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07/26/2012 02:44:10 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
yeah, i was hoping for the long exposure during the day angle. |
That would have to include pinholes as well. Not a bad idea, though. |
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07/26/2012 02:50:03 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
Originally posted by Cory:
Arguably not a portrait. At least not in the classic sense of the word. |
If you want variety in challenges, don't go about saying things like this... |
Creativity in the CREATION of the challenges... But if a photographic term is used, then follow what that term means.
If I propose a shallow DOF challenge, and I get photos with sharp everything? Yeah. Boom. DNMC, sorry boss. If I ask for a portrait, and I get environmental shots that happen to include a model who's face is nearly invisible? Dude, that's not even arguably CLOSE to a portrait.
ETA:
I think we're just using different definitions of creative... For you it seems to mean rule breaker, for me it means staying within the rules, but in unexpected ways. That's all. And I tend to use words rather precisely, so if I say portrait, you can darn well bet I didn't mean full body environmental shot.
Message edited by author 2012-07-26 14:52:20. |
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07/26/2012 03:24:28 PM · #28 |
| Enough of these wide open challenges...how about the "UWA lens on a full frame camera, at 1830H +/- 30 minutes and within 10 kilometers of 38 U 476822 492611 (WGS84)" challenge. |
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07/26/2012 03:33:47 PM · #29 |
If the challenge was "portrait but NOT environmental or full body", I'm all with you. Otherwise it's a portrait that you can certainly vote lower because you don't think there's enough emphasis on the face, but to say, "this is not a portrait" is just haughty verbage. I see a picture of a person supported by the ambiance of the surroundings and without secondary subjects. To me, that meets the general definition of a portrait.
The point is not to argue about the definition, but to say that if we go about with such talk then don't complain when a "shallow DOF portrait" challenge is 50 variations of someone's face with the eyes sharp and nothing else. |
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07/26/2012 08:59:03 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Spork99:
Enough of these wide open challenges...how about the "UWA lens on a full frame camera, at 1830H +/- 30 minutes and within 10 kilometers of 38 U 476822 492611 (WGS84)" challenge. |
Lose the location, and I'd be all in... (12-24 on a 5D counts right? ;) ).. |
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07/26/2012 09:02:25 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If the challenge was "portrait but NOT environmental or full body", I'm all with you. Otherwise it's a portrait that you can certainly vote lower because you don't think there's enough emphasis on the face, but to say, "this is not a portrait" is just haughty verbage. I see a picture of a person supported by the ambiance of the surroundings and without secondary subjects. To me, that meets the general definition of a portrait.
The point is not to argue about the definition, but to say that if we go about with such talk then don't complain when a "shallow DOF portrait" challenge is 50 variations of someone's face with the eyes sharp and nothing else. |
I might vote highly for a pic with only the mouth in focus, or perhaps the ear only. It's just a matter of creativity, that's exactly what I'm talking about - if you want to show me eyes only, at least go with some props, unique looks, makeup, etc....
My point is that while the gross effect would be similar images, if executed well that makes voting a real pleasure for me, because then I'm able to really see who did the best with their work, not just who managed to choose the best subject.
*shrug* Just my opinion for sure. |
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07/27/2012 01:33:51 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by DrAchoo:
If the challenge was "portrait but NOT environmental or full body", I'm all with you. Otherwise it's a portrait that you can certainly vote lower because you don't think there's enough emphasis on the face, but to say, "this is not a portrait" is just haughty verbage. I see a picture of a person supported by the ambiance of the surroundings and without secondary subjects. To me, that meets the general definition of a portrait.
The point is not to argue about the definition, but to say that if we go about with such talk then don't complain when a "shallow DOF portrait" challenge is 50 variations of someone's face with the eyes sharp and nothing else. |
How about just their fingernails in focus?
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07/27/2012 01:59:12 AM · #33 |
Originally posted by Cory:
PS. For those who may want to complain about restricting creativity: I would invite you to express your great creativity through the suggestion of creatively specific challenges. Black dog with a white cat riding on a brown horse challenge anyone? ;) |
How bout rat on cat on dog?? just saying  |
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07/27/2012 01:45:19 PM · #34 |
| Ok so the cat is not white but still.... |
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07/27/2012 01:53:49 PM · #35 |
Originally posted by FtWorthphotog:
Originally posted by Cory:
PS. For those who may want to complain about restricting creativity: I would invite you to express your great creativity through the suggestion of creatively specific challenges. Black dog with a white cat riding on a brown horse challenge anyone? ;) |
How bout rat on cat on dog?? just saying |
Dang, that's impressive!
I really was trying to find something impossible, and I feel your trade of rat for horse is fair enough.
Well done. :) |
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