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 10/27/2011 09:30:25 AM · #26
Gotta agree with the sentiments about it being OK for the subject to be looking at the camera in a candid, so long as it's not posed. Some of my own favourites candids were taken where the subject spotted me at just as I pressed the shutter. I enjoy the reaction you get. Such as:
10/27/2011 12:28:47 PM · #27
I don't feel as strongly about that, although I would probably still think of it as somewhat of a cop-out. When I wrote that, I was thinking more of the Roger Federers, or the Bruce Springsteens, or even street performers, being photographed while essentially calling attention to themselves with the expectation that people are drawing their eyes (and possibly cameras) to them.

Originally posted by GinaRothfels:
Originally posted by alanfreed:
4. Performers. This covers anyone who is on a stage, or playing a sport. They all have some degree of expectation that they could be photographed while doing these things. Again, get out of the comfort zone, dude!


According to this argument, a photo of Roger Federer playing tennis cannot be a candid. However what about a photo of an amateur playing tennis? I don't think there would be a high degree of expectation for getting photographed in this instance.
10/27/2011 12:39:18 PM · #28
sometimes its nice to deliberately get the person to look at the camera, i coughed really loudly to get this guy to look at me, once he realized he let out a small smile but this was the instant before.

I would have called it a candid, not sure now :(



10/27/2011 01:03:28 PM · #29
Originally posted by jagar:
sometimes its nice to deliberately get the person to look at the camera, i coughed really loudly to get this guy to look at me, once he realized he let out a small smile but this was the instant before.

I would have called it a candid, not sure now :(



IT IS CANDID!
 10/27/2011 01:10:09 PM · #30
I hate these threads. My score has plummeted since it started. Oh, this is dnmc, and this is dnmc. Ridiculous. Form your own opinions people. Stop being sheep. Oh this is this person definition, so now I must go dnmc all these types of entries.
 10/27/2011 01:14:50 PM · #31
Originally posted by mariuca:
Originally posted by jagar:
sometimes its nice to deliberately get the person to look at the camera, i coughed really loudly to get this guy to look at me, once he realized he let out a small smile but this was the instant before.

I would have called it a candid, not sure now :(



IT IS CANDID!


OK.
 10/27/2011 01:51:03 PM · #32
Originally posted by Kelli:
I hate these threads. My score has plummeted since it started. Oh, this is dnmc, and this is dnmc. Ridiculous. Form your own opinions people. Stop being sheep. Oh this is this person definition, so now I must go dnmc all these types of entries.


Mine too. Of course, the score is more where I expected it, now. But, as I posted it earlier, when this is over, I will have something to say.
 10/27/2011 01:57:55 PM · #33
Originally posted by Kelli:
I hate these threads. My score has plummeted since it started. Oh, this is dnmc, and this is dnmc. Ridiculous. Form your own opinions people. Stop being sheep. Oh this is this person definition, so now I must go dnmc all these types of entries.


interestingly, mine has taken a nose dive too. but i think it's because the last batch of voters just don't like it in general.
 10/27/2011 02:11:27 PM · #34
and mine, since this thread :(
 10/27/2011 02:22:16 PM · #35
Originally posted by jagar:
sometimes its nice to deliberately get the person to look at the camera, i coughed really loudly to get this guy to look at me, once he realized he let out a small smile but this was the instant before.

I would have called it a candid, not sure now :(


I think this thread has skewed a bit. I think some of us are talking about what makes an ideal candid and some are talking about what where the outer edge if what could be considered a candid. If it isn't posed, its a candid. The list for my personal enjoyment of an ideal candid is much, much longer and it would start with an image which lets us into an unguarded moment where true insight is given into the subject when they believe themselves to be unobserved. My own submission certainly fails that test, and many others in the challenge do as well. I don't believe these submissions are DNMC, they just are not ideal.

Voltaire said that the best is the enemy of the good, but he was a satirist. Good is still good even though it falls short of the ideal.

