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10/06/2012 01:53:50 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Dude, I tried merging onto the interstate in one of those when I worked for the dealership... Worse than a fricken Opal Cadet, genuinely felt like I was going to be run over before I could accelerate. |
i know, that's not to mention the turning radius of a semi. i drove it for seven years. then traded her in for scarlett. talk about extremes.
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10/06/2012 04:09:07 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
I've done 175 mph over here in the uk, that's 105mph over the limit trick is be very aware and don't get caught :), done 100 up through the mohave from la to mammoth they had signs saying speed enforced from the air. Only thing we saw in the air was two f-22 blast past at about 500 feet |
What kind of car was that? Other than high end cars like Maserati, Porsche and the like, the only kind of cars I know that can do that kind of speed are racing vehicles and they are not street legal.
Oh, with regards to being aware, radar has a funny way of not being all that visible, particularly at high speeds... when you do see them it is tooooooooooo late. :O)
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10/06/2012 05:03:08 PM · #28 |
| On the faster roads in California, like I-5, that are patrolled by air, the plane radios to a cruiser sitting at an over pass who will be giving you the ticket. If you see a single engine plane following the roadway, it is a good idea to be going slower than your neighbors or the limit until you check who is hiding at the next overpass. |
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10/06/2012 05:09:40 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by RayEthier:
What kind of car was that? Other than high end cars like Maserati, Porsche and the like, the only kind of cars I know that can do that kind of speed are racing vehicles and they are not street legal.
Oh, with regards to being aware, radar has a funny way of not being all that visible, particularly at high speeds... when you do see them it is tooooooooooo late. :O)
Ray |
Some of the versions of the C5 and C6 corvette will get there. Actually, I think the highest-tech version of the C6 will just touch 200. While they are very expensive new, well-cared-for used copies can can be had for reasonable bucks, e.g. $30k or less.
ETA: A *lot* of sport bikes will get there as well. Heck, my touring bike will exceed 155.
Message edited by author 2012-10-06 17:10:30. |
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10/06/2012 05:55:50 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by FourPointX:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
If you were a law enforcement officer on the lookout for speeders, which car would first attract your attention?
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The PT cruiser... But that's just because I hate those things. |
thanks man. my car at the roger waters concert.
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LOL...
Dude, I tried merging onto the interstate in one of those when I worked for the dealership... Worse than a fricken Opal Cadet, genuinely felt like I was going to be run over before I could accelerate. |
That sounds like my first car, a 1975 Datsun B-210... Horrible blind spots coupled with an anemic power plant made merging onto LA freeways interesting. I should have put a bumper sticker on it that read "55 or bust" |
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10/06/2012 06:08:29 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
That sounds like my first car, a 1975 Datsun B-210... Horrible blind spots coupled with an anemic power plant made merging onto LA freeways interesting. I should have put a bumper sticker on it that read "55 or bust" |
Sounds like it could have read "55 and bust!" ... |
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10/06/2012 08:17:45 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by FourPointX:
Originally posted by Cory:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
If you were a law enforcement officer on the lookout for speeders, which car would first attract your attention?
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The PT cruiser... But that's just because I hate those things. |
thanks man. my car at the roger waters concert.
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LOL...
Dude, I tried merging onto the interstate in one of those when I worked for the dealership... Worse than a fricken Opal Cadet, genuinely felt like I was going to be run over before I could accelerate. |
Evidently you were not driving the GT Turbo High Output.
Still the turning radius of an aircraft carrier, but will light the tires in a heartbeat.
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10/06/2012 08:39:37 PM · #33 |
In the wide-open spaces of California and Nevada, in a rental car, it's a good idea to learn how to use your Cruise Control. 4 miles over the speed limit will rarely, if ever, get you pulled over. It also defeats the eye in the sky.
One time, a while back, driving on I-5 I sailed by a surprise checkpoint, with the victims stacked up along the shoulder awaiting their turn to get a citation. They had been captured by low flying aircraft. Had I not been using Cruise Control, which I was just then trying to understand, I'd have been in line with the best of 'em.
Besides, you're here to look at the scenery. Well? What the Heck, take time to do so. |
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10/06/2012 08:42:28 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Spork99:
That sounds like my first car, a 1975 Datsun B-210... Horrible blind spots coupled with an anemic power plant made merging onto LA freeways interesting. I should have put a bumper sticker on it that read "55 or bust" |
Sounds like it could have read "55 and bust!" ... |
once the pt got up to cruising speed (after a few miles) it actually had a decent ride. |
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10/07/2012 02:15:04 AM · #35 |
Interesting that Snopes, the above study and the anecdote in this thread all refer to grey cars getting more than their fair share / lots of tickets. No way I'd have guessed that. Grey, but not silver. Wonder what that difference is. |
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10/07/2012 03:02:38 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by dtremain:
Interesting that Snopes, the above study and the anecdote in this thread all refer to grey cars getting more than their fair share / lots of tickets. No way I'd have guessed that. Grey, but not silver. Wonder what that difference is. |
Most of the true motorheads I know get the engine running as they want it while the body is bondo and primer. Grey primer. I see a whole lot of soupped up muscle cars that never seem to get that real paint job. They just scream up and down empty roads in their dull grey glory.
