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12/11/2012 09:40:53 AM · #1 |
Found this article this morning in news... Sad. Be very mindful of your surroundings when taking pictures in dangerous places.
Photography Teacher Killed by Train |
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12/11/2012 10:14:21 AM · #2 |
That's awful!
It's so easy to get wrapped up in what's in front of the camera that one forgets everything else. We really need to be aware of our surroundings all the time.
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12/11/2012 10:18:58 AM · #3 |
even if the train conductor blew the whistle it was too late. you have no idea how fast those trains move and how fast they come upon you. Whenever ever we do work walking or photographing structures over tracks we always have a spotter or two depending on the sight distance.
Message edited by author 2012-12-11 16:04:27. |
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12/11/2012 10:26:19 AM · #4 |
Totally agree Mike.
When brakes are applied , those trains can sometimes travel another mile before coming to a complete stop due to the amount of weight and momentum behind it with all that freight. So there is no way for a train of that size to stop on a dime.
Lesson in all this.. be aware at all times. Check all possible pitfalls when doing photos on a railroad.. even the most mundane like, hazards than can cause you to trip and fall well ahead of a train coming.
Message edited by author 2012-12-11 10:26:43. |
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12/11/2012 10:47:23 AM · #5 |
I love to shoot in places that are high risk, and my one piece of advice?
Keep your head on a swivel. Don't look through the viewfinder for more than a few seconds without popping your head up and taking a good assessment of your situation.
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12/11/2012 10:54:43 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by Cory:
I love to shoot in places that are high risk, and my one piece of advice?
Keep your head on a swivel. Don't look through the viewfinder for more than a few seconds without popping your head up and taking a good assessment of your situation. |
Yeah, but aren't you more concerned about ducking flying bullets where you go?! :)
I agree with what you're saying - I know from shooting some sports that it's easy to end up as part of the action if you're not paying attention. |
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12/11/2012 11:38:07 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
That's awful!
It's so easy to get wrapped up in what's in front of the camera that one forgets everything else. We really need to be aware of our surroundings all the time. |
Especially shooting wild life! |
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12/11/2012 11:39:32 AM · #8 |
| Out of interest, what sort of newspaper is the NY Daily News anyway? - Some of these other news stories on that site are... questionable! |
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12/11/2012 11:56:32 AM · #9 |
I am totally in love with trains, railroads, & their structures......have been for years, and have spent much time photographing them, static as well as in motion.
I don't mean to be cold or anything, but trains are really huge & very noisy. They do *NOT* sneak up on you. You pretty much have to screw up royally to get hit by a train.
I've seen plenty of miscalculations in my day......cars/trucks getting nailed at crossings and whatnot, but one thing remains true. If you take your chances on timing with a train and screw up, you *WILL* die. Why anyone takes *any* chances around them is beyond me.
Though I feel bad for the lady, she did something seriously wrong in her preparation for her photograph.
I want to offer this up as an example of what else was in play in this scenario....
"why on earth was she standing between two tracks long enough to get hit. Get hit â that means she stood there as a conductor saw her standing in deathâs way, had to have blown his horn â multiple times â but there she stood. She wasnât âhitâ by a train â she made a train conductor run her over â probably because she thought her art was worth the risk. What about the very human conductor who her choice not only also put at risk, but irrevocably damaged this manâs life. She did not have that right. Coming from a railroad family, our hearts and prayers go out to the condutor/s who were forced to gruesomely kill a woman toady â for her art. I do not mean to seem cold, but the true tragedy is that the art community will herald this woman as a true artist who died for her craft, when in truth, her actions should, and will be admonished. But that wonât do any good for a train conductor who has to live with what he had to do today because she wanted the âbestâ shot. What a shame for everyone, but this is not art and was not for the sake of art. It was reckless behavior that cost more than it was ever going to be worth. Raise her up, but donât forget the victims she created as you praise her dedication to her art."
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12/11/2012 12:16:23 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I don't mean to be cold or anything, but trains are really huge & very noisy. They do *NOT* sneak up on you. You pretty much have to screw up royally to get hit by a train.
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If someone is focused intently on one huge and noisy train in front of them, it's not difficult to conceive that another large and noisy train could sneak up on them from behind. But to be that single minded in such a dangerous location is foolish.
