a bit of complaining... - DPChallenge Forums

04/18/2012 04:14:22 PM · #1

not really but noticed there is a bit of bragging title so its a play on that

this pic which i really liked not only because i saved the poor blighters lives but i liked the harshness of it got 20 votes under 5 which i thought harsh, was after some feedback from those who scored it so or anyone else

i set of driving to work in mild snow and then got stuck in this, the snow was over a metre deep here, theyre are full grown sheep burried alive let alone the lambs, drystone wall is hidden by the drifts

full set from teh day here

//www.flickr.com/photos/cyberprop/sets/72157629740785899/

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Alex_Petrini

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04/18/2012 04:17:13 PM · #2

My vote was an 8 - IMO it deserved a top 5. Very interesting interpration.

FocusPoint

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04/18/2012 04:20:51 PM · #3

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

...full set from teh day here

//www.flickr.com/photos/cyberprop/sets/72157629740785899/

...now, that's a "whiteout" :)

sjhuls

Canon EOS-7D

04/18/2012 04:20:51 PM · #4

I think this is a good shot in the wrong challenge. Happens all the time, voters just don't see the connection to the challenge topic and they don't score you as high as the image deserves.

04/18/2012 04:22:41 PM · #5

Did well for what appears to be a bit of a shoehorn. In the right challenge, it could easily ribbon. Good on you for rescuing the sheep!

Sony 24-70mm F4 Vario-Tessar T* FE OSS

04/18/2012 04:26:06 PM · #6

i guess ppl didnt get that what was further up the rd, if you view the set you can see hehe, i was going to go with this but thought it was to obvious to have the road in i guess i was wrong, dpc is quiet literal

IMG_4096.jpg by gilesbert, on Flickr

FocusPoint

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04/18/2012 04:28:57 PM · #7

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Did well for what appears to be a bit of a shoehorn. In the right challenge, it could easily ribbon. Good on you for rescuing the sheep!

with some rice :)

Bear_Music

Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra

04/18/2012 04:29:28 PM · #8

Properly processed, this one very possibly would have ribboned IMO: //www.flickr.com/photos/cyberprop/7045948039/in/set-72157629740785899/lightbox/

R.

Venser

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04/18/2012 04:32:18 PM · #9

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Did well for what appears to be a bit of a shoehorn. In the right challenge, it could easily ribbon. Good on you for rescuing the sheep!

I'm one of the fours. Exactly this reason, and to be honest, with the shoehorn, it was lucky to hit four.
I know with further up the road, it's almost a free study, but I was looking for a continuation of a story. What would I find further up the road if I travelled?

CS

Alex_Petrini

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04/18/2012 04:35:02 PM · #10

I absolutely didn't see it as a shoehorn. It tells a story, at least for me and it's a very nice photo.

posthumous

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04/18/2012 04:36:29 PM · #11

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

dpc is quiet literal

somewhere in the uk, a light bulb finally goes on

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04/18/2012 04:39:15 PM · #12

Originally posted by cosmicassassin:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:
Did well for what appears to be a bit of a shoehorn. In the right challenge, it could easily ribbon. Good on you for rescuing the sheep!

I'm one of the fours. Exactly this reason, and to be honest, with the shoehorn, it was lucky to hit four.
I know with further up the road, it's almost a free study, but I was looking for a continuation of a story. What would I find further up the road if I travelled?

CS

Dom, i knew that really hehe but its fun hoping ppl will change ;)

tell me what your definition of what fitted this title then? a red door in a winter scene?

further on up the road..winters coming, so assuming further on the road is time as well then its true is it not?

some ppl just look for anything to score low

robert, you are indeed right let me dig out the stab at processing i had on that one till i switched

IMG_4076.jpg by gilesbert, on Flickr

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Kelli

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04/18/2012 04:50:37 PM · #13

I don't understand the "shoehorn" comments in this challenge at all. I got a couple myself. There is nothing in the description that says you need to shoot a road. You just need to shoot something that is further up the road. Nothing should have been a dnmc in this challenge. I could have went further up the road and shot an ant. It would fit. Someone please explain how anything could be dnmc here.

kirbic

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04/18/2012 04:50:54 PM · #14

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

some ppl just look for anything to score low

No, no, no. Stop. Back up from the problem. If we didn't connect with the voters, why is that so? Is it them, or us? Hint: we can't blame the voters.
Yes, the "average voter" is literal. No surprise there. Ask 200 people their interpretation of a challenge topic, and the most common answer you get will if course be the literal one.
For better or worse, a tenuous or hard-to-make challenge connection will result in a lower-than-expected score. I'm sure you knew this going in. Hell, I've done it, and kicked myself for it... more than once.
IMO, it is a good shot, but the challenge connection is tenuous. In the right challenge, I think you'd have scored a half-point higher.