Message edited by author 2012-10-07 03:04:17. |
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10/07/2012 04:04:00 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by dtremain:
Interesting that Snopes, the above study and the anecdote in this thread all refer to grey cars getting more than their fair share / lots of tickets. No way I'd have guessed that. Grey, but not silver. Wonder what that difference is. |
Most of the true motorheads I know get the engine running as they want it while the body is bondo and primer. Grey primer. I see a whole lot of soupped up muscle cars that never seem to get that real paint job. They just scream up and down empty roads in their dull grey glory. |
Yup, RADAR doesn't care what color your car is.
While not a scientific sample... I've been stopped twice for speeding in my Red Prius, and let go with verbal warnings. 67 in a 55, and 72 in a 55. (Both rural roads, actually the same road, different mntha but in the same area.). Meanwhile I was stopped in my Black Corvette, in the same area, and was not speeding. No ticket, he just wanted to talk about the car.
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10/07/2012 05:48:51 PM · #38 |
Originally posted by ambaker:
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by dtremain:
Interesting that Snopes, the above study and the anecdote in this thread all refer to grey cars getting more than their fair share / lots of tickets. No way I'd have guessed that. Grey, but not silver. Wonder what that difference is. |
Most of the true motorheads I know get the engine running as they want it while the body is bondo and primer. Grey primer. I see a whole lot of soupped up muscle cars that never seem to get that real paint job. They just scream up and down empty roads in their dull grey glory. |
Yup, RADAR doesn't care what color your car is.
While not a scientific sample... I've been stopped twice for speeding in my Red Prius, and let go with verbal warnings. 67 in a 55, and 72 in a 55. (Both rural roads, actually the same road, different mntha but in the same area.). Meanwhile I was stopped in my Black Corvette, in the same area, and was not speeding. No ticket, he just wanted to talk about the car. |
Now it's not so much RADAR as laser speed detectors...they're more accurate and can precisely target a specific vehicle while not being picked up by radar detectors.
A long time ago, I was in CA, driving back to school heading North on the 101 and driving about 135mph (I was the ONLY car on the road at 3am) After passing through Santa Maria, I glimpsed some red and blue blinky lights waaaaaaaay back. I probably could have ditched the highway and gotten away, but instead I just pulled over onto the shoulder and waited. The CHP pulled in behind me and after we got the formalities out of the way and he determined I wasn't intoxicated or wanted, the exchange went something like this:
CHP: Do you know how fast you were going?
Me: No, not really.
CHP: I was doing 100 at the bottom of the onramp and you were pulling away hard...
Me: Oh...
CHP: Where are you going in such a hurry?
Me: Back to school...
CHP: You have a 4AM class or something?
Me: No, just wanted to open it up.
CHP: OK, well I'm going to let you off with a warning. Every CHP officer along here will know you're coming and they'll be looking for you, so stick to 55, OK?
Me: OK.
CHP: What do you have under the hood on this thing anyway?
Me: Wanna take a look?
So we spent 10 or 15 minutes going over the car and I was on my way. Double Nickel all the way. |
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10/08/2012 10:03:39 AM · #39 |
Thanks @dtremain I'll plan a route past Bryce Canyon National Park ... yeah, same with fast looking cars in the UK, my nan got stopped a few years ago and even though everyone was speeding the cop said he stopped her as she had a more sporty "boy racer" car! As for seatbelt I can't drive a car without one on, always worn one and it doesn't feel right if it's not fastened! I've been pulled dozens of times over the years in the "hot hatches" I've owner
Looking forward to a few days at the Canyon, aiming for sunrise / set views, hadn't thought about moonlit so will deff check that out as will be around full moon when I am there :)
Being polite can never hurt the situation, I had a landrover 90 a few years ago and got pulled at 11.30 at night for no good reason I could see, didn't turn the very loud deisel engine off and just asked the cop what the problem was in a fairly arogant voice ... he replied saying one of my rear lights was out!! Needless to say I killed the engine and lost the attitude!