Message edited by author 2012-12-11 12:18:35. |
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12/11/2012 12:21:49 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by JH:
Out of interest, what sort of newspaper is the NY Daily News anyway? - Some of these other news stories on that site are... questionable! |
Well that's not the only place this is mentioned. Is Petapixel a more reliable source?
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12/11/2012 12:22:06 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
I don't mean to be cold or anything, but trains are really huge & very noisy. They do *NOT* sneak up on you. You pretty much have to screw up royally to get hit by a train.
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If someone is focused intently on one huge and noisy train in front of them, it's not difficult to conceive that another large and noisy train could sneak up on them from behind. But to be that single minded in such a dangerous location is foolish. |
...missed focus... |
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12/11/2012 12:24:05 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
If someone is focused intently on one huge and noisy train in front of them, it's not difficult to conceive that another large and noisy train could sneak up on them from behind. |
That's what I was thinking could have happened. Harder to ignore a train whistle behind you however, if it was indeed sounded. |
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12/11/2012 12:58:05 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Originally posted by JH:
Out of interest, what sort of newspaper is the NY Daily News anyway? - Some of these other news stories on that site are... questionable! |
Well that's not the only place this is mentioned. Is Petapixel a more reliable source? |
I wasn't questioning the story, I was questioning that newspaper - some of the stories there are soooo tabloid. It's like they transcribed some of it directly from Jerry Springer lol |
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12/11/2012 01:04:33 PM · #15 |
i shot a band shoot the other saturday their idea they told me they'd found an abandoned line, these are some of my best friends btw got there its was very apparent from teh bright tracks and no weeds that it was still an active line, and i knew that it was a 5 times a day line for local stell mill, a branch line of the main tracks. i had two other friends position them selves as spotters as far downt eh track as they could see and we hear them then shot it very quickly and only looped the rope not properly tied it,
i was still very nervous looking behind me though, seems like she got casual and paid for it,
IMG_7442 by gilesbert, on Flickr |
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12/11/2012 01:09:51 PM · #16 |
That shot would look *so* much better with this poised behind them! LOL!!!
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12/11/2012 01:12:25 PM · #17 |
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow....
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12/11/2012 01:13:07 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow.... |
Oh......DO elaborate!
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12/11/2012 01:13:17 PM · #19 |
quick and dirty
IMG_7442 by gilesbert, on Flickr |
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12/11/2012 01:15:03 PM · #20 |
That's why I made sure I had a billion people in front of me.
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12/11/2012 01:15:45 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow.... |
who this addressed at?
urfa at least you knew that it was coming at you on the track you were on, she must have been stood near to or on the other tracks....
ive done my rail safety for operating diggers on the railways 5 days course on safety before we even got near the tracks
Message edited by author 2012-12-11 13:18:03. |
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12/11/2012 04:12:50 PM · #22 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow.... |
if you get killed on a train track it was your fault. insensitivity has nothing to do with it. you absolutely can not place blame on anyone else. respect how fast the things can move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFsa3kB5FP8
and my personal favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmOQds-DXXo
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12/11/2012 04:26:55 PM · #23 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Gay marriage....it's really all about money isn't it?
NikonJeb:
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow....
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--NikonJeb:----------------------------------------------------------------------
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow....
Oh......DO elaborate!
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We are lucky to have our very own Scalvert Einstein.
Message edited by author 2012-12-11 16:28:48.
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12/11/2012 04:28:03 PM · #24 |
I remember playing that 2nd one when I was little.....
It was a highway....
I was in the living room....
...and it was a frog.
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by David Ey:
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow.... |
if you get killed on a train track it was your fault. insensitivity has nothing to do with it. you absolutely can not place blame on anyone else. respect how fast the things can move.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFsa3kB5FP8
and my personal favorite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XmOQds-DXXo |
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12/11/2012 04:51:59 PM · #25 |
Originally posted by David Ey:
Originally posted by David Ey:
Gay marriage....it's really all about money isn't it?
NikonJeb:
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow....
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--NikonJeb:----------------------------------------------------------------------
It really shows the depths of your ignorance and insensitivity to make a statement like that.
Just freakin' Wow....
Oh......DO elaborate!
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We are lucky to have our very own Scalvert Einstein. |
Gosh, you really put me in my place, didn't you?
STILL haven't managed to tie it in......I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the post.
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