I think this is quite insulting to gyaban and samanthaT and others who put an incredible amount of intelligence, creativity, skill and hard work into their challenge entries. I think this thread is about jealousy rather than anything of substance. This is typical DPC with the same people stating the same opinions. Sad, and the main reason why DPC is in such decline. Wake up, old timers! The Expert Editing challenges are the only ones that still keep the best talent here! |
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02/28/2013 11:42:37 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
I think this is quite insulting to gyaban and samanthaT and others who put an incredible amount of intelligence, creativity, skill and hard work into their challenge entries. I think this thread is about jealousy rather than anything of substance. This is typical DPC with the same people stating the same opinions. Sad, and the main reason why DPC is in such decline. Wake up, old timers! The Expert Editing challenges are the only ones that still keep the best talent here! |
that's not entirely true, I liked this pic of Sam's  bc it was absurd and not corny, I tend to frown on the corny ones, but then again I've probably done a few since I've been here to, and then I frown at them! |
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02/28/2013 11:51:19 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
I think this is quite insulting to gyaban and samanthaT and others who put an incredible amount of intelligence, creativity, skill and hard work into their challenge entries. I think this thread is about jealousy rather than anything of substance. This is typical DPC with the same people stating the same opinions. Sad, and the main reason why DPC is in such decline. Wake up, old timers! The Expert Editing challenges are the only ones that still keep the best talent here! |
How is crediting someone with having an advanced skill set, dogged determination and the ability to achieve perfection an insult? |
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02/28/2013 11:54:33 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
I think this is quite insulting to gyaban and samanthaT and others who put an incredible amount of intelligence, creativity, skill and hard work into their challenge entries. I think this thread is about jealousy rather than anything of substance. This is typical DPC with the same people stating the same opinions. Sad, and the main reason why DPC is in such decline. Wake up, old timers! The Expert Editing challenges are the only ones that still keep the best talent here! |
This thread was about high scores
Photography is not defined by hard work
Next fight should be: define pretty pictures
Lighten up all. We don't throw rotten eggs, we just talk before midnight |
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02/28/2013 11:58:34 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by MNet:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Because DPC *tends* to reward surface perfection, i.e. very graphic images with a high gloss, and we have some expert editors in here that have the skill-set and are willing to invest the time required to attain that sort of perfection. |
I think this is quite insulting to gyaban and samanthaT and others who put an incredible amount of intelligence, creativity, skill and hard work into their challenge entries. I think this thread is about jealousy rather than anything of substance. This is typical DPC with the same people stating the same opinions. Sad, and the main reason why DPC is in such decline. Wake up, old timers! The Expert Editing challenges are the only ones that still keep the best talent here! |
WOW,,,,,, why in the world would you think that anyone is coming up with gyban or samanthaT's name. What about the other 47 people that where recently in the expert challenge, and the many MANY people that have been in the Expert Challenges before them, myself and many many others.
Wait, do they not count or do any of us count. WHY would you pull their names out, seem's the only person pointing fingers right now would be you. This was a civil conversation before you started doing your thing again and naming names, that have no relevance to this conversation.
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02/28/2013 11:58:58 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by tanguera:
I think it has more to do with appreciating the difficulty of producing a truly great, expertly edited image, and the amount of time and ingenuity that goes into it. |
Tangy, you know I adore you, but I think you're just totally wrong here. No-one gives a damn how hard it was, or what the technical aspects are (ok, maybe a FEW folks do care, but they really are rare, especially because it takes great skill to be able to quickly deconstruct a shot in those terms)... All that the voters care about is the first impact and the gloss, as stated by Robert above.
Or, at least, that's my opinion. |
I can't believe Cory is right. I need to rethink this. ;) |
Heck, Cory's AGREEING with me, so you're ALL on MY side if that feels more normal? Jejeje... |
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