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01/31/2013 03:47:39 PM · #29

Originally posted by tnun:

It is what it is because of usage. Are we ready for the future?

NO, I'm not ready to give up yet.

I do try to see language as a living, evolving thing, but that doesn't mean we should allow it to disintegrate all of a sudden, in the space of a few years. I do not want to communicate via single letters only, never knowing for sure if I am guessing the correct intended usage for each one. To some, "ur" seems to mean "you are", to me they are just two letters that make no sense in English as a word.

Yes, I can see some reason to be brief while texting, but why does that gobbledeegook have to be welcomed everywhere else, as well? If we keep this up, it won't be too long before written communication will be practically impossible. I wonder if the next step of the "future" will then be going back to grunts, growls and hisses instead of coherent speech?

English isn't my mother tongue, yet I managed to come to grips with its crazy exceptions. If I can do it, others can, too.

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01/31/2013 04:28:44 PM · #30

Originally posted by Beetle:

... grunts, growls and hisses...

That's my typical Friday night.

Kelli

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01/31/2013 04:33:50 PM · #31

//theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling

Message edited by author 2013-01-31 16:34:10.

GeneralE

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01/31/2013 05:35:24 PM · #32

For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2 might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the same konsonant, wile Year 3 might well abolish "y" replasing it with "i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g
j" anomali wonse and for all.

Jenerally, then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12 or so modifaiing vowlz and the rimeining voist and unvoist konsonants. Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh", and "th" rispektivli.

Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iers ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.

--Mark Twain (1835 - 1910), "A Plan for the Improvement of English Spelling"

RayEthier

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01/31/2013 05:47:55 PM · #33

Originally posted by tnun:

English is such a cruel language: rules for spelling, pronunciation, word formation, grammar, ...

If you find English cruel, try French, German and a few others that have rules galore. :O)

Ray

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01/31/2013 06:26:49 PM · #34

Originally posted by Kelli:

//theoatmeal.com/comics/misspelling

Awesome! I'll bookmark that one.

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01/31/2013 06:37:20 PM · #35

Originally posted by nygold:

Do you have any links for improving social skills?

ROFL!!!!!!!!!!!

That right there is one hell of a Zinger!

tnun

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01/31/2013 07:22:59 PM · #36

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by tnun:
English is such a cruel language: rules for spelling, pronunciation, word formation, grammar, ...

If you find English cruel, try French, German and a few others that have rules galore. :O)

Ray

English has MORE exceptions. As well, the rules were superimposed upon it, based on the Latin model. Le Francais, on the other hand IS one of the Romance languages and German is really quite logical, nicht? But Spanish is the most straightforward.

I do not so much deplore errors of spelling and grammar so much as I am distressed by a general lack of coherence that goes way beyond the txtng of yng ppl. Just recently a local parent circulated a petition to return our school system to the 5 day week. He wrote:

"The corner stone of a strong school and solid citizens in a democratic society is to be literate and numerate. Every student should develop their academic, physical, social and cultural identity each and every day."

Sometimes I wish I hadn't given up smoking.

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01/31/2013 07:57:26 PM · #37

When I first started following this thread early today, it was with a smile.
My open book for wake-up reading happened to be The Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson (1990 edition) and the chapter? Spelling.
One tiny quote by Bryson on the subject: "Unluckily for us, English spellings were becoming fixed just at the time when the language was undergoing one of those great phonetic seizures that periodically unsettle any tongue. The result is that we have today in English a body of spellings that, for the most part, faithfully reflect the pronunciations of the people living 400 years ago...."

Indeed, as

Beetle says, language is ever evolving. Even as we try to understand the latest evolution, we might well remember that in years past, people were railing against perceived spelling, usage and grammar "mistakes" ever since Gutenberg and his friends invented the printed word.

And,

tnun? Give that poor, English deprived correspondent an "E" for effort. Along with the "F" for Spelling, Usage and Grammar. And take an extra puff on that virtual cigarette for me.

