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12/23/2011 02:10:58 PM · #1
Absolutely no point to this other then damn the IS on the Canon 24-105 is great!

This is my first lens with IS so new to me... go about your business now and back to your regularly schedule program :-)
12/23/2011 02:17:04 PM · #2
Originally posted by robs:

Absolutely no point to this other then damn the IS on the Canon 24-105 is great!

This is my first lens with IS so new to me... go about your business now and back to your regularly schedule program :-)


It's the most versatile canon lens for travelling. It is an L lens which means great image quality, has IS, and covers a nice range.
12/23/2011 02:21:12 PM · #3
If you like the IS on a short lens, you'd love it on a long lens!
12/23/2011 03:28:42 PM · #4
Always ran the 28-75 Tamron on my 20D. Penny got the 7D and inherited the Tamron, 'cuz its corner performance wasn't that hot on the full frame and I seldom used it. Then I got that 24-105 and boy, HOWDY! That image stabilization is wonderful. Now Penny's got one of her own (we both love that range) plus we've traded the 70-200mm 4L up for a 70-200mm 2.8L IS. And my 100 2.8L macro is stabilized, as is my 100-400 L, so the profound sense of stability in my life is rather gratifying :-)

R.
12/23/2011 04:03:04 PM · #5
LOL, I have a grand total of one IS lens... and that's probably all I will have for the forseeable future. My next major photographic purchase will be a body upgrade. Lens upgrades will be further out.
12/23/2011 04:57:44 PM · #6
Stop doing this to me!! Now I have started looking at upgrading my 15-85mm (IS but not an L) to 24-105mm. Reading this post might cost me money! Anyone interested in 15-85mm, used only occasionally??
12/23/2011 05:32:15 PM · #7
i thought about the 24-105 but dont with my current crop need it i dont think, yeah its newer and some say sharper than my 28-70 but i likr the consistency of the 2.8 across my L's so dont think the is would make much difference comapred to a few stops in speed, they say its worth 1-2 stops dont they. i have 16-35,28-70,70-200 so as much as i like the look of teh 24-105 dont think it would fit in my bag at any point. my mate uses one for film work with a 5dmk2 and get amazing results.

12/23/2011 07:33:49 PM · #8
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Always ran the 28-75 Tamron on my 20D. Penny got the 7D and inherited the Tamron, 'cuz its corner performance wasn't that hot on the full frame and I seldom used it. Then I got that 24-105 and boy, HOWDY! That image stabilization is wonderful. Now Penny's got one of her own (we both love that range) plus we've traded the 70-200mm 4L up for a 70-200mm 2.8L IS. And my 100 2.8L macro is stabilized, as is my 100-400 L, so the profound sense of stability in my life is rather gratifying :-)

Yeah, I stuck with the tammy 28-75 and 70-200f4 (no IS) for @ 6 years now and was happy with those after getting the 7D as well. I have been adding primes around those and have found I much prefer those for some reason.

This 24-105 is an impulse splurge mostly for a trip back to London next year.... I tripped over a good refurb price from Canon and managed to get it for $820 - I figured at that price I could not go wrong even if I wanted to sell after the trip, which is not likely given how much I like the thing. The tammy is showing it's age recently (buckling rubber barrel, funny feel in the zoom - yeah I will send it in to get fixed most likely but it's out of warrantee) and that was part of it... although I will likely send it away to the be fixed up. I finally picked up the 135f2 that I have wanted forever earlier this year and I very nearly went for the 100L macro instead just for the reportedly amazing IS on it.

I will never let go of that 70-200f4 non-is unless I can swing the IS version at some point - I have no need for the big brother f2.8.

Originally posted by MargaretN:

Stop doing this to me!! Now I have started looking at upgrading my 15-85mm (IS but not an L) to 24-105mm. Reading this post might cost me money! Anyone interested in 15-85mm, used only occasionally??

Well... it IS Christmas.... B&H is open all weekend I would imagine - they will probably accept orders Christmas eve and they take credit cards as well :-) It really is a better lens then I was expecting. There... that help?

Originally posted by Giles_uk:

i thought about the 24-105 but dont with my current crop need it i dont think, yeah its newer and some say sharper than my 28-70 but i likr the consistency of the 2.8 across my L's so dont think the is would make much difference comapred to a few stops in speed, they say its worth 1-2 stops dont they. i have 16-35,28-70,70-200 so as much as i like the look of teh 24-105 dont think it would fit in my bag at any point. my mate uses one for film work with a 5dmk2 and get amazing results.

I have kept with the slower zooms mostly [apart from the tammy] but have a few primes when I want a faster lens... For ME (and I understand why some disagree)... I find f2.8 in the middle... not fast enough when you need fast and far more $$ then the f4 zooms. When I want to blur the background, I just go for one of the primes. I am not shooting for a paper or wedding, so have time for the most part to do that.
12/23/2011 07:45:57 PM · #9
Originally posted by MargaretN:

Stop doing this to me!! Now I have started looking at upgrading my 15-85mm (IS but not an L) to 24-105mm. Reading this post might cost me money! Anyone interested in 15-85mm, used only occasionally??


