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10/21/2012 07:44:58 PM · #51 |
| Newsletters don't repay paying your practitioner talking to you for an hour ... |
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10/21/2012 07:59:47 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Newsletters don't repay paying your practitioner talking to you for an hour ... |
The point is not to hopefully not be there in the first place. Even still, I've never felt rushed by my doctors.
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10/21/2012 11:58:53 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by escapetooz:
The brain, as with the body, is capable of massive changes with the right exercises, but we'd rather take "diet pills" so to speak. |
I'm not a believer in just taking a pill for everything. I do use them when needed, but there are many conditions that can be handled without drugs and their potential side effects. I guess doctors get used to patients who just want a pill for everything, and the drug companies must be an influence as well.
When the doc told me how high my blood pressure was a couple of years ago, she just prescribed some BP meds and I never got the stern "excercise and lose weight" lecture I expected. I handled that myself because I didn't want to take the pills. I was on two meds for a while, one didn't do much and one was very effective at getting my BP down. The one that was effective she took me off of in February after my cycling, diet changes and weight loss got it down to reasonable levels. When my last set of results came in from a recent follow up blood test, everything was normal. My wife went over and kissed Celeste (my bicycle).
Maybe sporting goods makers should start marketing via the medical trade. Your medical insurance could cover part of the cost of a pair of running shoes or a bike. Yes, Nike and Trek would like that. Never happen, though. |
Good on you Spiffy, and this is exactly what I mean, like you mentioned in the part I highlighted in bold and italics, doctors in general don't deal with the cause of our medical problems, but only deal with the symptoms, it's totally upside down, along with many other things in this world!! |
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10/22/2012 06:26:00 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by Neat:
Since most of you have posted what I wanted to post, I have no more to say, but thatI do not believe In "ADHD" |
Originally posted by Spork99:
That's like saying I don't believe in cancer. |
Yes, and an index of your ignorance.
Originally posted by Neat:
Ok I wish you all the best really, maybe I should of re-phrased the above to, I don't believe in medicating children, there is a cause for every effect, doctors mainly want to deal with the effect and not the cause that's the way the world works. I like to deal with the cause, and then work out a solution.
See I knew I should of kept out of this thread, anyway seriously, either way whatever works for you, all the best, I meant no harm.
But if there was a crusade I could push, it would be to stop 'drugging our children' that's just a quick fix solution....that's it! |
Yes, you should have kept out of this thread.
How you can go from "I don't believe in medicating children." to "I don't believe in ADHD." completely escapes me. Truly, it sounds like backpedaling, and purely as a result of the responses you received.
"Whatever works for you, all the best."?
How about pull your head out of........the sand, and do a little research? Maybe if you understood anything about it, you'd feel differenmtly.
Until you've been beaten, belittled, thrown out of school after school, sent from doctor to doctor, you have *NO* idea whatsoever what a nightmare ADD/ADHD can be. And trust me, it doesn't just affect the child, it affects the entire family. It doesn't stop when you get out of school, either. It's a curse for a lifetime.
"I don't believe in ADHD."
Wow.......just freakin' wow....
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10/22/2012 07:18:05 AM · #55 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Neat:
Since most of you have posted what I wanted to post, I have no more to say, but thatI do not believe In "ADHD" |
Originally posted by Spork99:
That's like saying I don't believe in cancer. |
Yes, and an index of your ignorance.
Originally posted by Neat:
Ok I wish you all the best really, maybe I should of re-phrased the above to, I don't believe in medicating children, there is a cause for every effect, doctors mainly want to deal with the effect and not the cause that's the way the world works. I like to deal with the cause, and then work out a solution.
See I knew I should of kept out of this thread, anyway seriously, either way whatever works for you, all the best, I meant no harm.
But if there was a crusade I could push, it would be to stop 'drugging our children' that's just a quick fix solution....that's it! |
Yes, you should have kept out of this thread.
How you can go from "I don't believe in medicating children." to "I don't believe in ADHD." completely escapes me. Truly, it sounds like backpedaling, and purely as a result of the responses you received.
"Whatever works for you, all the best."?
How about pull your head out of........the sand, and do a little research? Maybe if you understood anything about it, you'd feel differenmtly.
Until you've been beaten, belittled, thrown out of school after school, sent from doctor to doctor, you have *NO* idea whatsoever what a nightmare ADD/ADHD can be. And trust me, it doesn't just affect the child, it affects the entire family. It doesn't stop when you get out of school, either. It's a curse for a lifetime.