GeneralE

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01/31/2013 08:14:57 PM · #38

Originally posted by sfalice:

Which is why you can pronounce G-H-O-T-I as "fish" ...

hahn23

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01/31/2013 08:29:07 PM · #39

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by sfalice:
When I first started following this thread early today, it was with a smile.
My open book for wake-up reading happened to be The Mother Tongue by Bill Bryson (1990 edition) and the chapter? Spelling.
One tiny quote by Bryson on the subject: "Unluckily for us, English spellings were becoming fixed just at the time when the language was undergoing one of those great phonetic seizures that periodically unsettle any tongue. The result is that we have today in English a body of spellings that, for the most part, faithfully reflect the pronunciations of the people living 400 years ago...."

Which is why you can pronounce G-H-O-T-I as "fish" ...

Had to research that one. Very cool.

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01/31/2013 09:19:19 PM · #40

my grammar and spelling are actually very good.

i just cant type worth a shit.

That's the truth, which is why i don't use caps. if i didn't have spell check to quickly fix words, you'd see a lot more spelling errors too.

BrennanOB

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01/31/2013 11:33:05 PM · #41

As a dyslexic I find my spell checker essential and this poem a great comfort.

Spell Checker

I halve a spelling checker,
It came with my pea see.
It plainly marks four my revue
Mistakes I dew knot sea.

Eye strike a key and type a word
And weight four it two say
Weather eye am wrong oar write
It shows me strait aweigh.

As soon as a mist ache is maid
It nose bee fore two long
And eye can put the era rite
Its rarely ever wrong.

I've scent this massage threw it,
And I'm shore your pleased too no
Its letter prefect in every weigh;
My checker tolled me sew.

Beetle

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02/01/2013 01:04:30 AM · #42

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

As a dyslexic I find my spell checker essential and this poem a great comfort.

[i]Spell Checker

I found it interesting that reading the mixed up letters (Aoccdrnig to rseerach at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are....) is way easier than understanding that poem.

I did, however, enjoy the challenge!!!!

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02/01/2013 05:17:41 AM · #43

Originally posted by mike_311:

my grammar and spelling are actually very good.

i just cant type worth a shit.

Me too. I never really grasped the concept of typing with more than one finger on one hand at a time and I still have to look at the keys. My co-workers find it quite amusing. I have to admit sometimes I do too when I finally look up to see what jibberish I have been typing

02/01/2013 06:04:49 AM · #44

i can type with multiple fingers (but not correctly) so i just look at the keyboard and start typing. then I'll look up and read and i realize the gibberish i wrote (missing words, dyslexia, etc) fix it and hit post. then realize that i still had an error(s) so i need to go and edit my post.

its highly efficient.

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02/01/2013 06:11:53 AM · #45

Originally posted by Beetle:

Originally posted by BrennanOB:
As a dyslexic I find my spell checker essential and this poem a great comfort.

[i]Spell Checker

I found it interesting that reading the mixed up letters (Aoccdrnig to rseerach at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are....) is way easier than understanding that poem.

I did, however, enjoy the challenge!!!!

actually it does, the letters need to be in the relative locations in the correct spelling. if i really screw up the spelling its very difficult to understand, how is this supposed to read?

roochnreies taht lvie in aicrfa are rneitlouy hteuned by phaceours

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02/01/2013 06:29:23 AM · #46

Originally posted by mike_311:

roochnreies taht lvie in aicrfa are rneitlouy hteuned by phaceours

something that live in africa are something.....

So what's the rule for mixing the letters? - They can only be moved a certain number of positions, or they have to remain within the syllable?

pamb

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02/01/2013 06:30:17 AM · #47

Originally posted by JH:

Originally posted by mike_311:
roochnreies taht lvie in aicrfa are rneitlouy hteuned by phaceours

something that live in africa are something.....

So what's the rule for mixing the letters? - They can only be moved a certain number of positions, or they have to remain within the syllable?

something that live in africa are routinely.....

spiritualspatula

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02/01/2013 06:35:45 AM · #48

Rhinoceros that live in Africa are routinely hunted by poachers

I think, anyway. Some extra letters.

ETA: but the point is proven. poachers took me way longer for some reason.

Message edited by author 2013-02-01 06:37:03.