Govmt getting too much control!!!!!!

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10/17/2012 05:29:41 PM · #57

A little levity. This just makes me chuckle.

Message edited by author 2012-10-17 17:30:03.

cowboy221977

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10/17/2012 05:44:59 PM · #58

doc that is good

GeneralE

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10/17/2012 05:46:00 PM · #59

Along the same line, Hugh Hefner has noted that if anyone needs any binders full of women he has several ...

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

10/17/2012 06:57:22 PM · #60

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Cowboy and his unsupported opinion was less foolish than the three others and their supported arguments.

What supported arguments did three others make?

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10/17/2012 07:39:14 PM · #61

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Cowboy and his unsupported opinion was less foolish than the three others and their supported arguments.

What supported arguments did three others make?

Obviously that his multitude of sins indicate that Reagan was not the "best" president of recent history. You don't have to state the argument outright to know it was being made.

You left off an important part of my sentence..."If you take the "expert" opinion," Please don't chop my sentences in half. That portion was very important to indicated what I was considering was meant by "best" (an obviously subjective word).

Message edited by author 2012-10-17 19:46:12.

BrennanOB

Canon EOS-1D Mark II

10/17/2012 07:49:15 PM · #62

I brought Reagan into the thread when a few folks were bemoaning the damage that those lefty Californians do when they move out of state. I figured that it might rebut a silly argument since those who see California as far left tend to worship Reagan. It was not intended as an attack on Reagan, but as a tongue in cheek attack on a specious argument.

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10/17/2012 07:56:51 PM · #63

Originally posted by BrennanOB:

I wasn't considering you in the bashing category Brennan. I know exactly what argument you were making although I'd mildly disagree with it. I don't really think California is particularly purple. What red policy has come out of California lately that is influencing the rest of the country?

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

10/17/2012 08:21:17 PM · #64

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

What red policy has come out of California lately that is influencing the rest of the country?

Admittedly it was in 1978, but the (disasterous) effects of Proposition 13, which significantly transformed the ecaonomy and tax structure and philosophy of the whole country, countinue to be felt today.

Oh yeah, and the "three strikes" law and the whole "get tough on crime" approach, which has bankrupted the state, but made a bundle for prison construction firms, lawyers, and the prison guards' union.

Message edited by author 2012-10-17 20:23:44.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

10/17/2012 08:25:37 PM · #65

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

You left off an important part of my sentence..."If you take the "expert" opinion," Please don't chop my sentences in half. That portion was very important to indicated what I was considering was meant by "best" (an obviously subjective word).

You made a completely inaccurate statement without any supporting quote and then quibble that I didn't quote all of your irrelevant assertion? Whatever- it's your nonsense, so feel free to dress it up it any way you like. I did not make ANY claim as to the "best-ness" of Reagan's presidency (nor did anyone else as far as I can tell). If you look at the list I posted on Reagan's presidency you'll find most, if not all, of the things commonly asserted as faults of the current administration... and usually to a greater degree. Yet we've got people declaring Obama is a worst president because [things Reagan did even more] and Reagan was the best president [despite the same things that apparently make Obama bad]. I was not bashing Reagan. You can find faults with ANY president, however in this case it's essentially the same list as Obama and the comparative disconnect is glaring.

Message edited by author 2012-10-17 20:27:55.

10/17/2012 10:02:53 PM · #66

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
What red policy has come out of California lately that is influencing the rest of the country?

Admittedly it was in 1978, but the (disasterous) effects of Proposition 13, which significantly transformed the ecaonomy and tax structure and philosophy of the whole country, countinue to be felt today.

Oh yeah, and the "three strikes" law and the whole "get tough on crime" approach, which has bankrupted the state, but made a bundle for prison construction firms, lawyers, and the prison guards' union.

You do have to admit 1978 is going back a fair shake, isn't it?

10/17/2012 10:05:46 PM · #67

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
You left off an important part of my sentence..."If you take the "expert" opinion," Please don't chop my sentences in half. That portion was very important to indicated what I was considering was meant by "best" (an obviously subjective word).
You made a completely inaccurate statement without any supporting quote and then quibble that I didn't quote all of your irrelevant assertion? Whatever- it's your nonsense, so feel free to dress it up it any way you like. I did not make ANY claim as to the "best-ness" of Reagan's presidency (nor did anyone else as far as I can tell). If you look at the list I posted on Reagan's presidency you'll find most, if not all, of the things commonly asserted as faults of the current administration... and usually to a greater degree. Yet we've got people declaring Obama is a worst president because [things Reagan did even more] and Reagan was the best president [despite the same things that apparently make Obama bad]. I was not bashing Reagan. You can find faults with ANY president, however in this case it's essentially the same list as Obama and the comparative disconnect is glaring.

Well, I guess we can all agree then that Reagan and Obama are equally awesome! I did understand what you were doing. It was plain from the get-go with the mention of Reagan bumping up the deficit.

Soooo....all those things you listed....do you think they were really faults in the Reagan administration (in which case they were also of the Obama administration)? or do you think that while they are "commonly asserted" as faults, they actually weren't?

Message edited by author 2012-10-17 22:08:45.

scalvert

Canon EOS-5D Mark III

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10/17/2012 10:24:43 PM · #68

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Soooo....all those things you listed....do you think they were really faults in the Reagan administration (in which case they were also of the Obama administration)? or do you think that while they are "commonly asserted" as faults, they actually weren't?

A matter of opinion either way, but they should be considered faults or virtues for both, not a capital crime for one and overlooked or applauded for the other.

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

10/17/2012 10:56:41 PM · #69

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

You do have to admit 1978 is going back a fair shake, isn't it?

ADMITtedly was the first word of my post, or did you miss that part? I also said that the EFFECTS are still having a PROFOUND effect on the state and country, so the fact that it hasn't been changed (yet) means there must be sufficient ongoing support (among the voting majority) for it ...

10/17/2012 11:25:58 PM · #70

Originally posted by scalvert:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Soooo....all those things you listed....do you think they were really faults in the Reagan administration (in which case they were also of the Obama administration)? or do you think that while they are "commonly asserted" as faults, they actually weren't?

A matter of opinion either way, but they should be considered faults or virtues for both, not a capital crime for one and overlooked or applauded for the other.

Agreed.