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09/13/2012 08:14:48 PM · #76

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by Cory:
I am however bigoted against certain categories of the following real or perceived characteristics:
Personal habits, political alignment, and religious belief

Well, as long as you are aware. It's easy to use a bit of forensic judo and turn your logical argument on its head.

Facts I know to be true:
1) I witnessed a Christian last month sell some of their belongings and give the money to the homeless shelter.
2) I know a snippet in the Bible says "If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor" (Matthew 19:21)

From these two facts I am going to use your own logical processes demonstrated above and come to the following conclusions:

1) People who belong to an organized religion are benevolent, caring, and giving.
2) All benevolent, caring, and giving actions are likely to derive from organized religion.
3) If someone demonstrates a benevolent, caring, or giving action we can make a link to anything involving organized religion in their life. If we can't find that link we can fall back on their society and look for a link to organized religion there.

I actually feel a lot better now! All hail organized religion! ;)

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... and that my good friend is something you would describe as a QUANTUM LEAP.

Your efforts in this regard are however justifiable illustrations of just how we can mould things to fit our perceptions. :O)

Ray

09/13/2012 08:17:03 PM · #77

Originally posted by blindjustice:

The funny thing is, in the real world, you would be able to talk about this more effectively, rather than a tedious argument. you both make good points, but since no one can be convinced, why do this primitive stubborn dance again and again?

Hmmmmmmmm could it be because we are determined to find out if we can ever be in step?

Stranger things have happened you know.

Ray

09/13/2012 08:19:51 PM · #78

Originally posted by mike_311:

...yet how often do the acts of a few crazy people change the course of history?

Probably a lot, but after they proved their point they were no longer deemed crazy but rather as visionaries.

Ray

09/13/2012 08:23:42 PM · #79

Originally posted by RayEthier:

Originally posted by mike_311:

...yet how often do the acts of a few crazy people change the course of history?

Probably a lot, but after they proved their point they were no longer deemed crazy but rather as visionaries.

Ray

depends on how many people, if any they killed in the process

09/13/2012 08:29:03 PM · #80

Originally posted by RayEthier:

... and that my good friend is something you would describe as a QUANTUM LEAP. Your efforts in this regard are however justifiable illustrations of just how we can mould things to fit our perceptions. :O) Ray

Et tu? You saw my follow up, right? Or wait, maybe your word "justifiable" was a nudge nudge to say you understood what I was doing. Kudos if that was it! I'm going to think that was it because of your smiley.

Message edited by author 2012-09-13 20:34:11.

09/13/2012 08:36:56 PM · #81

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by RayEthier:
... and that my good friend is something you would describe as a QUANTUM LEAP. Your efforts in this regard are however justifiable illustrations of just how we can mould things to fit our perceptions. :O) Ray
Et tu? You saw my follow up, right? Or wait, maybe your word "justifiable" was a nudge nudge to say you understood what I was doing. Kudos if that was it! I'm going to think that was it because of your smiley.

Holy moly...first you agree with Shannon and then you decipher my encrypted message... I need to go outside to check if the sky is falling... brb, I hope. :O)

Ray

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/13/2012 09:07:55 PM · #82

I'd better quit while I'm ahead!

Good night folks! You've been great! Tip your waitress!

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

09/13/2012 09:09:39 PM · #83

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Tip your waitress!

Wait, that's not an urbanized version of cow-tipping is it? ;-)

Canon 12x IS USM (S3 IS built-in Lens) -- 36-432mm (35mm EQ)

09/13/2012 09:12:09 PM · #84

Originally posted by GeneralE:

Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Tip your waitress!

Wait, that's not an urbanized version of cow-tipping is it? ;-)

I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo not gonna touch this. :O)

Ray

GeneralE

Canon PowerShot S3 IS

09/13/2012 09:38:18 PM · #85

Originally posted by RayEthier:

I am sooooooooooooooooooooooo not gonna touch this. :O)

Ray

Nor the waitress, I trust ... sorry, but the way he phrased it I just couldn't resist ... :-)

09/13/2012 10:02:00 PM · #86

Originally posted by RayEthier:

*shrug*

Hell I'll admit it... I just do this because the more they say, the crazier they usually tend to look. I like it when they look crazy.

Message edited by author 2012-09-13 22:02:18.

09/13/2012 10:34:55 PM · #87

Originally posted by blindjustice:

The funny thing is, in the real world, you would be able to talk about this more effectively, rather than a tedious argument. you both make good points, but since no one can be convinced, why do this primitive stubborn dance again and again?

I do it so I CAN have a more effective, yet civilized talk. This is the proving ground, and like most practice fields it bears little resemblance to the real thing. I have a meeting with my HOA coming up in a month because someone doesn't like my greenhouse. I literally thought yesterday that it will be so much easier after my years in Rant because I know quite well what language only infuriates rather than convinces and will endeavor to avoid it. My world class onions can thank DPC rant.

Canon EF 70-200mm f/4.0L USM

09/13/2012 10:34:58 PM · #88

Double post

Message edited by author 2012-09-13 22:35:18.

karmat

Apple iPhone 7

09/13/2012 10:36:43 PM · #89

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Originally posted by blindjustice:
The funny thing is, in the real world, you would be able to talk about this more effectively, rather than a tedious argument. you both make good points, but since no one can be convinced, why do this primitive stubborn dance again and again?

I do it so I CAN have a more effective, yet civilized talk. This is the proving ground, and like most practice fields it bears little resemblance to the real thing. I have a meeting with my HOA coming up in a month because someone doesn't like my greenhouse. I literally thought yesterday that it will be so much easier after my years in Rant because I know quite well what language only infuriates rather than convinces and will endeavor to avoid it. My world class onions can thank DPC rant.

of all the "benefits" of dpc i've read, this has got to be among the most unique. :P

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

09/13/2012 10:45:26 PM · #90

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

Admittedly, this is another tangential benefit I also enjoy... It's the reason I really enjoy /rant. It's like debate class, but with people who aren't stupid. ;)

blindjustice

Canon EOS-7D

09/13/2012 11:28:20 PM · #91

It's interesting stuff, don't get me wrong.

09/14/2012 06:14:28 AM · #92

Originally posted by DrAchoo:

interesting. i would have just called them Nazis.

09/14/2012 01:14:26 PM · #93

So, reading the news... Totally unacceptable, we as a species shouldn't have to even tolerate this sort of primitive behavior.

//news.blogs.cnn.com/2012/09/14/witnesses-police-fire-on-protesters-near-u-s-embassy-in-yemen/?hpt=hp_t1

I really want to hear someone defend these jerks, I'm in the mood to lay into the first person who speaks up in their defense.

09/14/2012 01:27:06 PM · #94

are you against the protestors or the police firing on them?

Message edited by author 2012-09-14 13:27:14.

Sony SAL-1855 DT 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

09/14/2012 01:36:41 PM · #95

Originally posted by mike_311:

are you against the protestors or the police firing on them?

I blame the religious and political organizations. The humans are just sheep on two different sides of a fence that they did not create, and are apparently quite oblivious to being used as pawns.

I don't blame the police or the "protesters" (by the way, calling these people protesters is like calling Jeffrey Dahmer a gastronome), but rather the forces that drive them to these actions. It's sickening and sad to watch.

JamesDowning

Sony SLT-A33

09/14/2012 01:38:01 PM · #96

So, who do you want me to defend?

09/14/2012 01:39:57 PM · #97

it is sad,

i really see no hope for improvement, they clearly need to start thinking for themselves over there, but that comes with education and what incentive do the governments have to actually want that considering they can have their people revolt and claim they had no idea or control over them.