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04/07/2004 07:16:14 AM · #1
"From the car to the roulette table, wheels of all types abound! Your challenge this week is to capture any type of wheel in your photograph."

Where oh, where does it say the wheel has to be the main subject of the photo. Yes, many did choose the wheel as the main subject but since the challenge did NOT state that the wheel had to be the main subject PLEASE DON'T VOTE AS THOUGH IT DID! I understand voting down if the challenge is not followed but seriously, if the challenge tells us to capture any type of wheel in your photograph...any entry with a wheel meets the challenge. Mine is cropped to be sure the wheels are even placed according to the rule of thirds. THERE! Now, I feel better and I can go back to enjoying my new camera!
04/07/2004 08:40:00 AM · #2
The challenge is "Wheels" that means that is what the photo is supposed to be of.

Edit: That's my opinion anyway. Sorry if you disagree

Message edited by author 2004-04-07 08:40:53.
04/07/2004 08:52:11 AM · #3
I had a picture that I really like but my wife said, "isn't this a wheels challenge, not the corner of a vehicle challenge?" It was composed keeping the rule of thirds in mind and it's subject was isolated with shallow DOF. I didn't enter it because I knew it would meet the fate that yours seems to have; I entered something totally different. Personally, if someone takes the time to compose a shot carefully as I described above and it is interesting for some reason, I wouldn't mark it down; nothing in the challenge outline said "must fill the frame" or "wheels only."
04/07/2004 09:09:53 AM · #4
I think most people vote with the mind set that whatever the challenge is, this challenge subject should add to the photo's communication considerably.
04/07/2004 09:30:33 AM · #5
I think only if the photo does NOT contain wheels should it be voted down for not meeting the challenge. Sometimes you need the context to make the wheels interesting. Just a plain wheel is not exactly an interesting photo in my opinion. I was so hoping for comments about the photo...since it meets the challenge....but mostly people are telling me that wheels are not the main subject when the challenge did not state that wheels had to be the main subject.
04/07/2004 09:46:23 AM · #6
Like David, I think most voters feel that because the challenge title is "Wheels", that the main subject is implied to be wheels. For example, by your definition, there could be a great, fantastic scenic view of the Grand Canyon. Down at the bottom in the canyon is a tiny mule pulling a two-wheeled cart. Just because there is a wheel somewhere in the picture doesn't mean that the voters will see that photo as "meeting the challenge", since the photo is more about the scenery of the Grand Canyon rather than the wheel on the cart...

A good litmus test is to show somebody unfamiliar with the challenge a picture and say "give me a few words that could be used to describe the theme of this shot". If they allude to wheels after a few seconds, then it is probably gonna be OK for most voters. If they rattle on about scenery, flowers, pretty colors, etc. then the voters are not likely to see the "wheels" connection either.

Just my 2¢
04/07/2004 10:04:34 AM · #7
Well put, Eddy. I'll keep my 2 cents and piggyback off his :)

ps ... where'd you get the cents sign?
04/07/2004 10:07:31 AM · #8
My sentiments exactly Eddy. :-)
04/07/2004 10:08:01 AM · #9
My wife talked me out of submitting a photo of a screwdriver. She told me it would score horribly because people would assume it didn't meet the challenge. However, a screwdriver is a classic example of the wheel and axel. The bit is the axel and the handle, by providing an increased radius to the bit thereby providing a mechanical advantage, is a wheel.

Something tells me she was right. I should have gone with it anyway just to see.
04/07/2004 10:13:30 AM · #10
I'd like to do what other people do and show you lot the picture that I was going to submit, but I'm not sure how to get the little thumbnail in here and link it to the big picture.
I have the photo in my portfolio.
Can anyone help me?

P.S it is a rant, because the reason I didn't submit the photo is because my camera reset the date and I didn't check before I took the picture, therefore making the pictcure DQ worthy :-(

Thanks!
04/07/2004 10:15:07 AM · #11
04/07/2004 10:15:31 AM · #12
This tutorial describes the process...

//www.dpchallenge.com/tutorial.php?TUTORIAL_ID=17
04/07/2004 10:18:01 AM · #13
Wow!
Thanks Hopper, that's kind of scary that you can do that.
But thanks!

Anyway, what do you think?
I managed to submit something else with a couple of hours to go, but I prefered this one.
04/07/2004 10:29:10 AM · #14
It's a nice picture. But due to the tight cropping, it's more of a semi-circle than a wheel. Therefore, I would have given it a 1 for not meeting the challenge.
04/07/2004 10:30:11 AM · #15
LOL!!!!
04/07/2004 11:20:57 AM · #16
Road Signs - Revisted - Ribbon Winners



There is no doubt in any of those photos that the theme of the photo was the "road sign". In each photo the "road sign" is the central focal point.
04/07/2004 12:20:38 PM · #17
I'm getting reamed on my shot! THe focal point of my shot is of a wheel. I mean, how many shots could one look at with just the whell & nothing else?
04/07/2004 12:49:03 PM · #18
Too bad I took this shot last year! Oh well


I started at a 7 last night til I went to bed 3am.... I woke up to see a 4.5 this morning. Ugh April Fools was last week guys! lol
04/07/2004 01:02:23 PM · #19
I'm taking a beating as well (5.3), but I knew I was going to ... my picture's boring as hell. I just haven't played in a couple of weeks and wanted in :)
04/07/2004 01:28:43 PM · #20
Originally posted by Rooster:

I'm getting reamed on my shot! THe focal point of my shot is of a wheel. I mean, how many shots could one look at with just the whell & nothing else?


Hope you do well Rooster, you alwasy come thru with some great photos.

I was being sarcastic in my previous post... I think the voters this time are somewhat fickle. Using Eddy's test and showing people the top three pictures from Road Signs Revisted only one person in seven correctly identified the theme and that was only on one picture.

Maybe this is a good thing though. The current trend makes judging photos easier imo.
04/07/2004 02:20:20 PM · #21
Not to nit pick, but shouldn't all the shots af a single wheel be voted down because the challenge was "Wheels" after all? I think now that I have read this rant and come to that conclusion i'll have to go back and lower a whole bunch of scores!

edit: (tongue firmly in cheek)

Message edited by author 2004-04-07 14:21:24.
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