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 10/24/2012 04:07:31 PM · #26
Originally posted by Venser:
Originally posted by hahn23:
I sometimes hear from the younger people that they want to see something new and creative. If it's been done before, they are not interested. As one grows older, one learns there is really nothing new under the sun. There's nothing wrong with photographing a subject time and time again... until one gets it perfectly done right.
And that's a valid point Richard, but you can't expect the viewer/voter to want to travel that path with you. At a certain point they may become complacent or apathetic in regards of your journey towards perfection.

It's my journey, not anyone else's. I look at my images from 6 years ago, which I thought were good at the time, and find my early work lacking. I think 6 years in the future, I will find my current efforts to be not very good. I see new opportunities in old subjects every day. I'll keep doing what I'm doing. The viewers/voters are free to do whatever they want.
 10/24/2012 04:18:07 PM · #27
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Message edited by author 2012-10-24 17:37:09.
 10/24/2012 04:57:57 PM · #28
I really like how my thread has developed.

TOTALLY AWESOME!
 10/24/2012 07:10:36 PM · #29
Originally posted by hahn23:
... As one grows older, one learns there is really nothing new under the sun...


While this is true, one must never overlook the fact that many things are indeed new to the individual... I for one see "New" (to me anyway) things on a regular basis.

Ray

10/24/2012 07:45:32 PM · #30
Some of you may, no doubt, notice many posts missing from this thread. It isn't open for debate and this thread will be locked if it cannot stay on topic.
 10/24/2012 08:10:44 PM · #31
Originally posted by frisca:
Some of you may, no doubt, notice many posts missing from this thread. It isn't open for debate and this thread will be locked if it cannot stay on topic.

Please stay on topic, Frisca.
 10/24/2012 08:12:40 PM · #32
Originally posted by frisca:
Some of you may, no doubt, notice many posts missing from this thread. It isn't open for debate and this thread will be locked if it cannot stay on topic.


Thanks to Slippy, it was on topic. No longer though.
 10/24/2012 08:14:05 PM · #33
Originally posted by Spork99:
Originally posted by frisca:
Some of you may, no doubt, notice many posts missing from this thread. It isn't open for debate and this thread will be locked if it cannot stay on topic.


Thanks to Slippy, it was on topic. No longer though.

Well, now my signature doesn't make sense anymore. I don'tknow how h2 will feel about that... :-(
 10/24/2012 08:24:08 PM · #34
Thank you, Frisca!
 10/24/2012 08:31:07 PM · #35
Originally posted by frisca:
Some of you may, no doubt, notice many posts missing from this thread. It isn't open for debate and this thread will be locked if it cannot stay on topic.


I'm liking this. :)

Also, TOTALLY AWESOME!

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 20:31:33.
 10/24/2012 08:52:29 PM · #36
Originally posted by hihosilver:
Thank you, Frisca!

+1
 10/24/2012 09:12:31 PM · #37
Golly Gee Willikers, I miss all the fun...

However, to address the original question... I believe it is the photographer's job to communicate their vision to the viewer.

I do spend time with each image, but I do not have unlimited time to figure out what you were trying to say. It's up to you to decide what audience you seek. If you desire to write poetry in an obscure language only a few speak, then do not be dismayed when only a few stop to listen to the entire work. If you speak to the masses, the audience grows. However, neither is wrong, neither is "better" than the other.

DPC is populated by people from around the world. If you elect the obscure language, there will always be the few who appreciate your work. But you will never win People's Choice.

In the end, do you shoot for you, or do you shoot for us? If you shoot for you, which I recommend, then do not expect us to be you. If you shoot for us, then you may win some pretty pixels. But what have you done for your own vision and journey?
10/25/2012 02:11:38 PM · #38
Originally posted by h2:
Originally posted by posthumous:
onuses are like opinions. Everybody has one.

that's anuses ;)


The above exchange is a great analogy to the original question.

I am the "photographer"

h2 is the "viewer"

Did the anuses come from me, or from him? Some people, including myself, will see them clearly in my original post, whereas others will think they came from h2.