@Spork99 Hmmm, hopfully no GPS or speed limiters ... though I don't think I'd get near it with the Mrs in the car anyway :)
@sfalice cruise control is always good for keeping sensible ... mostly for the scenery but gotta open it up a few times :)
The autobahns in germany are good for opening the car up, I was there last year "cruising" at about 150mph and started coming up on a police car, I backed off to 135 as I passed him becuase that would make all the difference!! Needless to say nothing happened! |
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10/08/2012 01:33:11 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by bobonacus:
The autobahns in germany are good for opening the car up, |
You do know that a good portion of the autobahns have speed limits right?... I would hate for you to get clocked at 200+ km/hr in say an 80km/hr zone.
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10/08/2012 03:24:12 PM · #41 |
You probably know that things are not close together in the Western U.S. - at least not like the UK. If you are bored of the Grand Canyon, and want something different during the day, Oak Creek Canyon (think the glorious red buttes reflected in deep blue water that would grace the covers of Arizona Highways magazine) is only about 2 hours away from the South Rim - between Flagstaff and Sedona - so you could probably do it (including a couple of hours there for photography) in about 6 hours. Sedona itself is pretty touristy & crowded.
One of my favorite areas in that neck of the woods is Montezuma's Well, Montezuma's Castle (they are right together - within a mile of each other), and Jerome, AZ (a ghost town that has been / is being revived). Jerome sits up on a mountainside and overlooks a valley. It was once a mining community, but the mine owners greedily extended their mines under the town, with predictable results. Lots of abandoned buildings from the late 1800's, and lots of interesting buildings (Spanish influence - metalwork, etc.) - but almost all built on a steep hillside (think ground entrances on the ground and second floors). One of my favorite memories is driving in a 914 between Jerome and Prescott on 89A (which, BTW, is closed in the winter) - about 17 miles, and I counted about two places where the straight stretch was long enough to pass on.
Bryce Canyon is in Utah, almost directly South of Salt Lake City, and directly North of the Grand Canyon. Bryce is about 4 hours NE from Las Vegas, the Grand Canyon (South Rim) is about 5 hours SE from Las Vegas, and it is almost 6 hours between Bryce and the South Rim - going across the Grand Canyon at the East end.
Bryce isn't far off the main road, and doesn't look like much until you get into the park and stop at an overlook - the canyon drops away in front of you, with switch back trails leading downward. It didn't look like fun climbing back up - even when I was young! ;-p
There are many, many miles of not much in Nevada, and Arizona - many places where the road is straight for 2 or 3 miles and no intersections. The road will come down off a hill, straight across a flat valley floor, and then back up over the next hill. There are also plenty of tight, twisty roads that climb up and over a mountain area.
Hope you have a great trip. |
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10/08/2012 06:06:50 PM · #42 |
| It's really hard to say, overall. Here in Colorado, my experience has been all over the place. Sometimes the boonies are the worst places and the most likely to get you in trouble for speeding at all, other times, nobody cares, and other times still, everybody can speed except through the known places. One thing that seems to be common in my experience is that often out of state individuals are pulled over. Now, this could be because they don't know when to slow down, or it could be because they're targeted, no clue which it actually is. |
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10/08/2012 08:31:04 PM · #43 |
Here's my two cents worth. I drove all the way from Alaska back to Michigan - which meant part of my trip was in the USA, part in Canada. I set my cruise control whenever I was on open road (outside of towns) to 5 mph over the limit. People would be flying past me, but I chose to not go any faster as I was pulling a trailer. I never got pulled over, but saw several of the folks who flew past me pulled over. If you are driving a reasonable speed, considering traffic and road conditions, the police are not going to harass you or ticket you for the most part. If however your jumping lanes, driving excessive speeds, and not considering the safety of yourself or others - expect to get pulled over. As for paying fines on the spot - not in the US. If you ask them to settle the fine right there you may even get cited for attempting to bribe an officer of the law.
Just have a safe trip, enjoy yourself without risking heavy fines and/or injuries. |
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10/08/2012 08:51:30 PM · #44 |
 bobonacus, after checking your itinerary, I see that you will be traveling from Las Vegas via #95, hanging a left at Beatty onto #374.
On I-95 you'll see a penitentiary on your left, and you will be surrounded by a whole lot of military government land marked 'keep out - this means YOU,' and a few photograph-worthy mailboxes. It's also crowded with cars. This is a heavily traveled route. Once you hit #374 at Beatty, you will also find (on your right) Rhyolite, a 'ghost town' that is much photographed and worthy of more tries.
With that in mind, if you want to "let 'er rip" go for it. If you feel like it, let me know how many $$$ you contribute to the local economy.
:)
If your driving range continues into Central California, when on Route 101, be a reverent believer around King City. My one, for sure, tip. |
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