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10/29/2011 06:29:48 PM · #26 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by o2bskating:
yeah i was under the impression that ravens are just really really big crows that croak like a frog. |
Apparently crows are the size of pigeons whilst raven are the size of hawks. And their calls are different. Based on this, we only have ravens where we live but their calls are quite different to what they are meant to be. For all I know they could have crossed with one another and the result is what we have residing in this area. So call it a crow or call it a raven...whatever...but my cat still reckons they taste the same!!!! |
haha my cat probably would too haha. i think all we have here are crows.... but i'm like almost in baltimore so i don't know they would have to be here somewhere .....ooh chit wonder if i can get a pic of the football team |
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10/29/2011 06:52:11 PM · #27 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by o2bskating:
yeah i was under the impression that ravens are just really really big crows that croak like a frog. |
Apparently crows are the size of pigeons whilst raven are the size of hawks. And their calls are different. Based on this, we only have ravens where we live but their calls are quite different to what they are meant to be. For all I know they could have crossed with one another and the result is what we have residing in this area. So call it a crow or call it a raven...whatever...but my cat still reckons they taste the same!!!! |
If you can't decide which it is, just call it "Craven" and be done with it :-)
R.
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10/29/2011 07:00:54 PM · #28 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by o2bskating:
yeah i was under the impression that ravens are just really really big crows that croak like a frog. |
Apparently crows are the size of pigeons whilst raven are the size of hawks. And their calls are different. Based on this, we only have ravens where we live but their calls are quite different to what they are meant to be. For all I know they could have crossed with one another and the result is what we have residing in this area. So call it a crow or call it a raven...whatever...but my cat still reckons they taste the same!!!! |
If you can't decide which it is, just call it "Craven" and be done with it :-)
R. |
Ahh stuff it...I will just use a budgie and let everyone throw stones at me..lmao!!
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10/29/2011 07:47:38 PM · #29 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by o2bskating:
yeah i was under the impression that ravens are just really really big crows that croak like a frog. |
Apparently crows are the size of pigeons whilst raven are the size of hawks. And their calls are different. Based on this, we only have ravens where we live but their calls are quite different to what they are meant to be. For all I know they could have crossed with one another and the result is what we have residing in this area. So call it a crow or call it a raven...whatever...but my cat still reckons they taste the same!!!! |
If you can't decide which it is, just call it "Craven" and be done with it :-)
R. |
Ahh stuff it...I will just use a budgie and let everyone throw stones at me..lmao!! |
Just spray paint him black. Problem solved! ;D |
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10/29/2011 09:11:07 PM · #30 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by o2bskating:
yeah i was under the impression that ravens are just really really big crows that croak like a frog. |
Apparently crows are the size of pigeons whilst raven are the size of hawks. |
I'd say crows are half-again or twice as big as either the regular pigeons (a.k.a. rock dove) or the mourning doves we have around here, but ravens are half-again or twice as big as crows. |
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10/29/2011 10:14:16 PM · #31 |
| ok so someone needs to get a picture of a raven where you can see the size of the bird for this challange because i don't think i've ever seen one. |
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10/29/2011 10:58:23 PM · #32 |
Originally posted by o2bskating:
yeah i was under the impression that ravens are just really really big crows that croak like a frog. |
Well they are corvids, like Judi said, so yes they're members of the crow family. But they're huge compared to crows and have much thicker bills than crows. And in fact crows have been known to get together to mob hawks, owls, eagles and yes, even ravens...so should you see a murder of crows chasing a really frickin huge crowlike bird, well, it's likely a raven. |
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10/29/2011 11:04:43 PM · #33 |
-double post-
Message edited by author 2011-10-29 23:05:30. |
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10/29/2011 11:04:43 PM · #34 |
I found this when I googled a size comparison for a raven and a crow.
//www.flickr.com/photos/rick_mcgrath/3637772084/
Going by the looks of things these are your average N American crow and raven. As you can see the crow is much smaller and sleeker looking, the raven is much bigger and burlier all around. Even the guy compares them to a Honda and a Mack truck.
Ravens also photograph more impressively; in the movie The Crow, a raven played the pet crow. All very confusing, I know! :-)
Message edited by author 2011-10-29 23:12:26. |
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10/29/2011 11:18:07 PM · #35 |
| omg the size difference is huge!! then all we have around my house are crows i've never seen a raven that's really sad since i'm like 30 min drive from Poe's house. |
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10/30/2011 07:21:51 AM · #36 |
| Any bird would be in a black mood after being saddled with a name like Quoth |
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10/30/2011 10:20:17 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by raish:
Any bird would be in a black mood after being saddled with a name like Quoth |
But... But... Wasn't he named "Nevermore"? Jejeje
R.
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10/30/2011 10:23:14 AM · #38 |
It's a pity I can't enter the same image twice, so I could try to pass this Crow off as an anorexic Raven.
