Nikon D600 release - DPChallenge Forums

Sigma 24-35mm f/2.0 DG HSM A

09/13/2012 12:48:09 AM · #2

Interesting.
Wonder if there will be a crop DX00 series camera at all. This looks like a D90 with a fx sensor.

Estimated street price of $2000
CNET

Still not listed on Adorama or B&H or Amazon.

dmadden

Canon EOS-40D

09/13/2012 12:53:41 AM · #3

Waits impatiently on Canon to get off their ass o_0

09/13/2012 01:05:45 AM · #4

I will wait a few months and then I'll decide if this one will be my new body. Can't compare with a D800, but it could be the beginning of my full frame era :)

Some unfortunate omissions to keep the price down, too...

09/13/2012 06:53:54 AM · #5

Canon RF 24-70mm f/2.8 L IS

09/13/2012 07:52:35 AM · #6

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Some unfortunate omissions to keep the price down, too...

These are the reasons that will keep me waiting from buying...

Surely better than my D7000, but at the same time some features are worse than my DX camera.

kirbic

Canon EOS R5

09/13/2012 10:00:58 AM · #7

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:

Some unfortunate omissions to keep the price down, too...

I don't think the sync speed reduction was a cost-driven choice. I agree with one of the commenters on your linked blog post; high sync speeds imply an electronic shutter, like some of the Nikon DLSRs used. It's nice for balancing flash, but heck on image quality in general. Seems like moving away from that is a good move, even though it does reduce sync speed.

Nikon MF Micro-Nikkor 85mm f/2.8D PC

09/13/2012 03:07:31 PM · #8

Honestly, so long as I remember how to make my flash shoot as fast as I damn well want it to, I don't think I'll lose too much sleep. Price is I think 1/2 of what the D800 is, and 24.3 and 5.5 fps sound pretty good to me. Sadly I would lose my 18-200 and Siggy, but don't plan to ditch the D90 in a hurry, so might cling on to them. Wondering though if the shutter is still only up to 1/4000 or does it actually go to 1/8000, like Canon has for all these years?

ETA: Just answered my own question on shutter speed....aw, crap!!!!! WTF is wrong with Nikon?! Why can't or won't they go to 1/8000?!

*stomping off to sulk*

Message edited by author 2012-09-13 15:14:49.

chazoe

Nikon Z7 FX

09/13/2012 04:06:08 PM · #9

Originally posted by snaffles:

My D700 goes to 1/8000th.

09/13/2012 04:33:16 PM · #10

1/200 for the flash sync is much worse than 1/4000 on the shutter speed. I never shot at 1/8000, but a lot of times with flash at 1/320 :/

09/13/2012 05:32:18 PM · #11

Nice video taken with 3 D600 :)

09/13/2012 06:49:07 PM · #12

Originally posted by chazoe:

Originally posted by snaffles:
Honestly, so long as I remember how to make my flash shoot as fast as I damn well want it to, I don't think I'll lose too much sleep. Price is I think 1/2 of what the D800 is, and 24.3 and 5.5 fps sound pretty good to me. Sadly I would lose my 18-200 and Siggy, but don't plan to ditch the D90 in a hurry, so might cling on to them. Wondering though if the shutter is still only up to 1/4000 or does it actually go to 1/8000, like Canon has for all these years?

ETA: Just answered my own question on shutter speed....aw, crap!!!!! WTF is wrong with Nikon?! Why can't or won't they go to 1/8000?!

*stomping off to sulk*

My D700 goes to 1/8000th.

Yes, normally all of the DX00 cams go to 1/8000 and have a more robust (rated for more cycles) shutter. Always have. Like I said... this camera is a fx DX0

As for the cost cutting, I was more referring to the lack of a sync hookup, which they've begun doing on flashes as well as on camera bodies (D7000). It's disappointing because up until this point that was one of the awesome things about Nikon- very cheap or out of the box off camera flash control. Canon has historically forced you to purchase more gear and put out more effort, and now it is looking as though Nikon is following suit, which sucks.

