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06/10/2012 01:44:50 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by cosmicassassin: If some people spent the same amount of time on their entry for a challenge as opposed to bitching about the rule set, I'm pretty sure the rule set wouldn't matter to complete their vision (excluding gyaban, but he's never complained of the rule set in place).
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Yes he has expressed his opinion, I've heard it from him in both forums and by him personally.
I'm pretty sure he does not care for either basic or minimal rule sets. |
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06/10/2012 04:09:34 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by sjhuls: I won't be entering this one, I'm afraid basic is just not right for the challenge topic. Such a shame it's such a fun topic too. |
+1 :(
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06/10/2012 04:58:58 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by JustFred: I'm looking forward to see how creative Gyaban can be using only the basic rules.
By the way I looked at some of the titles of Bradbury's books and although some of the titles are descriptive in themselves I think that
with most one will need to read the story so as to be able to create an image that relates to or occurs within that particular story. If you know what I mean. |
I've been re-reading some of Bradbury's stories during the past few days. It's been quite a trip.
You're right about the picture often being in the story line, rather than in the title.
Sadly, in our group, if the voter is not familiar with the story line, it'll probably mean a DNMC.
And Basic works well for Bradbury's material. |
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06/10/2012 07:05:47 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by sfalice: Originally posted by JustFred: I'm looking forward to see how creative Gyaban can be using only the basic rules.
By the way I looked at some of the titles of Bradbury's books and although some of the titles are descriptive in themselves I think that
with most one will need to read the story so as to be able to create an image that relates to or occurs within that particular story. If you know what I mean. |
I've been re-reading some of Bradbury's stories during the past few days. It's been quite a trip.
You're right about the picture often being in the story line, rather than in the title.
Sadly, in our group, if the voter is not familiar with the story line, it'll probably mean a DNMC.
And Basic works well for Bradbury's material. |
Indeed it does |
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06/12/2012 09:42:16 PM · #30 |
There's no way we have time to read all his stories, I'm just making my photo fit with a title, but not the story, what are others doing, not many entries in this one, but there are ways to use our imagination to fit a title.
Thoughts??? |
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06/12/2012 09:52:02 PM · #31 |
Originally posted by sjhuls: I won't be entering this one, I'm afraid basic is just not right for the challenge topic. Such a shame it's such a fun topic too. |
there has been a growing habit of killing the few fun topics with bad editing rule sets lately. hopefully it changes, i fear it wont and that's a shame.
i have bitched enough on the subject and I'm on permanent protest. i am going to relegate myself to the side challenges only starting in a few days. i am tired of waiting for a good topic to come around and be disappointed.
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06/12/2012 10:02:13 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by mike_311: Originally posted by sjhuls: I won't be entering this one, I'm afraid basic is just not right for the challenge topic. Such a shame it's such a fun topic too. |
there has been a growing habit of killing the few fun topics with bad editing rule sets lately. hopefully it changes, i fear it wont and that's a shame.
i have bitched enough on the subject and I'm on permanent protest. i am going to relegate myself to the side challenges only starting in a few days. i am tired of waiting for a good topic to come around and be disappointed. |
There are some challenges that are best matched with the editing set...take the Superpowers II challenge. Mike, I know you got all fired up for that one. But I will agree with you that this particular challenge would be a far better fit for Advanced or Expert IMHO. |
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06/12/2012 10:06:26 PM · #33 |
I'm not sure I will have time to enter, but if I do my entry will be based on a title rather than the actual story. |
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06/12/2012 10:07:28 PM · #34 |
Originally posted by CNovack:
There are some challenges that are best matched with the editing set...take the Superpowers II challenge. Mike, I know you got all fired up for that one. But I will agree with you that this particular challenge would be a far better fit for Advanced or Expert IMHO. |
it would a be far better fit if it was just advanced editing and yeah i know there is no real difference in setting up the shot.
i just cant get up the motivation to enter a lackluster image, i have more important things to concern myself with it. |
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06/13/2012 10:54:01 AM · #35 |
It's a great challenge topic with many possibilities. The Basic ruleset is rigorous and does shift the emphasis to image capture quality and composition and camera skills. That IS what makes it challenging. |
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06/13/2012 11:13:02 AM · #36 |
Originally posted by hahn23: It's a great challenge topic with many possibilities. The Basic ruleset is rigorous and does shift the emphasis to image capture quality and composition and camera skills. That IS what makes it challenging. |
sigh. what is it with this misconception that basic editing is the bastion savior of all things pure with photography?
