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08/03/2012 06:20:48 PM · #1 |
Dear friends,
I was more or less convinced to change mt pc to a 27ﾃつｴiMac (4GB Ram + 1TB HDD + i5 processor)when I decided to see what pc I would buy for the same money.
And for a bit less money you can buy a really nice premium pc.
I've got about 1500ﾃ｢つｬ for this personalized configuration:
Asus Sabertooth Z77 motherboard
700w Corsair gaming power suply
Nox Coolbay VX box
Asus GTX 560 1GB GDDR5 graphic card with 2x HDMI output (I have two HP 24ﾃつｴmonitors)
32GB Ram Ripjaw-X DDR3 1600
Intel i5 3570K 3.4Ghz 6MB (can be overclocked to 4.0ghz) processor
one SSD harddrive with 120 GB for the OS
one 2TB hard drive WD Caviar Green 64GB (I will put also 2x 1.5 TB hardd drive that I have already)
What do you think of this configuration? For the benchmarks that I've read this should outperform the basic Imac I was about to buy... do you think so? Am I doing a good choice over the mac?
My major doubt is th eprocessor. The alternative is a i7 2600 3.4 Ghz. Would I see any increase performance with this? Are there any other choises that don't break the bank?
Any opinions or advices are most welcome.
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08/03/2012 06:44:08 PM · #2 |
um yeah, i think it should perform just fine. :)
might as well throw win8 on it form the start. |
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08/03/2012 06:50:00 PM · #3 |
If you are going to toss that much memory in, use the 64 bit architecture.
Have you thought of putting a second static drive in for your OS and use the 2TB monster for your data? |
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08/03/2012 07:49:30 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
If you are going to toss that much memory in, use the 64 bit architecture.
Have you thought of putting a second static drive in for your OS and use the 2TB monster for your data? |
I will be using the 120gb ssd for the OS and program instalation.
Is Windows 8 already avaiable?
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08/03/2012 08:00:38 PM · #5 |
The main thing for I5 or I7 is hyperthreading, in multitasking or video editing it can give you 20-30% boost. But on older programs it can slow you down if enabled.
Either way its gonna be a nice rig :) |
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08/03/2012 08:08:23 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Nuno:
Is Windows 8 already avaiable? |
It has been released to manufacturing, so the guys who build the hardware can do whatever tweaks needed on thier systems before release, but Microsoft is done with it. Many new systems are including a free upgrade to 8 with purchase. It is due our in late October.
Message edited by author 2012-08-03 20:11:03. |
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08/04/2012 03:51:43 AM · #7 |
| 5 years down the line your imac will still be running fine and usable even with 100mb files from the lastest canon or nikon offering wheres as your pc will have died a death ad be tangled down by the registrty and viruses haha |
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08/04/2012 08:18:19 AM · #8 |
Originally posted by Giles_uk:
5 years down the line your imac will still be running fine and usable even with 100mb files from the lastest canon or nikon offering wheres as your pc will have died a death ad be tangled down by the registrty and viruses haha |
I wish people would quit perpetuating this stuff. I have a work laptop running WinXP 32-bit that runs as well as the day the OS was loaded over 4 years ago. It gets re-booted only when updates are applied, otherwise it runs mostly 24/7.
I have a Win7 Desktop that has an OS installation that dates back (through upgrades) to WinXP. It too runs 24/7, and is rarely rebooted.
The truth is that the "death by registry" issues went out with Win98.
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08/04/2012 08:32:19 AM · #9 |
To the OP:
- If you can go with the i7, I'd do it. Get the 2600K, which is unlocked, making overclocking easier.
- You might look into a workstation graphics card instead of the gaming-oriented card you have selected. The workstation cards draw a fraction of the power and perform very well, but there are give-backs. They are not that great for gaming, if that''s important to you. The workstation cards excel at putting high-quality output to high-resolution monitors. Look at the nVidia Quadro series, if yoiu have interest.
- I see you're using HSMI for output... are you using television monitors? If so, be aware that they work OK as computer monitors, but they tend to not be good for critical work. Color accuracy is a problem and worse, they tend to do funny things like try to "sharpen" the output they receive.
- 32GB of RAM might be overkill unless you know that you will need this much for some application. I'm running on 8, with plans to go to 16, but I don't foresee needing anything like 32 for years.
- An SSD drive is a great idea. Make sure you keep 30% or more free to ensure that wear leveling can work properly. 120GB may not be big enough if you plan on installing apps on this drive as well.
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08/04/2012 12:18:56 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
I wish people would quit perpetuating this stuff. |
+1!!!!
