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05/24/2012 10:30:31 AM · #26
Originally posted by mrchhas:

Originally posted by jagar:

Originally posted by mrchhas:

Originally posted by Alexkc:

I've just done the shooting but didn't start the editing. I will be able to do it only late at night here. Hope to be able to submit the image...


i'll be shooting later on at midnight so i'll have six hours to finish.... 8-O
we'll see if i can pull it off.


Dont sweat, just use your superpowers.


Note: This IS the challenge that I promised myself that I'd finish shooting everything by tuesday at the latest. So there goes that plan.


*grin* Ah feel yer pain...I just finished my reshoot, now home to spend the rest of the day making a worthy entry. Then off to the kitchen for me! :-)
05/24/2012 10:58:12 AM · #27
Originally posted by snaffles:

I just finished my reshoot, now home to spend the rest of the day making a worthy entry. Then off to the kitchen for me! :-)


Please tell me your super power is called "Making a Hero Sandwich" ;-)
05/24/2012 12:40:54 PM · #28
For the life of me I can't figure out the background for my super hero. I submitted a placeholder image to "force" myself to finish the challenge, but I may end up letting the placeholder be the submission.

I'm with the rest of you. Here's hoping we all have the Superpower to finish this challenge!
05/24/2012 12:44:01 PM · #29
Originally posted by adigitalromance:

For the life of me I can't figure out the background for my super hero. I submitted a placeholder image to "force" myself to finish the challenge, but I may end up letting the placeholder be the submission.

I'm with the rest of you. Here's hoping we all have the Superpower to finish this challenge!


thats my big problem with my rehoot tonight.

i know i can get a great subject shot, buy what to do with the background. maybe i'll model and render one in blender like someone suggested :).
05/24/2012 01:00:22 PM · #30
I think I just had a moment of inspiration...

Now lets hope I have a few free moments later to shoot it.
05/24/2012 01:35:18 PM · #31
Originally posted by mike_311:

Originally posted by adigitalromance:

For the life of me I can't figure out the background for my super hero. I submitted a placeholder image to "force" myself to finish the challenge, but I may end up letting the placeholder be the submission.

I'm with the rest of you. Here's hoping we all have the Superpower to finish this challenge!


thats my big problem with my rehoot tonight.

i know i can get a great subject shot, buy what to do with the background. maybe i'll model and render one in blender like someone suggested :).


Not to open a can of worms as I would like at some point to do something with 3DSMax well at least have the option if there's really nothing to shoot that I could use instead but anyway the question would be does rendering in 3D mean that the "all images must be taken within the time frame" rule is overridden? let me explain, in 3DSMax you would use a texture (say an image of a building front) and render that on the 3D framework would this image that is used to put on the frame work have to be taken within the time frame or does it come under the texture rule? (in 3DS and Blender I believe they are even called textures - I cannot remember for sure been years since I did any real 3D work).
05/24/2012 01:46:48 PM · #32
Originally posted by Mark-A:


Not to open a can of worms as I would like at some point to do something with 3DSMax well at least have the option if there's really nothing to shoot that I could use instead but anyway the question would be does rendering in 3D mean that the "all images must be taken within the time frame" rule is overridden? let me explain, in 3DSMax you would use a texture (say an image of a building front) and render that on the 3D framework would this image that is used to put on the frame work have to be taken within the time frame or does it come under the texture rule? (in 3DS and Blender I believe they are even called textures - I cannot remember for sure been years since I did any real 3D work).


You are absolutely right. "Textures" in the DPC rules should be understood as "a subtle overlay over parts or all your entry"; as soon as it becomes too opaque, it doesn't "count" as a texture anymore in DPC terms (several DQs occurred in the past for that very reason).
So yes, I believe all the textures used by the rendering tools (grass, rocks, water, bricks, whatever) would have to be taken by you within the challenge time frame.

On a side note, I suppose you would also have to prove the whole 3D mesh is yours, created from scratch during the challenge by yourself, which would be very hard (not to say impossible).
05/24/2012 01:53:39 PM · #33
I have so much to learn about PS it's not even funny. I litterally didn't understand a thing Christophe just typed.