"I don't believe in ADHD."
Wow.......just freakin' wow.... |
I do think that too many doctors simply want to medicate children without finding the cause. some children seem as if they have ADD/ADHD and in fact, may not have it... yet the doctors want to medicate.
our youngest son has always been hyperactive. so we tried eliminating all sugar/refined foods/etc. didn't help. we took him to a couple of doctors. some said ADHD, some did not. most who DID say ADHD wanted to medicate. we refused (mostly because my husband doesn't want to medicate our children unless absolutely necessary).
well... after Dallas' accident, and starting therapy, Mac went along for some visits. the therapists noticed his behavior and asked if it started after his brothers accident. it didn't, but it did intensify.
they did some different tests and said he had sensory issues.
so he's begun therapy for his issues.
it seems to help some. and I'm glad we didn't jump the gun with medication.
but *I* believe parents should get second, third, fourth opinions...
do research before medicating your child.
because just as many parents are to blame for over medicating as doctors are.
PS: I've only read the previous post on this issue, as I am on my phone right now... so when I get a free moment, I will read all previous conversations and elaborate on my stance, if necessary.
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10/22/2012 07:40:09 AM · #56 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Neat:
Since most of you have posted what I wanted to post, I have no more to say, but thatI do not believe In "ADHD" |
Originally posted by Spork99:
That's like saying I don't believe in cancer. |
Yes, and an index of your ignorance.
Originally posted by Neat:
Ok I wish you all the best really, maybe I should of re-phrased the above to, I don't believe in medicating children, there is a cause for every effect, doctors mainly want to deal with the effect and not the cause that's the way the world works. I like to deal with the cause, and then work out a solution.
See I knew I should of kept out of this thread, anyway seriously, either way whatever works for you, all the best, I meant no harm.
But if there was a crusade I could push, it would be to stop 'drugging our children' that's just a quick fix solution....that's it! |
Yes, you should have kept out of this thread.
How you can go from "I don't believe in medicating children." to "I don't believe in ADHD." completely escapes me. Truly, it sounds like backpedaling, and purely as a result of the responses you received.
"Whatever works for you, all the best."?
How about pull your head out of........the sand, and do a little research? Maybe if you understood anything about it, you'd feel differenmtly.
Until you've been beaten, belittled, thrown out of school after school, sent from doctor to doctor, you have *NO* idea whatsoever what a nightmare ADD/ADHD can be. And trust me, it doesn't just affect the child, it affects the entire family. It doesn't stop when you get out of school, either. It's a curse for a lifetime.
"I don't believe in ADHD."
Wow.......just freakin' wow.... |
The reason I said the above, is that I didn't wish to make a scene or offend anyone anymore, if anyone has a problem with what I said they can PM me.
Thankyou! |
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10/22/2012 08:31:48 AM · #57 |
I know this has nothing to do with the tangent the thread has taken but I'm currently vigorously debating on why whitewashing of minorities on television is not okay and the person keeps on digging into a hole by admitting blackface is perfectly fine because America with its black president is post racial so belittling/caricature of minorities is okay and there aren't enough good black actors to fill the post. Wha?
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10/22/2012 08:40:52 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by UrfaTheGreat:
I know this has nothing to do with the tangent the thread has taken but I'm currently vigorously debating on why whitewashing of minorities on television is not okay and the person keeps on digging into a hole by admitting blackface is perfectly fine because America with its black president is post racial so belittling/caricature of minorities is okay and there aren't enough good black actors to fill the post. Wha? |
Flight of ideas here is fine.
Your friend is shockingly stupid.
Since we're post racism, why don't they prove it by spending some time here in Overtown? Or maybe East St. Louis, or perhaps New Orleans' Nineth Ward. Yeah, post racism my arse. |
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10/22/2012 09:33:55 AM · #59 |
Originally posted by Neat:
The reason I said the above, is that I didn't wish to make a scene or offend anyone anymore, if anyone has a problem with what I said they can PM me. Thank you! |
Yah, well.....even after you got responses from people either with the condition, or who have had the heart-wrenching stress of having it with their children, you still come across with this kind of "Whatever" attitude.
I was initially floored by the sheer ignorance of your "I don't believe in it." To discover that it was willful ignorance is really a bitter pill to swallow.
So.....too bad if you don't want these replies in thread. You should have thought about that before you spoke out of school.
BTW.....perhaps you should read this: The Mayo Clinic on ADD/ADHD
Unless, of course, you believe you know better than they do.....
