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10/24/2012 06:09:05 PM · #176

Originally posted by posthumous:

Originally posted by cowboy221977:
posthumous Yeah I think you missed the point...Romney is going to turn this country aroud...(the bald eagle being the symbol for the U.S.) and Obama is only worried about big bird....There are other ways to get funding for PBS other than the govmt giving millions of $$. They already do fairly well with fundraising.

ohhhhh is that what it means? I couldn't figure it out. I guess Sesame Street turned me into an idiot.

<3 This is a laugh riot.

10/24/2012 06:15:03 PM · #177

Originally posted by cowboy221977:

This is what Obama said: "We also have fewer horses and bayonets because of the nature of our military's changed." Note that he said FEWER; he didn't say there were none.

10/24/2012 06:17:22 PM · #178

So Obama thinks we still have SOME horses in the military?

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 18:18:16.

10/24/2012 06:25:13 PM · #179

Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by blindjustice:

This is the one I saw,

This election is about priorities, perhaps.

Priorities like security for our Libyan Ambassador? ...oh wait, we don't have one any more. That can't be optimal.

If we go into blaming presidents for what happened on their watch...

Bush= 911, Nearly 3000 Americans dead (in New York City)
Reagan=83' Beirut-161 dead(cut and run- no response, no retribution)
Obama= Libya, 4 dead? IN the most unstable country save maybe, Syria. and who knows what Obama has in store for the perps.

There is such a double standard when it comes to national security. If 9/11 and the Iraq war had happened with a Democrat in the White House, a Dem wouldn't be elected to the presidency for a generation. But Bush gets a complete pass.

10/24/2012 06:26:48 PM · #180

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Stick tot his event/issue. There should be NO PERPS if requests for security had been granted. Then there's the blatant cover-up. Sorry, but Obama supporters who can't even hold him accountable for what they would crucify a Republican prez for have no credibility with me.

Is the anger held against Obama for these deaths in any way shifted by the fact that the Republican lead house cut 330 million dollars from the amount that the White House asked for in funding for embassy security in fiscal 2012?

Is the fact that only 5 Americans and 6 Libyans were on security when two waves of attackers estimated to be around sixty in all, armed with automatic weapons , RPGs and shoulder mounted anti-aircraft weapons attacked the embassy. RPGs fire range is 1000 yards, stingers fire 7000 yards.

Had the Benghazi embassy gotten the requested extra 12 agents, do you really think it would have kept Chris Stevens from being killed? Stevens died from smoke inhalation as a result of a weapon that could have been launched from blocks away, and a force of 60 highly armed suicide shock troops are only slightly less likely to over run 23 agents than 11.

I know it is a political talking point on Fox, like anything else Congressman Issa is involved in, it is less about fixing problems than counting coup on the other party.

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 18:27:51.

How Many Horses and Bayonets Does the U.S. Military Really Have?

10/24/2012 06:29:11 PM · #181

Originally posted by Digipixer:

So Obama thinks we still have SOME horses in the military?

10/24/2012 06:30:14 PM · #182

Originally posted by Digipixer:

So Obama thinks we still have SOME horses in the military?

This is what boggles my mind. Obama sucks, Romney sucks, but everyone is running around asking the wrong questions and thinking their guy is awesome and the other guy sucks for all the wrong reasons. I already quoted once today to a friend and I'll do it again.

Hitchhiker's Guide to th Galaxy. Truth via fiction:

"The President in particular is very much a figurehead- he wields no real power whatsoever. He is apparently chosen by the government, but the qualities he is required to display are not those of leadership but those of finely judged outrage. For this reason the President is always a controversial choice, always an infuriating but fascinating character. His job is not to wield power but to draw attention away from it. On those criteria Zaphod Beeblebrox is one of the most successful Presidents the Galaxy has ever had- he has already spent two of his ten presidential years in prison for fraud. Very very few people realize that the President and the Government have virtually no power at all, and of these few people only six know whence ultimate political power is wielded. Most of the others secretly believe that the ultimate decision-making process is handled by a computer. They couldn't be more wrong."

10/24/2012 06:31:41 PM · #183

176 horses---I stand corrected.

10/24/2012 06:32:12 PM · #184

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Stick tot his event/issue. There should be NO PERPS if requests for security had been granted. Then there's the blatant cover-up. Sorry, but Obama supporters who can't even hold him accountable for what they would crucify a Republican prez for have no credibility with me.

Is the anger held against Obama for these deaths in any way shifted by the fact that the Republican lead house cut 330 million dollars from the amount that the White House asked for in funding for embassy security in fiscal 2012?

Is the fact that only 5 Americans and 6 Libyans were on security when two waves of attackers estimated to be around sixty in all, armed with automatic weapons , RPGs and shoulder mounted anti-aircraft weapons attacked the embassy. RPGs fire range is 1000 yards, stingers fire 7000 yards.

Had the Benghazi embassy gotten the requested extra 12 agents, do you really think it would have kept Chris Stevens from being killed? Stevens died from smoke inhalation as a result of a weapon that could have been launched from blocks away, and a force of 60 highly armed suicide shock troops are only slightly less likely to over run 23 agents than 11.

I know it is a political talking point on Fox, like anything else Congressman Issa is involved in, it is less about fixing problems than counting coup on the other party.

My understanding is that the additional agents that were requested would have gone to Tripoli anyway, not Benghazi.

10/24/2012 06:34:34 PM · #185

Originally posted by Digipixer:

So Obama thinks we still have SOME horses in the military?