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04/18/2012 05:00:18 PM · #15

Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

some ppl just look for anything to score low

No, no, no. Stop. Back up from the problem. If we didn't connect with the voters, why is that so? Is it them, or us? Hint: we can't blame the voters.
Yes, the "average voter" is literal. No surprise there. Ask 200 people their interpretation of a challenge topic, and the most common answer you get will if course be the literal one.
For better or worse, a tenuous or hard-to-make challenge connection will result in a lower-than-expected score. I'm sure you knew this going in. Hell, I've done it, and kicked myself for it... more than once.
IMO, it is a good shot, but the challenge connection is tenuous. In the right challenge, I think you'd have scored a half-point higher.

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what did you interpret further on up the rd as? i like kelli saw it as pretty much anything that was further on up the rd, so i find it hard to see what was a dnmc or not

if we are being picky one could argue that the ribbon winner wasn't further up the rd it was on teh rd where you were currently hahaha

"Show us what one might expect if they venture further up the road" its hardly a shoot a rubber duck a doddo drinking coctails at dawn with gin is it....

Venser

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04/18/2012 05:02:34 PM · #16

Red door in the middle of winter got a 2 from me. I found it really hard to believe there'd be a red door in the middle of winter in the middle of no where. Gave it an additional mark for technical merits.

I don't look purposely to score low, but I want meaning and context from images. If I see the same idea repeatedly, I'll takes some marks away for lack of creativity. If I don't like the photo, I take marks off. Hell, there's a number of reasons why a particular photo may get low marks.

My top vote getters were the following:

The Texaco station was overly processed, but I saw story within; along with the title it made me think. Therefore got a high vote.

@Kelli,
Sure further up the road anything can happen or you can probably see anything. There's nothing I dislike more than these free study'esque challenges except the free studies themselves. There's absolutely no point in even having a challenge description at this point. So I take what my interpretation is and use that as the benchmark for my voting. There's no way I'm the only person who does this, I just might be the only person to admit it.

CS

Nikon AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 28-70mm f/2.8D IF-ED

04/18/2012 05:08:38 PM · #17

Originally posted by Kelli:

The challenge topic and description set up an expectation of a particular context. Sure, we could assume the image is of something "up the road" but then that would simply make it a free study.

What I never understand is photogs thinking they can use their own outlying interpretation and expect to get a decent score from the masses who, as has been pointed out many times, are quite literal. Bottom line: if you want a high score, literal group-think is the safe way to go.

hihosilver

Nikon D200

04/18/2012 05:09:11 PM · #18

Gosh...I gave this image a 9 so I probably shouldn't post in this thread. But, I guess I missed the DNMC aspect. Even without a road, I strongly felt that further up the road...this image showed me the end of the road. I should have given it a 10.

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04/18/2012 05:12:09 PM · #19

Originally posted by hihosilver:

It's outliers like you who give false hope to individualists. :P

jagar

Samsung Galaxy S9/S9+

04/18/2012 05:16:17 PM · #20

I also thought it was a very good image, I knew it wouldn't be at the top because of its ambiguous relation to the challenge, although I never thought that silly red door would be at the top and it was, one look at the smudgy processing around the door and I thought it would be way down the pack, shows what I know.

tnun

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04/18/2012 05:17:31 PM · #21

Thank you Giles for posting this thread so I could enjoy the whole series: beautiful, cold and humbly credible.

Also so much fun when people are not only righteous about meeting the challenge, but about the preferred unimaginative interpretations of the challenge.

I too live in hope.

Canon EF 100mm f/2.8 USM Macro

04/18/2012 05:20:18 PM · #22

hah thanks i guess its better to pander to the masses lol, but i liked the shot so hey ho

i only saw the red door shot after the challenge had ended and it was pretty obvious the bad blend and different brightness to the scene, shows though to quote gladiator "the mob is fickle...." haha

Spork99

OM System OM-1

04/18/2012 05:23:01 PM · #23

Looks like an average snow day here, though this past winter was freakishly warm. Lovely pics though.