Message edited by author 2011-10-27 14:23:16.
 10/27/2011 02:26:29 PM · #36
Originally posted by Kelli:
I hate these threads. My score has plummeted since it started. Oh, this is dnmc, and this is dnmc. Ridiculous. Form your own opinions people. Stop being sheep. Oh this is this person definition, so now I must go dnmc all these types of entries.


My experience has been that votes are generally lower on Thursdays for the open challenges. If your score is going to fall, it will drop the most in the 50-120 vote range.

Tim
 10/27/2011 02:57:42 PM · #37
I don't think the threads have anything to do with it, actually. I've seen these types of threads open people's mind a bit more. And when I get low votes, I like having read the thread to understand where people are coming from. Makes me feel a little better that I understand the people think it doesn't fit the challenge instead of them thinking that the photo sucks. (I'm sure I'm getting "Photo sucks" votes, as well. But since they're not saying DNMC or sucks, I'll choose to believe it's a DNMC vote. :)

Mine keeps dropping, as well. But I expected many people to have some biases against it. I'm just hoping that others see what I saw in it. :)
 10/27/2011 03:02:17 PM · #38
One of my 3 comments gave me kudos for actually having a candid shot and my score isn't great. I don't think this thread has anything to do with the scores.
 10/27/2011 05:03:34 PM · #39
"The list for my personal enjoyment of an ideal candid is much, much longer and it would start with an image which lets us into an unguarded moment where true insight is given into the subject when they believe themselves to be unobserved. My own submission certainly fails that test, and many others in the challenge do as well. I don't believe these submissions are DNMC, they just are not ideal." brennanOB

You are very kind by saying that they are not ideal. A lot of candid images, in general, are just point and shoot pics with no meaning whatsoever. But as a requirement of a candid image, you are certainly right.
 10/27/2011 06:18:28 PM · #40
I'm a little surprised at the credit given to the posted list and DNMC opinions.

Is my score dropping due to the undermining "List Lemmings" or due rather to a variety of interpretation that encompasses the DPC culture as a whole?

The comments received indicate clearly opposing opinions...how am I to know?!!!!

The truth is I will remain forever unenlightened and gladly so...but the challenge is entertaining nonetheless...;-)

11/02/2011 12:07:37 AM · #41
okay. I'm back.

I had to bite my tongue in this discussion because mine was one of those that wasn't a candid because "he's looking at you."

Well. he was. but not intentionally.



This young man was swinging on a tire swing, and if you've ever watched one, they not only swing back and forth but also spin around a lot. The fact that he is facing me is a complete and total fluke. This is a frozen instant in time, and the reality is that he probably didn't even see me, even though it looks like he froze the swing in mid-air to pose for me.

Do I think it is a candid, in the truest sense of the word? Yes.

Does it look like it is? No.

And that is why, earlier in the thread, I simply stated that things are not as they always appear.
 11/02/2011 06:30:30 PM · #42
Originally posted by karmat:
And that is why, earlier in the thread, I simply stated that things are not as they always appear.


I agree things aren't always as they appear... but as a voter, what else do we have to go by other than "as they appear?"
 11/02/2011 06:33:32 PM · #43
Originally posted by alanfreed:
Originally posted by karmat:
And that is why, earlier in the thread, I simply stated that things are not as they always appear.


I agree things aren't always as they appear... but as a voter, what else do we have to go by other than "as they appear?"

Imagination?
 11/02/2011 06:42:54 PM · #44


"Above all, I craved to seize the whole essence, in the confines of one single photograph, of some situation that was in the process of unrolling itself before my eyes."

Henri Cartier-Bresson
 11/02/2011 06:57:25 PM · #45
Originally posted by alanfreed:
Originally posted by karmat:
And that is why, earlier in the thread, I simply stated that things are not as they always appear.


I agree things aren't always as they appear... but as a voter, what else do we have to go by other than "as they appear?"


our receptivity?
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