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03/29/2011 08:28:31 PM · #51 |
Having never submitted to 1x I am a bit puzzled my the use of it as a yardstick of excellence in photography. I do love some of the stuff over there, and I like the concept of a juried gallery, and since  ursula is involved, I assume that they are good hearted people. That said some of the work is more edited that I like, and there is a definite aesthetic which looks fondly on the emotive over the documentary and cold northern light and muted palette.
The level of work is outstanding, but it is what it is. Look at the work of the founders and if you love that work and want to work in a similar vein, enjoy. If your look is markedly different, and you choose to beg entry, don't be surprised at a low acceptance rate. |
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03/29/2011 09:09:20 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by marnet:
Originally posted by jmsetzler:
Originally posted by marnet:
I have looked at your profile and got shocked by this statistics:
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# Received: 3,421
# Helpful: 68 |
And this means what in terms of this thread? |
Credibility in making a comment |
Yuh... you are right. I'm definitely not qualified. Sorry for the idiotic intrusion I have made. |
LOL, this is the perfect response, but I'll bet money the target missed the point. |
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03/29/2011 09:31:04 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Me and a few of my friends often laugh when we look at some of the rejects. We mainly laugh when the rejects are EQUAL to what is on the site....at least in our opinion.
I once had a discussion with someone in a thread about really good shots being rejected. We discussed several landscapes and portraits that made it and that did not make it. He said that the rejects did not "tell a story" or "have a point". Imagine the surprise when I sent him photos like this and asked him to tell me "what the story is" !!
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This is an interesting comment, but really it gets at the whole thing, to me. The fault in this whole discussion is attempting to give art strict boundaries, strict definitions of good and bad. Part of the frustration, methinks, comes from the perception that that is exactly what 1x is trying to do in its approval/rejection of pieces. It's assumed to be an elitist cadre. I don't feel that's the case, and as noted by others, there is a definite aesthetic to the works on the site. Every gallery in the world technically rejects and accepts work, it's nothing particular to them. Hell, DPC technically "accepts" and "rejects" images via Blue Ribbons and Brown. You can say that you aren't fond of the work, fine, but don't make the mistake of creating your own lockstep definition of art or you'll have missed the point twice... |
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11/20/2011 04:47:49 PM · #54 |
| I stumbled across 1x a while back and, although there are some very good images on the site, what I didn't like was the lack of consistency between images accepted and images rejected. All art of course is subjective, but some of the images rejected beggared belief, as did some of the accepted ones. So, to me at least, the selection process seemed somewhat flawed. Then I looked at the founders work... and I can only presume they don't subject their own work to their own critique system. If you're going to have rules at least make them so that they apply to everyone. So, interesting site, some great art, but their rather shaky and inconsistent selection process turned me off. Then again, it's their site and they're perfectly entitled to run it any way they see fit! |
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11/20/2011 05:04:39 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by Dabow:
I stumbled across 1x a while back and, although there are some very good images on the site, what I didn't like was the lack of consistency between images accepted and images rejected. All art of course is subjective, but some of the images rejected beggared belief, as did some of the accepted ones. So, to me at least, the selection process seemed somewhat flawed. Then I looked at the founders work... and I can only presume they don't subject their own work to their own critique system. If you're going to have rules at least make them so that they apply to everyone. So, interesting site, some great art, but their rather shaky and inconsistent selection process turned me off. Then again, it's their site and they're perfectly entitled to run it any way they see fit! |
I know, and that's the only reason I didn't pay, just used my 10 photo slots there, which got me 2 published photos, but this one rejected... I wish she would wear a scarf on top of her head :-\
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11/27/2011 11:37:53 PM · #56 |
Ok, let's discuss...
Rejected
Rejected
Selected
Really? Wow! must be the lensbaby magic there... or is it? I bet it's PS work. |
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11/28/2011 11:10:28 AM · #57 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Ok, let's discuss...
Rejected
Rejected
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Really? Wow! must be the lensbaby magic there... or is it? I bet it's PS work. |
The first two are pretty much just portraits.....the one they selected definitely has a mood, or feel to it that's distinctly different. I can't find it quickly, but somewhere on the site they have some guidelines to help you determine what may work there.......as I recall, they state that a portrait has to have something pretty special about it to get published.
I've never been accepted yet after 25 or 30 entries. I felt kind of beat up for a while, but going back through and looking at my work, I have to admit that what I've sent isn't really their style, and or, simply isn't good enough. C'est la vie....
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11/28/2011 11:18:05 AM · #58 |
4 rejects so far, my hdr entry was the latest victim. I am planning on trying this one but I don't hold out much hope that it will make it.  |
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11/28/2011 11:42:48 AM · #59 |
I finally had one accepted on my last freebie upload (my image grain entry), but I don't plan on paying them good money to reject me further. I'm sure the forums are good, but between DPC and Flickr, I'm pretty happy.
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11/28/2011 11:50:26 AM · #60 |
It does seem a little weird to me as well, their consistency. I wish I knew how they selected ,,,,but I think that is how and why people talk so much about it, because we don't know!
