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11/15/2012 10:05:48 AM · #551

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

New York

And other states didn't get huge checks from the govmnt???

Is NY bitching? Another opinion piece.

11/15/2012 10:09:41 AM · #552

people from New York have started a petition to seceed as well.

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11/15/2012 10:10:24 AM · #553

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Obamacare

This is the way the country is going to head. Higher prices and more people trying to find second jobs.

So, he's adding a surcharge of 5%, to cover the costs, plus cutting employees to all part-time status to avoid the costs?

Seems to me he wins on both ends, what a douchebag.

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11/15/2012 10:11:04 AM · #554

Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Ya know...I know the states will never be able to seceed. It is not exactly illegal but it has to be approved by a large majority. I do hope that this will send a message to washington. A message the there are a bunch of Americans that are fed up with our govmt and our president. Seeing how divided this pres has already made us...I would not be surprised if we ended up having another civil war. This one won't be like the last one though. It would not be North vs South... As the main catalyst of the last one was money...the same would be true. By the way I do hope that it doesnt come down to this. Our country is severely divided....we have a pres that is continuously surrounded by controversy...and tons of people out of work or just losing money. That is my 2 cents

I say LET"EM GO! //abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/11/states-with-most-signatures-to-secede-took-millions-in-federal-money/

eta: But we should put up fences to keep them out once they're gone!

I think Texas gives more than it takes. Taxes Paid vs Federal Benefit Dollars

11/15/2012 10:12:50 AM · #555

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Obamacare

This is the way the country is going to head. Higher prices and more people trying to find second jobs.

So, he's adding a surcharge of 5%, to cover the costs, plus cutting employees to all part-time status to avoid the costs?

Seems to me he wins on both ends, what a douchebag.

Its either that or go out of buisness where everybody loses

11/15/2012 10:26:03 AM · #556

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Originally posted by Cory:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Obamacare

This is the way the country is going to head. Higher prices and more people trying to find second jobs.

So, he's adding a surcharge of 5%, to cover the costs, plus cutting employees to all part-time status to avoid the costs?

Seems to me he wins on both ends, what a douchebag.

Its either that or go out of buisness where everybody loses

Dude. He's charging the customers to make up for the extra cost.
He's then shifting staffing to avoid the extra cost.

So, in effect, he has no additional costs, but he has additional income (quite a bit more in fact, since he can now avoid other costs associated with full time employees). So, he is now making even more money, while customers are paying more, and employees are making less. That's just morally corrupt.

The math isn't hard - one or the other is fine, and ethical. Doing both makes this guy a fricken scumbag.

Message edited by author 2012-11-15 10:32:02.

11/15/2012 10:36:35 AM · #557

Did you see the dollar amount that was going to be added onto the meals @ 5%. Here is the paragraph

At Dennyâ��s restaurants operated by Metz, the average check is $9, he said, meaning the ObamaCare surcharge if implemented would be 45 cents on that bill. At Hurricane Grill & Wings locations, where the average bill is $14.50, the surcharge would total 72 cents

Now it also said that it was going to cost him around $70,000 per restauraunt. He is trying to give employees as may hours as he can and then offset the rest with the surcharge....And I hope that on the recipt it is called the obamacare surcharge

11/15/2012 10:40:24 AM · #558

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

people from New York have started a petition to seceed as well.

My point is half the country is republican and the other half is democratic. Actually people from all 50 states have now signed petitions. None of them are going to do anything other than reinforce the point that we are split down the middle. It's a way to blow off steam. So, I find it quite humorous. If you seriously look at the numbers that have signed nationwide you'll see you don't even have the population of one small city. //dailycaller.com/2012/11/14/white-house-secede-petitions-reach-660000-signatures-50-state-participation/

eta: I found this paragraph particularly entertaining...

Late Tuesday a second group of Texans, this one from Houston, lodged their own White House petition. Secession-minded Texans, they wrote, â��are mentally deficient and [we] do not want them representing us. We would like more education in our state to eradicate their disease.â��

Message edited by author 2012-11-15 10:45:03.