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10/22/2012 09:45:20 AM · #60 |
Daily double post.
Message edited by author 2012-10-22 09:46:52. |
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10/22/2012 09:45:23 AM · #61 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by Neat:
The reason I said the above, is that I didn't wish to make a scene or offend anyone anymore, if anyone has a problem with what I said they can PM me. Thank you! |
Yah, well.....even after you got responses from people either with the condition, or who have had the heart-wrenching stress of having it with their children, you still come across with this kind of "Whatever" attitude.
I was initially floored by the sheer ignorance of your "I don't believe in it." To discover that it was willful ignorance is really a bitter pill to swallow.
So.....too bad if you don't want these replies in thread. You should have thought about that before you spoke out of school.
BTW.....perhaps you should read this: The Mayo Clinic on ADD/ADHD
Unless, of course, you believe you know better than they do..... |
Don't worry, that whatever attitude isn't limited to this area. I'm sure it causes her more problems than it causes you. Just one example is the fact that I no longer respond to her requests for advice or critique, as she clearly ignored everything said, and twisted it to mean whatever she wanted to hear.
In short Jeb, don't waste your breath, she won't hear anything you say.
ETA: this comment has been reported for a rules violation. Apparently Neat thinks I am lying and defaming her. If anyone actually needs examples, I'd be glad to post links that will support my observations.
Cheers, and my apologies for apparently ruining your day Neat, I know (well) how hard it can be to hear the truth.
Message edited by author 2012-10-22 10:18:48. |
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10/22/2012 09:56:56 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by LydiaToo:
There actually is something that they're "diagnosing" and labeling Obedience Defiance Disorder. Seriously.
When I was growing up, they called that "not wanting to do something so pitching a fit".
I was spanked for it.
Now they label having a will of your own with having a disorder. They get special attention for this... for not wanting to do something they're told to do.
Go figure. |
Actually, it's Oppositional Defiance Disorder.
And... Oppositional Defiance Disorder is serious.
But too many people get diagnosed as this because they don't want to listen to their parents.
Our oldest daughter has ODD.
Being a child/teenager is one thing... but kids with ODD don't process things they same. They seem to have no fear. And why I say no fear, I don't mean fear of heights, falling, bugs, typical fears.
Our daughter would sneak out at 2 in the morning, go to the most ghetto parts of town because that's where her "friends" lived, and didn't understand she could be raped/robbed/killed. She had no fear of it. She doesn't fear authority. Cops, judges, any authority figure she disregards.
This is just ONE instance of things she's done. It's gone on since she was 10.
She also has other issues combined with ODD.
But there is certain criteria that must be met for a child to be diagnosed with having ODD.
It's not just when a child decides to back talk their parents, or be disrespectful. It's much, MUCH more than that.
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10/22/2012 10:00:42 AM · #63 |
We're getting off topic, guys.
What I don't get is how Romney likes Snooki!
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10/22/2012 10:09:31 AM · #64 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
We're getting off topic, guys.
What I don't get is how Romney likes Snooki! |
Didn't you hear?
She's lost so much weight/slimmed down.
THAT was the first reason out of his mouth?
Ha.
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10/22/2012 10:29:55 AM · #65 |
| In general, way too much generalization and stereotyping going on in this thread. Who is Snooki? |
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10/22/2012 10:30:55 AM · #66 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
In general, way too much generalization and stereotyping going on in this thread. Who is Snooki? |
She was part of Jersey Shore. And she's on the JWOW and Snooki show (both MTV shows)
You either love her, or hate her... same with Honey Boo Boo
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10/22/2012 10:42:52 AM · #67 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
In general, way too much generalization and stereotyping going on in this thread. Who is Snooki? |
She was part of Jersey Shore. And she's on the JWOW and Snooki show (both MTV shows)
You either love her, or hate her... same with Honey Boo Boo |
I haven't bothered trying to love or hate her. Never watched Jersey Shore, and after seeing her once on an interview, wasn't interested in seeing Jersey Shore. :o)
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10/22/2012 10:44:02 AM · #68 |
Originally posted by bspurgeon:
In general, way too much generalization and stereotyping going on in this thread. Who is Snooki? |
Another skanky, drunken moron made famous by MTV... |
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10/22/2012 10:44:45 AM · #69 |
Originally posted by Denielle:
You either love her, or hate her... same with Honey Boo Boo |
i dont love or hate either, i just don't care to give a crap about either of them, i encourage others to do the same. |
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