I would love to see a step by step video on how you do the voodoo that you do, Christophe. Have you ever made an instructional video?
05/24/2012 02:04:58 PM · #34
Originally posted by gyaban:

Originally posted by Mark-A:


Not to open a can of worms as I would like at some point to do something with 3DSMax well at least have the option if there's really nothing to shoot that I could use instead but anyway the question would be does rendering in 3D mean that the "all images must be taken within the time frame" rule is overridden? let me explain, in 3DSMax you would use a texture (say an image of a building front) and render that on the 3D framework would this image that is used to put on the frame work have to be taken within the time frame or does it come under the texture rule? (in 3DS and Blender I believe they are even called textures - I cannot remember for sure been years since I did any real 3D work).


You are absolutely right. "Textures" in the DPC rules should be understood as "a subtle overlay over parts or all your entry"; as soon as it becomes too opaque, it doesn't "count" as a texture anymore in DPC terms (several DQs occurred in the past for that very reason).
So yes, I believe all the textures used by the rendering tools (grass, rocks, water, bricks, whatever) would have to be taken by you within the challenge time frame.

On a side note, I suppose you would also have to prove the whole 3D mesh is yours, created from scratch during the challenge by yourself, which would be very hard (not to say impossible).


yep, i did this on one entry where on texture was ok yet the other got a DQ becuase it wasn't transparent enough and not longer considered texture but clip art.

back to the 3d rendering, since you need an image to render onto a 3d mesh i wonder if you dont take that image it would dq you on that.

so basically you would need to take an image to use as a 3d texture. if you had that you probably wouldn't need the 3d rendering to use as a backdrop.
05/24/2012 02:10:54 PM · #35
Originally posted by mike_311:

so basically you would need to take an image to use as a 3d texture. if you had that you probably wouldn't need the 3d rendering to use as a backdrop.


Yeah my thoughts exactly
05/24/2012 02:11:09 PM · #36
Originally posted by chazoe:


I would love to see a step by step video on how you do the voodoo that you do, Christophe. Have you ever made an instructional video?


No, sorry. Nor any proper written tutorial. Two main reason for that:
1) I don't think my PS knowledge is anything interesting, I just use techniques that are already explained in many great tutorials... no clue what mine could add.
2) It would represent a lot of work, and my free time is currently entirely used by creating my entries.
05/24/2012 02:16:30 PM · #37
Originally posted by mike_311:

yep, i did this on one entry where on texture was ok yet the other got a DQ becuase it wasn't transparent enough and not longer considered texture but clip art.


For this image?


How did you generate the fire, or where did it come from?
05/24/2012 02:22:33 PM · #38
Originally posted by adigitalromance:

Originally posted by mike_311:

yep, i did this on one entry where on texture was ok yet the other got a DQ becuase it wasn't transparent enough and not longer considered texture but clip art.


For this image?


How did you generate the fire, or where did it come from?


for that challenge we were allowed to use textures we found on the internet so long as they were used as textures. so i found fire and concrete. the fire actually is transparent, ie applied like a texture, i also used a blending mode i used too (i forget which one), but i guess it was so small it was hard to tell. they dq me for the fire.

that was done in my early days now i know better, now i create everything myself just to be safe.
05/24/2012 03:05:26 PM · #39
Originally posted by gyaban:

Originally posted by chazoe:


I would love to see a step by step video on how you do the voodoo that you do, Christophe. Have you ever made an instructional video?


No, sorry. Nor any proper written tutorial. Two main reason for that:
1) I don't think my PS knowledge is anything interesting, I just use techniques that are already explained in many great tutorials... no clue what mine could add.
2) It would represent a lot of work, and my free time is currently entirely used by creating my entries.


Aw dang, if you don't share your secrets how am I ever supposed to beat you in an Expert challenge?! ;-)

chazoe, the interwebz is positively sinking under weight of all the online tutorials. Google any question at all pertaining to PS CS5 (or whatever software you're using) on how to do something, and you can pretty much cherry pick through them. There are good videos, and for readers like me there are written tutorials, all on how to do PS stuff. You can also try the Tips, Tricks Q&A section under Forums, do a search there and something may shake out.

And above all, don't forget that you can't rely entirely on pp to rescue your image. Start with good material first then go from there.

Good luck!!
05/24/2012 03:13:00 PM · #40
so since we are allowed to use downloaded textures, are we also allowed o used downloaded brushes? say smoke brush?

normally not, but i didn't know if this texture exemption includes brushes as well.

on a side note, when the heck did this texture rule get entered in the expert ruleset? it used to be a special rule.

Message edited by author 2012-05-24 15:13:26.
05/24/2012 03:22:02 PM · #41
Snaffles has a point, there are tons of tutorials out there the key is to find a good hit with the a keyword search.

i.e. this one has some interesting techniques photo manipulation tutorials how to Other layer modes could be key to getting what you want with your own photographs.

