My Scores are MINIMAL by a WIDE margin

06/10/2012 10:10:58 AM · #51

Originally posted by chazoe:

What is really DNMC though? "Take a picture with the widest lens in your bag" IMHO the challenge description essentially means there is no DNMC. I took my shot at 28mm. I wonder if that's not considered wide enough for some folks? Not singling you out Juli, just curious what others interpretations of the challenge are.

Beat me to it Kris, imo this is rather like a FS, nobody can see in your camera bag and if 28mm is your widest lens then it cannot be a dnmc shot. Sadly I think voters want to see ultra wide.

Nikon MF Micro-Nikkor 85mm f/2.8D PC

06/10/2012 10:14:41 AM · #52

To tell the truth I don't see it as a FS, but at the same time I've only seen a couple of DNMC images.

If your widest lens is a 50mm. you can't hope to submit it and win. But 28mm. is enough to consider it a wide angle.

chazoe

Nikon Z7 FX

06/10/2012 10:34:14 AM · #53

I wonder if the folks who entered a portrait orientation are getting especially hammered?

I'm sitting at a 5.9 and I really think my shot is better than that. Trust me I usually am stoked for a 5.9, it's .7 better than my average, but this one I really thought was a 6+ shot and now I wonder if it's just not wide looking enough.

ETA, this really makes me wish I could afford the 14-24mm. :(

Message edited by author 2012-06-10 10:39:10.

LandzEnca

Samsung TL500

Sony SAL-16105 DT 16-105mm

06/10/2012 10:43:20 AM · #54

If your widest is a 28 then it's not a DNMC. To me, it perfectly fits the challenge. Some voters may consider it wide enough, but then again, some may not.

I'd say your chances of winning the challenge with a 28 is analogous to entering a gun battle where one is required to bring his biggest gun, and your biggest gun is a tiny little pistol... Sure you can join, and maybe you can actually win. Best of luck :)

Venser

Olympus OM-D E-M1 Mark II

Olympus 40-150mm f/2.8 PRO M.Zuiko

06/10/2012 11:05:19 AM · #55

Originally posted by chazoe:

As someone who's a literalist concerning the challenge description, and not afraid to dish out low votes, this one can not have any DNMCs. I almost bought a 400mm f/2.8 earlier this week. My widest lens in the bag would have been 400mm. According to the challenge description, that would have been acceptable.

Originally posted by Alexkc:

To tell the truth I don't see it as a FS, but at the same time I've only seen a couple of DNMC images.
If your widest lens is a 50mm. you can't hope to submit it and win. But 28mm. is enough to consider it a wide angle.

As a DNMC nazi, I'd like to know which entries don't meet the challenge description. As long as you shot it at the widest of whatever lens was on your camera, technically it has to meet the challenge description.

CS

Message edited by author 2012-06-10 11:09:18.

06/10/2012 11:15:39 AM · #56

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Originally posted by chazoe:

What is really DNMC though? "Take a picture with the widest lens in your bag" IMHO the challenge description essentially means there is no DNMC. I took my shot at 28mm. I wonder if that's not considered wide enough for some folks? Not singling you out Juli, just curious what others interpretations of the challenge are.

As someone who's a literalist concerning the challenge description, and not afraid to dish out low votes, this one can not have any DNMCs. I almost bought a 400mm f/2.8 earlier this week. My widest lens in the bag would have been 400mm. According to the challenge description, that would have been acceptable.

Originally posted by Alexkc:
To tell the truth I don't see it as a FS, but at the same time I've only seen a couple of DNMC images.
If your widest lens is a 50mm. you can't hope to submit it and win. But 28mm. is enough to consider it a wide angle.

As a DNMC nazi, I'd like to know which entries don't meet the challenge description. As long as you shot it at the widest of whatever lens was on your camera, technically it has to meet the challenge description.

The problem is that sometimes we read TOO carefully the challenge description. Ok, the challenge description sucks, but everyone knows what is the meaning of wide angle. A 300mm. is not a wide angle, even if it's your widest lens in your bag ;)

06/10/2012 11:28:40 AM · #57

Originally posted by Alexkc:

Which is what confuses me, would it be easier if dpc dropped the rather vague description in all challenges? for the second time in a month I agree with CS and others. I shot at 17mm on a 1.3 crop body and if I had taken (say) 20 steps backwards it would have 'appeared' to be a wider image but not what I had intended. Am looking forward to seeing my vote distribution.

