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 03/25/2012 10:39:32 PM · #51
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by vawendy:
Now, I rarely comment anymore unless I like a photo. And then my comments are the dull "I like your photo" type. I would much prefer criticism -- whether or not I agree with it -- so that's the type of comment that I used to leave. But I've seen too many threads like this, so I'm beginning to believe that people don't want critique.

If you sign up for the Critique Club, you will know that all the photos you comment on are by people who say they wanted feedback, but you give up having the option to cherry-pick the the photos (they are assigned randomly from a pool).


I did sign up for the critique club, and left detailed, long comments. It was a little difficult though, because there was never any feedback that they even read the comment (if they didn't bother checking the box.) That's why I found it easier just leaving smaller thoughts in a comment.
 03/26/2012 04:27:30 AM · #52
"Comment Helpful" check marks should be calculated/compiled from the user and subsequently subtracted from their portfolio space.
 03/26/2012 05:18:24 AM · #53
Originally posted by undieyatch:
"Comment Helpful" check marks should be calculated/compiled from the user and subsequently subtracted from their portfolio space.


I am sure that would certainly encourage most people marking all comments as helpful, giving all commenters the rewarding feeling of being honestly appreciated.
It will increase quaulity of comments significantly too.. I mean, they'll all be 'helpful'.

Message edited by author 2012-03-26 05:18:48.
 03/26/2012 05:41:36 AM · #54
Originally posted by vawendy:


I did sign up for the critique club, and left detailed, long comments. It was a little difficult though, because there was never any feedback that they even read the comment (if they didn't bother checking the box.) That's why I found it easier just leaving smaller thoughts in a comment.


Perhaps Langdon will implement the 'criticism welcome' checkbox, and that might help.
 03/26/2012 06:28:44 AM · #55
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
So.....This gentleman wants to see more of the subjects in the foreground, and states that it's too dark for that, and then goes on to point out that "We already know what the sun looks like."......

Huh? What's the theme of the challenge????

Originally posted by GeneralE:
To me a "sunset" picture is not a portrait of the sun, but a landscape/skyscape/scene illuminated by the setting sun. Your commentor appears to prefer more detail available to the interesting foreground subjects, and is less concerned with obtaining a sharply-defined image of the sun itself. When I have an image which is a near-silhouette, I usually play around with the dark tones to see if I'd rather bring out or obscure detail ... it's no crime for someone to prefer the choice you didn't make.

Yah.....the interpretation thing again. The shot was pretty much as shot at 6:30 A.M., and the view is what seems typical, to me, of what some of us see in the morning headed to work. It was "my" interpretation of a sunrise. C'est la vie......

Originally posted by GeneralE:
If people could just mentally translate "You should have ..." to "I would have preferred ..." I think everyone would be less stressed about comments, and perhaps more people would stop being afraid to make them.

Okay, in my case I wasn't stressed, and I've been around long enough that I do roll with it, however it goes. I was passing along my view. I guess to me, "I would have preferred" *or* "You should have..." are both points of view, and opinions, that don't make sense. Of course for the most part someone else is *not* going to edit and present an image the same way you will. So why tell them how you'd do it? I have no problem with, "I don't like this image it's too dark." So be it. There's no way of telling the validity of the "fix" comment because there won't be a chance to re-edit and vote on it anyway. I guess a project could be made of it, a new thread started, and edits and opinions proffered, but that'd get tiring, and clog up a lot of space if everyone tried to do that.

Again, I was just offering up my opinion of the content of comments......not bitching or complaining.
Originally posted by GeneralE:
It's amazing about how the threads about "not enough comments" and those complaining about the quality/content of the comments leapfrog each other every few days. It's just someone's opinion -- unless it's from the photo editor of National Geographic just ignore it if you don't agree and don't want to debate the point ...

Perhaps if people would view the feedback on comments in the same vein as the photogs offer their opinions in return, it'd be a non-issue, too. It's a good idea to have back and forth.......why assume that the people offering feedback on feedback are complaining?
 03/26/2012 06:42:10 AM · #56
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
You don't need answers. It's how they viewed it... and how they would shoot it with their style. You don't have to agree or understand.