11/15/2012 10:48:25 AM · #559

It's actually 750,000 and that is a pretty large city. I just want this pres to wake up....Quit dividing America and bring us together. He is so arogant and egotistical that won't happen. That is part of the prob we have now. That is a big reason behind all this. He hasnt listened, chances are he wont listen. He wants to do what he wants to do and he won't compromise.

11/15/2012 10:51:57 AM · #560

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Really? Here is 5 pages of compromises... //www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/compromise/

11/15/2012 10:55:59 AM · #561

Its all stuff like
Expand the earned income tax credit

this type of stuff works out to his favor...The EIC allows people that don't pay tax get a tax refund. That is only 1 example and it was on the top of the list

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11/15/2012 11:03:16 AM · #562

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

It's quite a mixed bag actually "Eliminate capital gains taxes for small businesses and start-ups" and these are things that his quite willing to compromise on which means he won't get the results he's looking for. Look, you believe what you want to believe and no amount of facts are going to change your mind. In our lifetimes we all deal with presidents we don't agree with. I despised Bush. I'm not even a big fan of Obama. He's no where near liberal enough for me. So to each his own.

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11/15/2012 11:07:42 AM · #563

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

people from New York have started a petition to seceed as well.

Well, as Republicans used to be fond of saying, "America â�� love it or leave it."

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11/15/2012 11:27:57 AM · #564

I am a very patriotic person. I just hate to see our nation going down the drain..

Ann

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11/15/2012 12:25:41 PM · #565

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

I would ask...Who's actually dividing America? Is it a centrist president who started his first term trying to work with the Republicans, or is it the Fox news watching ideologues who think they'd be better off starting their own banana republic?

GeneralE

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11/15/2012 01:31:10 PM · #566

Originally posted by Ann:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
It's actually 750,000 and that is a pretty large city. I just want this pres to wake up....Quit dividing America and bring us together. He is so arogant and egotistical that won't happen. That is part of the prob we have now. That is a big reason behind all this. He hasnt listened, chances are he wont listen. He wants to do what he wants to do and he won't compromise.

I would ask...Who's actually dividing America? Is it a centrist president who started his first term trying to work with the Republicans, or is it ...

Speaker Boehner who declared on day one that his "Number One Priority" was making Obama a one-term President?

11/15/2012 01:53:40 PM · #567

Originally posted by Ann:

The question is not "Who is dividing America", but rather "What is dividing America".

The answer, of course, is politics. For far too long both parties have only gotten more and more radically polarized. Now we find ourselves at a point where each party tries to cast the candidate of the opposing party as being spawned from the pits of hell.

Who wins the election anyway, and why? Is it because they're really qualified? Or because they are really good guys who will put the good of the nation first? Or do we elect the best liar who is more adept at manipulating the rather gullible average voter?

In short, Plato had it right years ago.

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11/15/2012 03:08:02 PM · #568

Originally posted by Cory:

...In short, Plato had it right years ago.

Are you going to make me search on that? :-(

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11/15/2012 03:12:47 PM · #569

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Cory:
...In short, Plato had it right years ago.

Are you going to make me search on that? :-(

Here ya go, have fun! Plato's "Republic"

11/15/2012 03:34:02 PM · #570

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by Cory:
...In short, Plato had it right years ago.

Are you going to make me search on that? :-(

Here ya go, have fun! Plato's "Republic"

Gahh, I need the "Plato's Republic For Dummies" version!

Message edited by author 2012-11-15 15:34:16.

11/15/2012 03:37:41 PM · #571

Here ya go Plato's Republic for Dummies

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11/15/2012 03:54:34 PM · #572

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

Here ya go Plato's Republic for Dummies

That Plato guy was good with the BS. I'll bet he was awesome at picking up chicks.

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11/15/2012 03:59:02 PM · #573

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Here ya go Plato's Republic for Dummies

That Plato guy was good with the BS. I'll bet he was awesome at picking up chicks.

Actually, he was better at Platonic relationships.

11/15/2012 04:04:59 PM · #574

Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by Strikeslip:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
Here ya go Plato's Republic for Dummies

That Plato guy was good with the BS. I'll bet he was awesome at picking up chicks.

Actually, he was better at Platonic relationships.

Nice, LOL!