Also, it will be curious to see if the sync speed is ACTUALLY 1/200, or if it's ACTUALLY 1/160 or so like with many of the 5d's, which can have a variance in their sync, much to the frustration of various photographers. And the new mini 10 pin sucks because it means that you'll have to use special equipment that is particular to that body to fire it, so integrating it into your system of triggering if you use a D800, D3, D3s, D3x, D4, D300, D200, D100 or plenty of others means you'll need a separate way of attaching anything to the D600. It's just annoying when camera mfg's make you buy additional stuff, and further illustrates that this camera is simply made as an entry level FX. In some ways that's cool, and in some ways it's kinda frustrating for those of us who don't necessarily feel like we want to go with the mpix of the D800.

Whereas the Dx00 series used to be a middle ground between the Dx0 and the Dx, it is now difficult or impossible to say where or if that middle ground exists anymore.

ETA: I forgot to note that I am happy that the D600 DOES do exposure compensation in a fashion more like Canon than my D300, and that's more than welcomed. Only being able to do +/-1 EV has always frustrated the heck out of me.

Message edited by author 2012-09-13 18:55:19.

09/13/2012 06:58:55 PM · #13

*taking deep breath*

Well, to be fair to Nikon the D600 is being marketed as an entry-level fullframe. And I definitely like the price tag.

However *smoke trickling from ears* if the D700 can go to 1/8000th...WTF would they NOT incorporate that into all their fullframe bodies? Why on earth would they want to a) limit themselves esp when people who lean more towards wildlife and action photography, and b) give the bf all the more reason to encourage me to go Canon, which has had that capability since 1992?!!

AAAAAHHHHH!!!! *boom*

09/13/2012 07:00:53 PM · #14

double post

Message edited by author 2012-09-13 19:04:22.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

09/13/2012 07:01:12 PM · #15

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Message edited by author 2012-09-13 19:02:15.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

09/13/2012 07:59:46 PM · #16

Originally posted by snaffles:

Weird.......both my D200 and my D7000 do 1/8000.....

vikas

Apple iPhone 13

Nikon AF-S DX Nikkor 35mm f/1.8G

09/13/2012 09:00:34 PM · #17

This was cool!

Originally posted by Alexkc:

Nice video taken with 3 D600 :)

IAmEliKatz

Nikon D5

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 70-200mm f/2.8G ED VR II

09/13/2012 11:47:50 PM · #18

1/200 Sync and no Sync jack.. Waiting for a D7000.

Nikon AF-S Nikkor 28-300mm f3.5-5.6G ED VR

09/14/2012 07:37:10 AM · #19

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:

1/200 Sync and no Sync jack.. Waiting for a D7000.

+1 Seeing how badly they fucked this up, ditto. I'm in no real hurry to go full frame but didn't want to settle for a D7000.

NikonJeb

Nikon D850

09/14/2012 07:42:23 AM · #20

Originally posted by snaffles:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:
1/200 Sync and no Sync jack.. Waiting for a D7000.

+1 Seeing how badly they fucked this up, ditto. I'm in no real hurry to go full frame but didn't want to settle for a D7000.

Before you say "settle", try a D7000....

09/14/2012 08:09:59 AM · #21

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Originally posted by snaffles:

Originally posted by IAmEliKatz:
1/200 Sync and no Sync jack.. Waiting for a D7000.

+1 Seeing how badly they fucked this up, ditto. I'm in no real hurry to go full frame but didn't want to settle for a D7000.

Before you say "settle", try a D7000....

Yeah, and I don't mean to say that because of what I noted it's a horrible camera by any stretch, but I just wish they had a middle ground between the two. Between the D600, D800, and the D4, it's a bit of an odd mix...

09/15/2012 11:53:22 AM · #22

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

To be fair, I have yet to try a D7k myself. However a year ago I was 2nd camera at a wedding where the 1st camera was a d7K...and it seized up in the middle of the ceremony, minutes before the kiss. Me and the D90 had to come to the rescue. And the reason the D7k seized was apparently perspiration from the photog's hands. So seeing that it's meant to be weather-sealed, I was not too impressed.

Since my last post, Red has patiently explained camera math to me, so I have to admit I am now back on track to looking at the D600. Even if it does mean I'd have to replace Siggy :-(