Yes, he does. Yes, we do. Not many, fewer than we had a century ago, but those special forces guys in Afghanistan are indeed riding horses.

There is a difference between fewer, and none.

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 18:43:56.

10/24/2012 06:36:21 PM · #186

Right, I remember the news story when they requested saddles and everyone wondered why.

10/24/2012 06:42:55 PM · #187

I know cops are not military but I'm still amused and amazed each time I see one on a horse. What's up with that??

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

10/24/2012 06:47:18 PM · #188

Originally posted by escapetooz:

I know cops are not military but I'm still amused and amazed each time I see one on a horse. What's up with that??

mounted police are a good tool to deal with angry crowds. they clear a street fast because 1)they are big and scary, 2) no matter how willing you are to hurt a cop, are you really enough of an asshat to hurt the poor horse he is riding?

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

10/24/2012 06:49:20 PM · #189

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by escapetooz:
I know cops are not military but I'm still amused and amazed each time I see one on a horse. What's up with that??

mounted police are a good tool to deal with angry crowds. they clear a street fast because 1)they are big and scary, 2) no matter how willing you are to hurt a cop, are you really enough of an asshat to hurt the poor horse he is riding?

You beat me to it. Plus they have a really good POV for overlooking crowds, and they are easy for civilians to spot as well.

RayEthier

Canon EOS-5D Mark II

Canon EF-S 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 USM

10/24/2012 07:02:23 PM · #190

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by escapetooz:
I know cops are not military but I'm still amused and amazed each time I see one on a horse. What's up with that??

mounted police are a good tool to deal with angry crowds. they clear a street fast because 1)they are big and scary, 2) no matter how willing you are to hurt a cop, are you really enough of an asshat to hurt the poor horse he is riding?

You beat me to it. Plus they have a really good POV for overlooking crowds, and they are easy for civilians to spot as well.

...Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the memories.

Ray

blindjustice

Canon EOS-7D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

10/24/2012 07:20:07 PM · #191

Asshat is a great word. Speaking of asshats, how about that shining blond star of the GOP, Ann Coulter?

Eta: sorry to ruin a poignant part about horses. Her comments and backlash are prob best left for another thread.

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 19:40:49.

10/24/2012 07:52:29 PM · #192

Coulter--horses ass, nice segue

Message edited by author 2012-10-24 19:53:03.

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10/24/2012 07:57:05 PM · #193

Originally posted by blindjustice:

Eta: sorry to ruin a poignant part about horses. Her comments and backlash are prob best left for another thread.

Yes, her good name was being besmirched over here

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

10/24/2012 10:44:20 PM · #194

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

Originally posted by escapetooz:
I know cops are not military but I'm still amused and amazed each time I see one on a horse. What's up with that??

mounted police are a good tool to deal with angry crowds. they clear a street fast because 1)they are big and scary, 2) no matter how willing you are to hurt a cop, are you really enough of an asshat to hurt the poor horse he is riding?

You beat me to it. Plus they have a really good POV for overlooking crowds, and they are easy for civilians to spot as well.

...Ahhhhhhhhhhhhh the memories.

Ray

I've been on the other side of such an event, and Brennan's description is spot on ... plus, on normal patrol, they are a great way for the police to interact with the public on a friendly basis. In crowded cities (like San Francisco), they can get places a patrol car or even a motorcycle can't, and in patrolling the parks they don't create any noise pollution.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/25/2012 05:33:22 AM · #195

So... how about that arrest of Jill Stein for trying to get into the debate? My favorite part is when the police made a line she couldn't cross and then arrested HER for stopping traffic. What silly ninnies. Cops use the same old tricks like that. They don't even NEED to be more clever because who's gunna stop them? (Side note when I was a kid I saw a cop beat an old man and then the man was charged with assault. Same trick. Cops arresting someone for their own crime.)

Message edited by author 2012-10-25 05:34:32.

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

10/25/2012 05:52:47 AM · #196

Cops are another subject, but on the issue of Jill Stein - what is f'd up is that she and the other candidates were not invited to debate. ALL candidates whose names will be on the ballot should be allowed to participate. That is something I would like to see changed by the next election cycle.

Canon EF 24-105mm f/4.0L IS

10/25/2012 05:56:29 AM · #197

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Well they designed a lovely little catch-22 so that third party candidates most assuredly CANT end up in the debates. Then we all get to hear the "voting for a 3rd party candidate is throwing your vote away!" speech from concerned friends. How many people don't vote third party for this fear?

Do not look behind the curtain. Just keep on voting for crap option A. and crap option B. and shut up about it!

Art Roflmao

Canon EOS-6D Mark II

10/25/2012 06:06:30 AM · #198

Originally posted by escapetooz:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Cops are another subject, but on the issue of Jill Stein - what is f'd up is that she and the other candidates were not invited to debate. ALL candidates whose names will be on the ballot should be allowed to participate. That is something I would like to see changed by the next election cycle.

Well they designed a lovely little catch-22 so that third party candidates most assuredly CANT end up in the debates. Then we all get to hear the "voting for a 3rd party candidate is throwing your vote away!" speech from concerned friends. How many people don't vote third party for this fear?

Do not look behind the curtain. Just keep on voting for crap option A. and crap option B. and shut up about it!

Oooh - we seem to agree on something. I'm excited. ;-)

I am hoping the internet and social media / new media can help change this two party situation. Will take time and effort.