Strikeslip then played the role of a truly "active viewer" by shaping h2 excerpts into entirely new meanings. Just to add to the deliciousness of the analogy, this "active viewer" was censored for subverting the "topic" of the thread.
 10/25/2012 02:16:09 PM · #39
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by h2:
Originally posted by posthumous:
onuses are like opinions. Everybody has one.

that's anuses ;)


The above exchange is a great analogy to the original question.

I am the "photographer"

h2 is the "viewer"

Did the anuses come from me, or from him? Some people, including myself, will see them clearly in my original post, whereas others will think they came from h2.

Strikeslip then played the role of a truly "active viewer" by shaping h2 excerpts into entirely new meanings. Just to add to the deliciousness of the analogy, this "active viewer" was censored for subverting the "topic" of the thread.


Really quite the thread thus far. I agree. :)
 10/25/2012 02:25:46 PM · #40
Beware of photographers bearing onuses.
 10/25/2012 03:14:08 PM · #41
I feel it's up to the photographer to tell a story with his/her photo.
When in a challenge the story should pertain to the topic.
When shooting for a challenge it's not about ME it's about me trying to
tell a story with my photo and hopefully have a creative approach.
Something that's proving to be VERY difficult.

If I was going to shoot just for ME I wouldn't enter the challenge and
just hang my shot on the wall.
 10/25/2012 03:15:16 PM · #42
Please stay onus topicus, tnun.
 10/25/2012 03:36:28 PM · #43
topicus non onum fit.

Message edited by author 2012-10-25 15:37:01.
 10/25/2012 04:27:09 PM · #44
They have a creme for that, but this isn't the place.

If you feel it's up to the photographer to tell you the story, do you also feel it's up to the author to tell you the story if you can't be bothered to learn how to read?

10/25/2012 04:38:47 PM · #45
Originally posted by Spork99:
They have a creme for that, but this isn't the place.

If you feel it's up to the photographer to tell you the story, do you also feel it's up to the author to tell you the story if you can't be bothered to learn how to read?


precisely. That novel was too complicated. I give it a "one."
 10/25/2012 04:40:41 PM · #46
Originally posted by Spork99:
If you feel it's up to the photographer to tell you the story, do you also feel it's up to the author to tell you the story if you can't be bothered to learn how to read?

That's a flawed analogy, though. The question is more like whether it's up to the author to explain the references/allusions in his work, or up to the reader to be well-enough versed in, say, history and mythology to UNDERSTAND those references. And after all, books written for children may be more easily "understandable", more "transparent" as it were, than those written for adults. But the bottom line is, if you don't "get it", is it my failure as writer/photographer, or yours as reader/viewer? No single answer fits all cases, obviously.

It's almost a silly, or meaningless, question.
 10/25/2012 05:02:06 PM · #47
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Spork99:
If you feel it's up to the photographer to tell you the story, do you also feel it's up to the author to tell you the story if you can't be bothered to learn how to read?

That's a flawed analogy, though. The question is more like whether it's up to the author to explain the references/allusions in his work, or up to the reader to be well-enough versed in, say, history and mythology to UNDERSTAND those references. And after all, books written for children may be more easily "understandable", more "transparent" as it were, than those written for adults. But the bottom line is, if you don't "get it", is it my failure as writer/photographer, or yours as reader/viewer? No single answer fits all cases, obviously.

It's almost a silly, or meaningless, question.


Of course it's silly, just like saying the photographer has to make every element in their image obvious at a level equal to the viewer's visual comprehension or their image is bad is silly.
10/25/2012 05:07:52 PM · #48
Sometimes, I need to re-read a book a couple times to get the complete effect. Sometimes I have to stand on a ladder to see the whole view. When I was small, I read books that were written for my age group. Now that I am all grown up, I don't expect authors to lower their literary skills just for me. The train is moving folks, time to jump on, if you can.
 10/25/2012 05:14:12 PM · #49
An image that makes you think in one thing, an image that forces you to think is another.
 10/25/2012 05:22:55 PM · #50
The literary analogy might be more like "If you do not understand the book, do you feel it is the author's obligation to explain it to you/explain why she wrote it?"

Never apologize, never explain. A little cream goes a long way.
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