I have 7 that have been accepted , but they are all surfing or underwater shots. They didn't like the other ones
Message edited by author 2011-11-28 14:51:40. |
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11/28/2011 12:04:29 PM · #61 |
| Out of interest, what is the kudos of being accepted on this site? I am not familiar with the site but sounds like you guys want to get your photos accepted on it:) |
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11/28/2011 12:36:13 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Ok, let's discuss... |
The first two are pretty much just portraits.....the one they selected definitely has a mood, or feel to it that's distinctly different. ... |
I disagree. I don't think they both are regular portraits. I believe (and others can double check on that) two images are "unique portraits", just like the one accepted. DOF on the accepted girl I believe the reason (which is the mood you're talking about). I honestly thought my other two images would make it, because I have seen worse there. |
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11/28/2011 01:59:01 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Selected
Really? Wow! must be the lensbaby magic there... or is it? I bet it's PS work. |
Whether it's Lensbaby or Photoshop, does it MATTER? It is what it is, an image with a specific or particular impact, regardless of the means by which it's created.
R.
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11/28/2011 02:04:28 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Selected
Really? Wow! must be the lensbaby magic there... or is it? I bet it's PS work. |
Whether it's Lensbaby or Photoshop, does it MATTER? It is what it is, an image with a specific or particular impact, regardless of the means by which it's created.
R. |
I mentioned that because of my latest Lensbaby remarks on the other post... just in case if people read it, and see an image here accepted by 1x which could be taken by that lens.
...of course it doesn't matter how image was created, it's a nice image too, nothing against it... my problem was inconsistency of selected images there. |
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11/28/2011 02:05:16 PM · #65 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by NikonJeb:
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Ok, let's discuss... |
The first two are pretty much just portraits.....the one they selected definitely has a mood, or feel to it that's distinctly different. ... |
I disagree. I don't think they both are regular portraits. I believe (and others can double check on that) two images are "unique portraits", just like the one accepted. DOF on the accepted girl I believe the reason (which is the mood you're talking about). I honestly thought my other two images would make it, because I have seen worse there. |
Well I didn't see a larger version of the two rejected photos but looking at the thumbs it seems to me they made the right choice. The reason why I say that is it's the only one where the subject is clearly the primary focus of the shot. The DOF allows you to see the face immediately before noticing anything else. In the other two it's reversed. In the first rejected photo the subject is secondary to the cutout / selective desaturation effect and in the other one it seems that texture and detail is more of the focus, if that makes sense. |
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11/28/2011 02:23:51 PM · #66 |
Well, I haven't participated over there, so I can't really comment other than to say that I know that one of their curators has damn good taste
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11/30/2011 03:06:48 PM · #67 |
See it as it is... autocratic, biased and unfair selection process... like any other photographic site, including DPC... we just have a little bit more of autocrats ;) here we are biased and unfair as well when we rate pictures. I am sure I would not rate one picture the same depending on whether I would have my boss on my nerves... or my wife on my knees ;)
However being published there is a kind of acknowledgment... and obviously being rejected is a frustration, which sometimes is really legitimate. |
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11/30/2011 03:49:49 PM · #68 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
...my problem was inconsistency of selected images there. |
Well, what would be considered a "consistent" selection of images? Of the three images that you posted, the one that was selected drew me in far more than the other two options you posted. The assumption that an image should be selected based on some "consistent" formula implies a common mold.
Perhaps, 1x is more about enticing the viewer's eye rather than stroking the submitter's ego.
I'm still of the opinion that those curators who are qualified to select the images...really should spend all their time making them instead. ;-) |
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12/01/2011 12:35:12 AM · #69 |
I have to admit I find this thread pretty amusing. I submitted to DPC for years, but then gave up a couple of years ago because I felt there was a persistent bias here. In the meantime I started submitting to 1X and found that site far more engaging. Sure, they reject a lot of my work, and sometimes I wish the reviewers explained why they don't like my photo, but the bottom line is that when I get a photo accepted on 1X then I feel as good as if I had a print accepted at a gallery.
So that rant against 1X sounds pretty lopsided to me, after all I'm sure I'm not the only one who does better on 1X than on DPC!
But I'm glad to see John is active (again) in the forums :) |
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12/01/2011 07:02:01 AM · #70 |
Originally posted by MinsoPhoto:
4 rejects so far, my hdr entry was the latest victim. I am planning on trying this one but I don't hold out much hope that it will make it. |
And it too has fallen. 5 more spots left to try |
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12/01/2011 07:19:08 AM · #71 |
I think it is attractive in the same way as a VIP lounge is. Everybody knows good photographers are in the, few gets selected (and once you do, it is easier to stay a "member" / get photographs uploaded), and everybody not part of the few selected partly talks shit / envy them.
I must say, I find some of the selections very strange - but for the most part I like the idea of a team of "professionals" ensuring a high quality of photos. Basically, they do the work for me, when I visit: no bland, boring poor photographs will be displayed. It's elitist, yes, but it's sometime refreshing compared to the "all photographs deserves to be seen" mentality. Also, I personally dislike bugs, babies, flowers and sunsets which makes 1x a worthwhile visit.
My only conspiracy theory is, that I think they favor 1x "known" photographers as well as paying members... which I partly understand from a business perspective...
Anyway, I have 3 photographs not selected, and hoping to get one someday... I want to get to the lounge, you know :) |
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12/27/2011 10:19:57 AM · #72 |
| Great job judges... Seems like show a nipple and you're in! |
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12/27/2011 10:44:00 AM · #73 |
My rejected images I thought would make... I've seen worse, and that's why I am not paying for that site.
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12/27/2011 11:37:28 AM · #74 |
Why so bitter ?
If you don,t want to pay don,t pay,don,t get your problem ? |
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12/27/2011 11:52:12 AM · #75 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Great job judges... Seems like show a nipple and you're in! |
Hmmmm...an image that tells a timeless and emotionally expressive story accepted at 1x?! Hard to believe.
Personally, I liked the shoes...;-) |
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