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06/04/2012 12:43:38 PM · #1 |
My hulk photo in the "superpower" challenge needs to be shown that it is valid...
Here's my problem.
I put in what I thought was an untouched photograph of my shot. But they said that it was "tagged by Windows software."
Am I screwed? The only thing I did was make a copy of the original so that I can edit the copied version. I no longer have it on an SD card as I have already formatted my card.
Here is my original untouched file that I submitted if that helps...
Am I doing something wrong? |
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06/04/2012 12:50:23 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
The only thing I did was make a copy of the original so that I can edit the copied version. |
But do you have the original of this copy on your computer? |
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06/04/2012 12:50:29 PM · #3 |
You can try to use some recovery software for the formatted SD card. Those usually work pretty well if the card hasn't been totally written over with new data.
Otherwise, you might have to chalk this one up to lessons learned.
In the future, use a card reader and copy the images over to your PC from the SD card. Do not use Windows to view the images. That is probably what tagged the file.
Also, look into shooting RAW. Those file cannot be modified simply by moving them or viewing them like jpgs can.
Good luck. |
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06/04/2012 12:52:31 PM · #4 |
When you "copy" a file you need to drag a copy from one window/folder to another -- I think if you use the "copy/paste" commands it will change the date. You should also use a card reader and drag the files fromt he card to the hard drive.
Even if you've re-formatted the card, data-recovery software may be able to recover the file -- it's worth a try. |
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06/04/2012 12:57:30 PM · #5 |
Believe it or not I am having a similar problem I can recover the file but it's corrupt - does anyone know of any software that might be able to perform a repair? The filesize is correct it just won't open in DPP or any other software.
ETA: Mines not with a tagged file, mines with a formatted card that someone used that had my only copy of an original RAW file on :( Looks like the file has been partially written over and it's damaged the file.
Message edited by author 2012-06-04 12:58:27. |
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06/04/2012 01:04:05 PM · #6 |
| For data recovery I have used this program - ZAR - multiple times and had success each time. It is free to use for digital photo recovery. |
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06/04/2012 01:06:53 PM · #7 |
I just googled a free software recovery... Got my image but we will see if it works.
Thanks for the help guys!
I'll update this thread when it either works or fails. Lol. |
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06/04/2012 01:09:59 PM · #8 |
I used ZAR actually Timfy thanks but the actual file is damaged :( Think I'm screwed basically...
Damn there goes a Red Ribbon :/ |
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06/04/2012 01:19:11 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
I just googled a free software recovery... Got my image but we will see if it works. |
It does. ;-) |
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06/04/2012 01:19:13 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Mark-A:
I used ZAR actually Timfy thanks but the actual file is damaged :( Think I'm screwed basically...
Damn there goes a Red Ribbon :/ |
1. Will the file open at all? (Sometimes the file will open but the image is mangled.)
2. Is the EXIF data intact?
If yes to both, I'd suggest still sending it in with a detailed explanation, and let SC decide whether it can still be considered a valid original -- it might not be, but there's no (further) penalty for trying ... |
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06/04/2012 01:20:04 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by mbrutus2009:
I just googled a free software recovery... Got my image but we will see if it works. |
It does. ;-) |
Wow -- fast work all around! |
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06/04/2012 01:22:01 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Wow -- fast work all around! |
This one called for a little extra effort. We do NOT want him getting angry. |
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06/04/2012 01:43:39 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by scalvert:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Wow -- fast work all around! |
This one called for a little extra effort. We do NOT want him getting angry. |
heheh! Nothing worse than a mean green machine!
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06/04/2012 01:44:03 PM · #14 |
Oh sweet! Lol.
Google is my best friend... And I don't think you would have liked me when I am angry...
;) |
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06/04/2012 01:44:46 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Mark-A:
I used ZAR actually Timfy thanks but the actual file is damaged :( Think I'm screwed basically...
Damn there goes a Red Ribbon :/ |
oh, common!! Get that file back! Your shot was the best in the challenge, and I want to keep my yellow. So get to work on trying those other programs!
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06/04/2012 01:47:06 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
When you "copy" a file you need to drag a copy from one window/folder to another -- I think if you use the "copy/paste" commands it will change the date. You should also use a card reader and drag the files fromt he card to the hard drive.
Even if you've re-formatted the card, data-recovery software may be able to recover the file -- it's worth a try. |
i "copy" the images from my SD card and "paste" them into the directory. if i have a good image going I'll copy the original again and paste to the folder where i keep the the image i submitted, so i can find it easily and to have a second backup in case i decide to further play with the original, never had a validation issue doing this. |
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06/04/2012 01:55:59 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
When you "copy" a file you need to drag a copy from one window/folder to another -- I think if you use the "copy/paste" commands it will change the date. You should also use a card reader and drag the files fromt he card to the hard drive.
Even if you've re-formatted the card, data-recovery software may be able to recover the file -- it's worth a try. |
i "copy" the images from my SD card and "paste" them into the directory. if i have a good image going I'll copy the original again and paste to the folder where i keep the the image i submitted, so i can find it easily and to have a second backup in case i decide to further play with the original, never had a validation issue doing this. |
That's fine, though it may vary with OS version ... I still recommend the drag-and-drop technique for both Windows and Macs, as that is known to retain valid originals and is less work (to me) than dealing with menus or keyboard shortcuts.
Message edited by author 2012-06-04 13:57:22. |
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06/04/2012 02:00:10 PM · #18 |
isn't drag and drop just a shortcut to copy/cut and paste?
i mean aren't you dong the same exact thing? |
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06/04/2012 02:11:28 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
isn't drag and drop just a shortcut to copy/cut and paste?
i mean aren't you dong the same exact thing? |
Not quite.
Drag/drop: File --> new file
Copy/paste: File --> Clipboard --> new file
By introducing the clipboard, you are no longer making an exact copy of the file. |
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06/04/2012 02:13:14 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
isn't drag and drop just a shortcut to copy/cut and paste?
i mean aren't you dong the same exact thing? |
It's rather complicated, but they're nothing close to similar if you look at the assembly code which actually performs the operation, assuming you're running a Windows machine.
CS |
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06/04/2012 02:17:12 PM · #21 |
| ok, i stand corrected. in any case introducing the clipboard or not, it still works fine using windows 7. |
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06/04/2012 02:41:13 PM · #22 |
is this thread over, or does your image still need vandalizing?
eta: crap. I really do need glasses.
Message edited by author 2012-06-04 14:41:35. |
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06/04/2012 02:58:01 PM · #23 |
| I've always copied the folder on the card and pasted it into my library. I've submitted several 'originals' for validation without issue. Currently using Windows Vista but have done it with most windows incarnations. |
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06/04/2012 03:00:08 PM · #24 |
Originally posted by giantmike:
Originally posted by mike_311:
isn't drag and drop just a shortcut to copy/cut and paste?
i mean aren't you dong the same exact thing? |
Not quite.
Drag/drop: File --> new file
Copy/paste: File --> Clipboard --> new file
By introducing the clipboard, you are no longer making an exact copy of the file. |
I suspect it would change the file date, but won't affect EXIF, so should be good. |
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06/04/2012 03:21:20 PM · #25 |
Hi,
Here is a question for those Lightroom users here... Does using Lightroom's import routine (set to copy and not to make a dng) "tag" the file in the same way? Or would having lightroom copy the raw files from the card to locak disk be ok?
Dave/ |
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