06/10/2012 11:34:52 AM · #58

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by Alexkc:

The problem is that sometimes we read TOO carefully the challenge description. Ok, the challenge description sucks, but everyone knows what is the meaning of wide angle. A 300mm. is not a wide angle, even if it's your widest lens in your bag ;)

Which is what confuses me, would it be easier if dpc dropped the rather vague description in all challenges?

I agree with you. Much better without this kind of descriptions. At least for this kind of challenges. In any case I have seen very few 'not wide' entries here, so I don't see any reason for the DNMC votes..

JuliBoc

Apple iPhone 6s+

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

06/10/2012 01:10:09 PM · #59

Originally posted by chazoe:

Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Stats: You have rated 130 of 130 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 4.8462.

One of my lowest ave. scores. That was mainly because I was harsh on the DNMCs. I agree there were some wonderful shots in this challenge. I gave:

7-10s
6-9s
8-8s
7-7s

What is really DNMC though? "Take a picture with the widest lens in your bag" IMHO the challenge description essentially means there is no DNMC. I took my shot at 28mm. I wonder if that's not considered wide enough for some folks? Not singling you out Juli, just curious what others interpretations of the challenge are.

You're absolutely correct. I posted this in the wrong thread. Sorry to cause confusion. Actually my average score given for this challenge was well over 6.

JuliBoc

Apple iPhone 6s+

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

06/10/2012 01:20:12 PM · #60

Wow, I really am sorry to have caused all this needless discussion. Please forgive me, and forget about it. I shouldn't have posted before I had my morning coffee. No DNMCs from me in the Wide Angle challenge.

06/10/2012 01:28:31 PM · #61

Originally posted by JuliBoc:

lol Juli and nope, think this 'discussion' has been brewing since voting commenced lol. That said methinks many voters are seeing 'dnmc' shots.

06/10/2012 09:27:26 PM · #62

Only two votes during the last 20 hours! Ok, it's Sunday but...

06/11/2012 06:12:34 AM · #63

Originally posted by Alexkc:

Only two votes during the last 20 hours! Ok, it's Sunday but...

lol, I doubled that with 4 votes in 24 hours!

06/11/2012 06:21:49 AM · #64

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

Originally posted by Alexkc:
Only two votes during the last 20 hours! Ok, it's Sunday but...

lol, I doubled that with 4 votes in 24 hours!

Lucky man... LOL :)

Nikon MF Micro-Nikkor 85mm f/2.8D PC

06/11/2012 08:36:52 AM · #65

That said the last 3 votes have been 4's and just one vote thus far today.

chazoe

Nikon Z7 FX

06/11/2012 09:36:40 AM · #66

Originally posted by Ecce Signum:

That said the last 3 votes have been 4's and just one vote thus far today.

I don't know what it is about this challenge but this has been the worst one in terms of voting. Is it the minimal ruleset?

Sony SAL-1855 DT 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6

06/11/2012 09:58:01 AM · #67

Originally posted by chazoe:

..... Is it the minimal ruleset?

Maybe though not sure why, people would choose not to vote on a minimal challenge.

Finally made it to the 50 vote check in - am sure I'd normally do that one day 2 (or sometimes 1) of voting and never done it on day 4 before.

Wide Angle II
Votes: 50
Views: 111
Avg Vote: 6.0800
Comments: 1

JamesDowning

Sony SLT-A33

06/11/2012 01:19:57 PM · #68

Originally posted by JamesDowning:

Just to make everyone feel a little better:

Votes: 11
Views: 36
Avg Vote: 3.3636

It would be appropriate for my personal worst to be a shot I actually like.

Quite the comeback:

Votes: 47
Views: 115
Avg Vote: 4.1277

Will this be my second brown ribbon?

Nikon AF-S DX Zoom-Nikkor 18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 ED

06/13/2012 05:48:24 PM · #69

Forget the 100 vote check-in I'm not sure I'll reach 75 votes at this rate.

RyanW

Nikon D7000

06/14/2012 01:59:41 PM · #70

Finally finished voting and commenting.
You have rated 85 of 85 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 85 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8000.

Hopefully people realize most of my comments are meant to be humorous (i stated that on a bunch, even went back and blind pasted a sentence on about 1/2 without checking if they were joke or serious comments).

JuliBoc

Apple iPhone 6s+

Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 USM

06/14/2012 02:06:33 PM · #71

Votes: 78
Views: 162
Avg Vote: 5.4872
Comments: 2

Dropped a bit today, but still solidly meh.