Originally posted by mike_311:
exactly.

i still think we should let people who cant handle criticism or comments to turn off commenting on their photos. we would still be able to leave them, they or anyone else just wouldn't see them. that way no ones feeling get hurt.

Sigh.....

Okay, James, if the comment isn't meant to be understood, why leave it? As far as agreeing, of course that isn't required, or I would assume expected, but why not leave an impression instead of how *you'd* do it? I guess I just don't see that. Wouldn't that just mean you want to see things the same as what you'd shoot/edit? I know I certainly don't want to look at imagery that's exactly like mine.....I *want* to see how you'd do it. That's how I learn, by seeing things through your eyes/lens.

Mike......please don't assume that just because someone doesn't agree with comments that they "can't handle criticism". It's been my experience here that discussion amongst us in the forums, and the feedback that gets generated, helps both the participants, and the people who run the site progress.

My checkbox idea would more be along the line of:

1.Check here if you want feedback on how to better process your image.

2.Check here if you just want the visceral reaction.

3.Check here if you only want pretty, shining comments.

4.Check here if you want anything that you get.

5.Check here if you want everyone to keep their freakin' opinions to themselves.

Granted, a little exaggerated for effect, but the more complicated it gets, the more of a PITA it is for the site owner to implement. That's why I've not offered up *my* solution before.....LOL!!!

Message edited by author 2012-03-26 06:56:25.
 03/26/2012 06:55:50 AM · #57
Originally posted by vawendy:
*sigh* This whole thread has squelched my desire to comment yet again. For the first year or two of these threads, I ignored them and kept commenting anyway.

Gotta go to work, but I'd like to address your views at a later time, and hopefully, put forth some thoughts about feedback feedback. LOL!!!

PLEASE don't stop commenting, however you see fit. Remember that responses to the comments are just that responses, and worth what you want out of them. Just because someone doesn't like one comment, or gets snippy doesn't mean the community at large doesn't want comments.
 03/26/2012 08:04:37 AM · #58
I come back from a few days out of town and see how much conversation this thread has sparked.

I like to see the different approaches others have. I know that some people don't want comments... too bad, I will comment anyway. If I wasn't meant to comment, there wouldn't be an option for it. Just my view on it.

I am glad that there are many people that find my comments helpful.

I will never say to someone "Your shot was done wrong" or anything along those lines.

For one, that only creates tension and starts wars. I don't know if they were going for something COMPLETELY different from what I saw. I may, however, say that "this doesn't work for me" or "I would have done..."
And for those people who are offended by these types of comments... realize... those are MY opinions. I am not a professional photog, I am not a mastermind when it comes to composition... I'm just someone who loves photography.

But I will continue to comment as much as possible... and I have learned from my own comments. So it is helping me very much, along my photography journey.

:)

03/26/2012 08:59:23 AM · #59
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
You don't need answers. It's how they viewed it... and how they would shoot it with their style. You don't have to agree or understand.

Sigh.....

Okay, James, if the comment isn't meant to be understood, why leave it? As far as agreeing, of course that isn't required, or I would assume expected, but why not leave an impression instead of how *you'd* do it?


By "you don't have to understand" I didn't mean that the commenter didn't want you to understand their comment. I meant more that if you don't understand their point of view - it's not a big deal. It's their two cents.

More than anything, even if you don't understand the comment's merit and don't agree with it, it still provides a little insight into why someone may have voted the way they did.

For instance, I will often point out if I think a photo needs sharpening. Someone else may think that the image is fine as is (or maybe it was intended?). We're all just trying to grow and learn from each other, which is really the point of this site - personal growth. Right?
 03/26/2012 09:00:56 AM · #60
Originally posted by JamesDowning:
We're all just trying to grow and learn from each other, which is really the point of this site - personal growth. Right?

No. It's about winning ribbons and getting popular.
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