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06/13/2012 03:26:53 PM · #37 |
Originally posted by mike_311: Originally posted by hahn23: It's a great challenge topic with many possibilities. The Basic ruleset is rigorous and does shift the emphasis to image capture quality and composition and camera skills. That IS what makes it challenging. |
sigh. what is it with this misconception that basic editing is the bastion savior of all things pure with photography? |
I don't think that's what I said. Your characterization of my words is quite unfair and inaccurate. Sorry I didn't respond immediately to your post. I was out in the wilderness for the past three hours with my camera gear. Time well spent, I might add, as I acquired good images for at least three challenges. One of the things I enjoy about DPC is it gets me out shooting on a regular basis. |
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06/13/2012 07:20:01 PM · #38 |
Drat. I can't find a single link to Bradbury + squirrel :(
oooh! Found one!
But then I also found this article in the onion -- I was really concerned about this. I'm glad that they worked it out!
U.S. Renews Contract With Spotted Ground Squirrels Through 2015
Message edited by author 2012-06-13 19:24:19.
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06/13/2012 07:40:30 PM · #39 |
Originally posted by mike_311: Originally posted by hahn23: It's a great challenge topic with many possibilities. The Basic ruleset is rigorous and does shift the emphasis to image capture quality and composition and camera skills. That IS what makes it challenging. |
sigh. what is it with this misconception that basic editing is the bastion savior of all things pure with photography? |
Why is it that everyone always seems to overlook the the "C" in DPC stands for challenge ...? :-(
As long as everyone has to play by the same rule set, what's the problem with determining who takes the "best" photo that week?
FWIW I expect my entry to score below 4.2 -- BFD ... it meets the topic, and I got to try out a new technique/idea, which may not have worked out so well this time, but which gives me valuable information about how to approach the technique in the future.
People (especially the DNMC crowd) love to compare the challenges to a "magazine assignment" as if the editor would expect to publish your first draft as-is ... I tend to look at the challenge entries as "first drafts" to see if the overall idea is considered worthy of pursuing further refinement, unconstrained by the limits of a deadline, rule set, weather, model availability, etc.... |
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06/13/2012 08:02:03 PM · #40 |
Originally posted by vawendy: Is there a mistake here? I don't quite get basic editing for this challenge.
Even if people wanted to avoid expert editing, it still would have been fun to get some really creative, funky shots that tried to fool the viewer. That's almost impossible in basic editing.
Please -- can we rethink this and at least change it to advanced editing? What a shame for such a wonderful challenge to be so limited. |
I soo aggree with you vawendy
OMG you seriously found a way to incorporate a squirrel.... "The Martian Chronicles" Squirrels with little antenna's comming from their heads?? "My Favorite MartainSquirrel"
So how can I incorporate my disaster remodleing mess????? :^) |
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06/13/2012 08:06:45 PM · #41 |
Basic editing.
Message edited by author 2012-06-13 20:07:18. |
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06/13/2012 08:36:34 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by LanndonKane:
Basic editing. |
You've been gone too long. There's been discussions that shannon's picture wouldnt pass basic editing rules now. :) |
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06/13/2012 08:43:08 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by vawendy: Originally posted by LanndonKane:
Basic editing. |
You've been gone too long. There's been discussions that shannon's picture wouldnt pass basic editing rules now. :) |
Cya! |
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06/13/2012 08:44:56 PM · #44 |
seriously though:
also basic.
im picking on scalvert because he's just one badass mofo when it comes to these baby's. |
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06/13/2012 08:51:21 PM · #45 |
Bradbury - You know, he didn't use or describe anything so strange that a reader couldn't find it on, for example,
the kitchen table or in the garage.
With even the tiniest bit of research, even if a DPCer had not read him,
Bradbury could be virtually a Free Study.
Clark? Heinleim? L. Sprague De Camp, Clifford Simak, oh and many other "old guys" and my heroes, used props, and used them well, in telling their stories. Ray Bradbury used what was in the neighborhood.
You bet I'm in. I may end up low on the totem pole, but I'm in.
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06/13/2012 09:06:27 PM · #46 |
//www.RayBradbury.com/
I had two great ideas from books and short stories of his that I've read. Both worked out, but I'll choose the one which means the most to me.
âLife is "trying things to see if they work."â
Ray Bradbury |
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06/13/2012 09:11:18 PM · #47 |
Originally posted by LanndonKane: seriously though:
also basic.
im picking on scalvert because he's just one badass mofo when it comes to these baby's. |
Yup. Shannon's an excellent example. |
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06/13/2012 09:31:21 PM · #48 |
that shot would also need to be done in advanced editing.
basic editing serves no purpose, say it with me... |
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06/13/2012 09:36:30 PM · #49 |
My shot is in, and well..........!!
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06/13/2012 09:54:01 PM · #50 |
Originally posted by mike_311: that shot would also need to be done in advanced editing.
basic editing serves no purpose, say it with me... |
Except that it is a C h a l l e n g e.
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