The 15-85 is the equivalent lens to the 24-100 on a crop body but with a bit more tele.
The IS in the 15-85 is 4 stops whilst the 24-100 is only 2 I believe.

I love my 15-85 only thing I wish is that it was a constant f4 through the range and then it would be perfecct!!!!
This thing is sharp wide open and going down to 15 means you rarely need to carry a wide angle.
Match it with a 70-200 f4 IS, or 70-300L or a 100-400 and you are set.
12/23/2011 08:08:48 PM · #10
Originally posted by RamblinR:

I love my 15-85 only thing I wish is that it was a constant f4 through the range and then it would be perfecct!!!!
This thing is sharp wide open and going down to 15 means you rarely need to carry a wide angle.
Match it with a 70-200 f4 IS, or 70-300L or a 100-400 and you are set.
I found 10-22mm much better for wide angle. I might also at some stage consider getting 5D Mark III body. It will be an expensive upgrade!
12/23/2011 08:21:04 PM · #11
Originally posted by MargaretN:

Originally posted by RamblinR:

I love my 15-85 only thing I wish is that it was a constant f4 through the range and then it would be perfecct!!!!
This thing is sharp wide open and going down to 15 means you rarely need to carry a wide angle.
Match it with a 70-200 f4 IS, or 70-300L or a 100-400 and you are set.
I found 10-22mm much better for wide angle. I might also at some stage consider getting 5D Mark III body. It will be an expensive upgrade!

Yeah, I have avoided EFs lenses because at some point I want to be 35mm FF again...... The only one I compromised on was the 10-22 knowing I would have to swap it for the 17-40 in the future. I have rarely found the 28mm tammy not wide enough on a crop but I often find the 75 not long enough... so the 24-105 is an ideal length on a crop for me (a lot will find it not wide enough).

I do not know much about the 15-85 but seems to be well regarded so if your sticking with a crop it might be a decent option.
12/24/2011 12:12:11 AM · #12
I had a 24-105 and the quality of it was no where near as good as the 15-85.
It was only sharp in the centre and I was using it on a crop so it should have performed well as I am only using the centre of the lens on a crop
Tested both lenses using the extreme focus points and no images were focused with the 24-105
Those shot with the 15-85 were razor sharp and I was shooting them both wide open.
Obviously I had a bad copy.

Most all of my lenses are for crop bodies:

10-22 efs
15-85 efs
17-55 efs
60 macro efs

70-200 f4 IS USM is my only FF lens

I often think of FF but I honestly do not have a reason to go there.
I love my 7d and 60d. Both are amazing cameras and I have the perfect set of lenses to go with them.
I think I would try a few prime lenses before I go FF

12/24/2011 10:25:22 AM · #13
Originally posted by kirbic:

LOL, I have a grand total of one IS lens... and that's probably all I will have for the forseeable future. My next major photographic purchase will be a body upgrade. Lens upgrades will be further out.


Same here. You'd think that between all the lenses you and I have there'd be more than a whopping two stabilized lenses.
Only lens I might hedge on and get before a body is a Nikon 14-24. I'd get that so I had a superwide when I went FF.
12/24/2011 11:04:23 AM · #14
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:


Only lens I might hedge on and get before a body is a Nikon 14-24. I'd get that so I had a superwide when I went FF.


I can understand you lusting after that one... it gets great reviews. Too bad it's a "G" lens, makes it pretty much useless on a Canon body since no aperture control ring. Or maybe that's a good thing, LOL.
12/24/2011 11:29:55 AM · #15
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:


Only lens I might hedge on and get before a body is a Nikon 14-24. I'd get that so I had a superwide when I went FF.


I can understand you lusting after that one... it gets great reviews. Too bad it's a "G" lens, makes it pretty much useless on a Canon body since no aperture control ring. Or maybe that's a good thing, LOL.


Haha- most likely a good thing, in your case.
Have you ever seen a definitive reason why they were removed? I've seen a couple explanations.
12/24/2011 12:40:37 PM · #16
Originally posted by spiritualspatula:


Have you ever seen a definitive reason why they were removed? I've seen a couple explanations.


I haven't. But from the perspective of an engineer who's spent his career in manufacturing, I think it's almost certainly to reduce manufacturing complexity and cost. It's only us "old skool" folks that would actually *use* the aperture ring rather than a setting on the body. It is sad that it limits the usefulness of such a lens on a Canon body. I've always enjoyed the fact that the majority of the classic AI and AIS glass is useable on Canon.
12/24/2011 02:52:22 PM · #17
Originally posted by kirbic:

Originally posted by spiritualspatula:


Only lens I might hedge on and get before a body is a Nikon 14-24. I'd get that so I had a superwide when I went FF.


I can understand you lusting after that one... it gets great reviews. Too bad it's a "G" lens, makes it pretty much useless on a Canon body since no aperture control ring. Or maybe that's a good thing, LOL.

You KNOW you wanting to run dual systems.... Grab a Nikon body and that lens and your all set :-)
12/24/2011 03:33:55 PM · #18
Originally posted by robs:

You KNOW you wanting to run dual systems.... Grab a Nikon body and that lens and your all set :-)


LOL, didn't you see the signs, "Don't feed the gearheads!"
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