Besides, Giles, Apple can no longer claim to be "virus free". |
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08/04/2012 01:21:49 PM · #11 |
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08/04/2012 02:47:55 PM · #12 |
| My PC has outlasted my wife's and my daughter's Apples. There is no mythos in brands, just technology, and Fritz is such a guru I knew he would chime in and make all the right recommendations. |
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08/04/2012 04:18:25 PM · #13 |
Rather than hardware I would focus on the operating system you want to use. For example you might be much more comfortable on a windows PC but a large portion of professional graphics are done with Mac's.
So the question is do you want to learn the industry standard? (Is it even worth learning)
Or stick with "tried and true"?
If you do go windows, I agree with Kirbic, the i7-2600k is extremely cheap for the power it delivers. When I bought mine it was $300 but it's performance matched and even beat some of the $1000 CPUs. I'm really not sure why anyone would pick an i5 over an i7. |
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08/04/2012 04:39:36 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by jadin:
Rather than hardware I would focus on the operating system you want to use. For example you might be much more comfortable on a windows PC but a large portion of professional graphics are done with Mac's.
So the question is do you want to learn the industry standard? (Is it even worth learning)
Or stick with "tried and true"? |
That is changing fast. My experience may be unique (mostly animation related), but Linux leads the pack now. In a distant 2nd is windows boxes, with Mac's trailing both of them.
All the primary artist tools are available on all platforms. |
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08/04/2012 04:47:31 PM · #15 |
| I use both Mac and PC, I have no preference either way. If I had to choose only one I'd probaly choose an iMac because of the package more than anything else. |
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08/04/2012 05:02:13 PM · #16 |
Sounds like a killer system, in fact a bit of overkill on some specs for photo editing.
Macs and PC's both have their good points and bad points. I primarily use a Windows machines, but also do Mac. There are certainly some areas where the Mac frustrates me and I find Windows superior. Other things the Mac excels in. If you are already invested in Windows software, it would be expensive to switch to a Mac. Not unlike switching from Canon to Nikon.
I like building my own systems and am a cheapskate thrifty, so I stick with Windows.
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08/04/2012 08:48:03 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by jadin:
Rather than hardware I would focus on the operating system you want to use. For example you might be much more comfortable on a windows PC but a large portion of professional graphics are done with Mac's.
So the question is do you want to learn the industry standard? (Is it even worth learning)
Or stick with "tried and true"?
If you do go windows, I agree with Kirbic, the i7-2600k is extremely cheap for the power it delivers. When I bought mine it was $300 but it's performance matched and even beat some of the $1000 CPUs. I'm really not sure why anyone would pick an i5 over an i7. |
I will be using Windows 7 ultimate 64 bits.
The i2600k isnﾃつｴt for the boar I've choosen. It doesn't fit. The equivalent should be the i7-3770k, the new Ivy Bridge one. This is a quad core with 8 virtual ones also. The i5-3570k is also quad core but with another four virtual ones if I'm not mistaken. Also the cha is diuferent. In the i7 is 8MB and 6MB in the i5. The price difference between them is almost 120ﾃ｢つｬ. For me to buy the i7 I will only get 16gb of ram instead of 32 as I wanted.
One of the reasons that one migh tthought ot go with this particular i5-3570k is the overclocking. If you compare it with the regular i7, not the k version it can really be much better in tasks depending one cpu speed, as it can be driven with proper ventilation to 5.0ghz. In some benchmarks I've seen it even pass the i7 3770k because this can o"nly" be run at 4.8ghz. I think this will matter in video rendering and photo editing in PS for example, or even when exporting large batch of files in LR, because these actions are very cpu dependent. But for example to deal with large batch of files for editing or in LR probably the ram would help.
I think the only clear advantage in the i7 is if you don't want to mess with the cpu overclocking. That way you ger more "juice" out of the i7 straight from the box, or in heavy multitasking, when you have tons of programs running at the same time.
I'm thinking in getting the i5 and overclock it to 4.4 or something like that keeping it in the safe side.
But you can try to convince me untill monday to go with the i7 :)
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08/04/2012 09:11:10 PM · #18 |
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08/04/2012 11:17:42 PM · #19 |
Yeah looks like the i7-3770k is the same price the i7-2600k was almost a year ago. So that'd be my recommendation.
Intel Core i7-3770K @ 3.50GHz 10,361
Intel Core i5-3570 @ 3.40GHz 7,829
//www.cpubenchmark.net/high_end_cpus.html
One thing to consider is RAM is very easy to upgrade after the fact. CPU, while physically easy, is not financially as smooth.
I'm not big on overclocking but I'm guessing the i7-3770k is just as overclockable as it's predecessor was. |
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