R.
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10/30/2011 11:39:03 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It's a pity I can't enter the same image twice, so I could try to pass this Crow off as an anorexic Raven. |
Just the image I had in mind when I saw the challenge. Looks pretty well fed to me, though :-).
How about this one?
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11/01/2011 07:47:45 PM · #40 |
| Hmmm... never realized how difficult expert editing is. Will work on it a bit more but I also have a fall back idea. |
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11/01/2011 08:59:57 PM · #41 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
It's a pity I can't enter the same image twice, so I could try to pass this Crow off as an anorexic Raven.
R. |
LOL - I'm amazed that you could pass that little bird off as a crow, Bear!
:)
Anyhow, ravens have pointy tails, crows straight across ones - well, except when they are flying.
This is a crow:
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It as seriously discriminated against, in the scoring of a long-ago Challenge.
Oh, yes. And it's pretty difficult to tell "big" vs "little" size when they are flying. |
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11/01/2011 09:40:31 PM · #42 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
LOL - I'm amazed that you could pass that little bird off as a crow, Bear!
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Little? LITTLE? It's HUGE by our standards. Seriously. We get bunches of them around here at certain times of the year, and they are by FAR the biggest birds around our yard. I get to observe them a lot. They are very big birds. I used to wonder if they might BE ravens, they seem so big. These are like 14-18 inch birds or something.
R.
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11/01/2011 10:44:36 PM · #43 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by sfalice:
LOL - I'm amazed that you could pass that little bird off as a crow, Bear!
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Little? LITTLE? It's HUGE by our standards. Seriously. We get bunches of them around here at certain times of the year, and they are by FAR the biggest birds around our yard. I get to observe them a lot. They are very big birds. I used to wonder if they might BE ravens, they seem so big. These are like 14-18 inch birds or something.
R. |
Yeah, they're pretty noisy too and will eat you out of house and home.
I have seen them pursued by small birds at nesting time. The littler guys
gang up on the crows and chase them away from nests. Talk about pecking order.
those birds have it down pat. |
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11/02/2011 11:03:01 AM · #44 |
Firstly, we have crows here in CT, big ones. Hawk size, not pigeon size. and they are smart, and brazen.
Secondly, I did an elaborate set up for an entry to the challenge, way too much, seeing it was an expert challenge, but that being said, 5th day without power, perhaps no way to upload. |
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11/03/2011 12:32:09 AM · #45 |
Well I have tossed my entry into the mix and bumped it up to 31 - it will be what it will be, hopefully someone will like it.
It would be nice to get over 50 entries. Looking forward to seeing what everyone came up with....and hopefully it's not all ravens;-P |
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11/03/2011 03:45:41 AM · #46 |
Originally posted by CNovack:
Well I have tossed my entry into the mix and bumped it up to 31 - it will be what it will be, hopefully someone will like it.
It would be nice to get over 50 entries. Looking forward to seeing what everyone came up with....and hopefully it's not all ravens;-P |
Well there is some confusion as to whether we have ravens or crows....so no entry from me!  Gyaban wins! LOL!
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11/03/2011 03:54:07 AM · #47 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by CNovack:
Well I have tossed my entry into the mix and bumped it up to 31 - it will be what it will be, hopefully someone will like it.
It would be nice to get over 50 entries. Looking forward to seeing what everyone came up with....and hopefully it's not all ravens;-P |
Well there is some confusion as to whether we have ravens or crows....so no entry from me! Gyaban wins! LOL! |
Judi I was sure you would enter this. Edgar Poe wrote more than just poems or stories about Ravens though, it would be boring if thats all we saw shots of. |
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11/03/2011 07:00:54 AM · #48 |
| I am in. Scrapped my first idea because I couldn't get the editing to work out how I envisioned, ignored my second idea due to a lack of a required element and shot and edited my third idea. Hopefully this is more inspired then my last couple of entries. |
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11/03/2011 07:29:29 AM · #49 |
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by CNovack:
Well I have tossed my entry into the mix and bumped it up to 31 - it will be what it will be, hopefully someone will like it.
It would be nice to get over 50 entries. Looking forward to seeing what everyone came up with....and hopefully it's not all ravens;-P |
Well there is some confusion as to whether we have ravens or crows....so no entry from me! Gyaban wins! LOL! |
Ahhh shoot, I was sure to see something from you.....there are still 16 hours Judi!:-)
Looking for a comedy about being drunk? Newspaper story about balloon travel? A Love story (yes Poe wrote a love story) The best source for Poe's collection of work can be found here: Summaries and List of Stories
And welcome back MinsoPhoto!
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11/03/2011 07:34:16 AM · #50 |
Originally posted by CNovack:
And welcome back MinsoPhoto! |
Thanks :) |
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