Some are stumped with backgrounds and/or textures - I would suggest taking a stroll through the DPC challenge history to look at past Perspective, Macro, or Macro without Bugs and Flowers to look for inspiration. Think lighting, texture, and angle....take a good long look around at object/things in your very own house - you could very well be in for a surprise at what you utilize as something else if you just take a closer look. Another great place to look for inspiration is believe it or not...the hardware store (Home Depot, Lowe's, etc.). Just look with a creative mind and think angle and lighting.

Message edited by author 2012-05-24 15:25:04.
05/24/2012 06:17:41 PM · #42
Originally posted by CNovack:



Some are stumped with backgrounds and/or textures - I would suggest taking a stroll through the DPC challenge history to look at past Perspective, Macro, or Macro without Bugs and Flowers to look for inspiration. Think lighting, texture, and angle....take a good long look around at object/things in your very own house - you could very well be in for a surprise at what you utilize as something else if you just take a closer look. Another great place to look for inspiration is believe it or not...the hardware store (Home Depot, Lowe's, etc.). Just look with a creative mind and think angle and lighting.


very good point, thanks for the advice.
05/24/2012 08:42:11 PM · #43
Originally posted by CNovack:

Snaffles has a point, there are tons of tutorials out there the key is to find a good hit with the a keyword search.

i.e. this one has some interesting techniques photo manipulation tutorials how to Other layer modes could be key to getting what you want with your own photographs.

Okay, I checked out this link.
I strongly suggest everyone else stay away from it.
There's nothing to see here, understand?
It's mine, mine, ALL MINE!
05/24/2012 09:58:41 PM · #44
Seriously??

You had to post this?

I have a badly done, expert editing superpowers shot, that I was about to enter and go to sleep.

I think my shot has sunk from badly done to downright embarrassing compared to those!

Thanks for ruining my night... ;P
05/24/2012 10:14:30 PM · #45
Originally posted by vawendy:

Seriously??

You had to post this?

I have a badly done, expert editing superpowers shot, that I was about to enter and go to sleep.

I think my shot has sunk from badly done to downright embarrassing compared to those!

Thanks for ruining my night... ;P


Pffttt, Wendy when I can believe you have done a truly bad expert ed....-SQUIRREL !!!!! [stares intently off to her left] Huh? What was I saying? :-)

My entry is most likely going to be a love it or hate it with the voters....eh, it was fun to do and I love it. I just wish that _______ was that easy as picking up a brush and __________:-)
05/24/2012 10:23:04 PM · #46
so we are allowed to download textures off the internet correct???

im just worried i didn't apply it the "right way"...
05/24/2012 10:34:19 PM · #47
Originally posted by CNovack:

Originally posted by vawendy:

Seriously??

You had to post this?

I have a badly done, expert editing superpowers shot, that I was about to enter and go to sleep.

I think my shot has sunk from badly done to downright embarrassing compared to those!

Thanks for ruining my night... ;P


Pffttt, Wendy when I can believe you have done a truly bad expert ed....-SQUIRREL !!!!! [stares intently off to her left] Huh? What was I saying? :-)

My entry is most likely going to be a love it or hate it with the voters....eh, it was fun to do and I love it. I just wish that _______ was that easy as picking up a brush and __________:-)


heheh... :)

I think I was able to fix some of the problems. So if people don't look to closely, I not be majorly embarrassed. But not a whole heck of a lot can stand up to those tutorials!

I'm hoping that there's no expert editing for a couple of weeks. I've spent more time on the last two expert editing challenges than I've spent photographing things all month! (And I'm the one that will sit for 5 hours photographing birds and squirrels. :)
05/24/2012 10:34:40 PM · #48
Originally posted by mike_311:

so we are allowed to download textures off the internet correct???

im just worried i didn't apply it the "right way"...


Yup. You can use textures, just not as a feature.
05/24/2012 10:36:03 PM · #49
Originally posted by vawendy:

Originally posted by mike_311:

so we are allowed to download textures off the internet correct???

im just worried i didn't apply it the "right way"...


Yup. You can use textures, just not as a feature.


what do you mean a feature?

im only applying to part of my image. i need to give a shape i drew in a texture.

Message edited by author 2012-05-24 22:36:57.
05/24/2012 10:40:13 PM · #50
im leaving it, if i get DQ'd it will serve as a example, since its not really clear.
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