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10/02/2011 11:24:40 AM · #1 |
They are being custom framed - my do says v groove - 11x14+2
raised mat 13x16 ( rabbet size)
And then 11X 14 image size
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I got the above specs from the organizer of a hospital charity thing I'm doing. She doesn't know what they mean, exactly. Neither do I.
So what actual size should I make the prints?
Does the above mean the inner matte dimensions are 11x14, so I should make the prints 11.5x14.5 to give some play to fit under the matte?
There will be about 30 prints, help Slippeh!
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 11:25:53.
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10/02/2011 11:34:28 AM · #2 |
That is correct. The size of the opening in the smallest matte is 11x14 inches. You don't need half an inch of slop, either. These are clearly being professionally framed. An eighth of an inch on each edge will be plenty. Print 11 1/4 x 14 1/4, I'd say.
R.
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 11:35:43.
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10/02/2011 11:44:04 AM · #3 |
Originally posted by Strikeslip:
They are being custom framed - my do says v groove - 11x14+2
raised mat 13x16 ( rabbet size)
And then 11X 14 image size
Does the above mean the inner matte dimensions are 11x14, so I should make the prints 11.5x14.5 to give some play to fit under the matte?
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I say go for that
ETA: alternatively you could follow the bear's advice, especially if you feel for whatever inexplicable reason that his advice is more reliable than mine :)
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 11:48:35. |
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10/02/2011 11:49:29 AM · #4 |
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10/02/2011 11:54:20 AM · #5 |
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10/02/2011 12:22:15 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
You don't need half an inch of slop, either. These are clearly being professionally framed. An eighth of an inch on each edge will be plenty. Print 11 1/4 x 14 1/4, I'd say.
R. |
Are you talking about the image size or the print (paper) size here?" |
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10/02/2011 12:34:30 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
You don't need half an inch of slop, either. These are clearly being professionally framed. An eighth of an inch on each edge will be plenty. Print 11 1/4 x 14 1/4, I'd say.
R. |
Are you talking about the image size or the print (paper) size here?" |
Image size, probably printed on 13x17 paper. A little oversize to allow slop for matting.
R.
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 12:34:41.
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10/02/2011 12:40:29 PM · #8 |
Thanks -- I wanted to clarify because I almost always put a border on my prints to that I don't lose any of the image in the printer.
BTW: I'm considering getting a mat cutter; any recommendations other than having them done at a framing shop instead?
Why does matting/framing cost ten times the cost of the print? :-(
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 12:42:20. |
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10/02/2011 12:48:46 PM · #9 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Thanks -- I wanted to clarify because I almost always put a border on my prints to that I don't lose any of the image in the printer.
BTW: I'm considering getting a mat cutter; any recommendations other than having them done at a framing shop instead?
Why does matting/framing cost ten times the cost of the print? :-( |
Penny has one of these Simplex Plus 750 professional cutters, and they are fantastic. But the price is 200 bucks or so these days.
I've used matte cutters like this one in the past, and they work pretty well but it's REALLY Hard to be spot-on precise with them. You can waste a lot of board making errors with these.
Why is matte cutting so expensive? Because it's REALLY nit-picky, precise work that burns up a lot of time and, if the people aren't very good at it, a lot of wasted materials. And if the people ARE good, well they get paid more I'm sure :-)
R.
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 12:49:10.
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10/02/2011 12:56:24 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Thanks -- I wanted to clarify because I almost always put a border on my prints to that I don't lose any of the image in the printer.
BTW: I'm considering getting a mat cutter; any recommendations other than having them done at a framing shop instead?
Why does matting/framing cost ten times the cost of the print? :-( |
I use Logan 301s and I'm pretty satisfied with it.
I bought myself a box of acid free mat board a few years ago because several times a year we had to expose our work and present it to a jury.
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10/02/2011 12:57:35 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Why is matte cutting so expensive? Because it's REALLY nit-picky, precise work that burns up a lot of time and, if the people aren't very good at it, a lot of wasted materials. And if the people ARE good, well they get paid more I'm sure :-)
R. |
Yeah, I used to get paid pretty well for stripping up negatives too ... and unless you keep matting pregressively smaller prints it seems there's bound to be a ton of wastage no matter what. What do people do with the "donut holes"? |
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10/02/2011 01:05:16 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Why is matte cutting so expensive? Because it's REALLY nit-picky, precise work that burns up a lot of time and, if the people aren't very good at it, a lot of wasted materials. And if the people ARE good, well they get paid more I'm sure :-)
R. |
Yeah, I used to get paid pretty well for stripping up negatives too ... and unless you keep matting pregressively smaller prints it seems there's bound to be a ton of wastage no matter what. What do people do with the "donut holes"? |
You can mount 4" x 6" prints on them.
:)
I think I still have a mat cutter - I wonder where I stuck it...and hope I never find it again. |
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10/02/2011 01:07:08 PM · #13 |
If they are large enough I use them to cut a second mat for a small picture frame.
Otherwise I don't see anything what can be done with them.
Perhaps some original ideas will come now :) |
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10/02/2011 01:53:11 PM · #14 |
| Is 'matte board' what is known in English as 'passepartout'. If so, did it get that way by the same route as freedom fries? |
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10/02/2011 02:01:16 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by raish:
Is 'matte board' what is known in English as 'passepartout'. If so, did it get that way by the same route as freedom fries? |
Well, that MIGHT make sense if you reversed it, since "passepartout" is FRENCH, but only IF "passepartout" is the French word for what we know, in English, as "Matte Board", which I strongly doubt, and this leads me to the conclusion that you're practicing your nonsense for the upcoming challenge, to which I respond, lovingly but acerbically, "Honey sworkey Mollypants" and challenge you to source out your e. e. cummings :-)
R.
Message edited by author 2011-10-02 14:03:19.
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10/02/2011 03:48:33 PM · #16 |
Indeed, matboard in English is a passe-partout in French.
In Dutch we use the same French word.
Note: a passe-partout is also a key that fits on every lock ;) |
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10/02/2011 03:52:26 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by Nadine_Vb:
Indeed, matboard in English is a passe-partout in French.
In Dutch we use the same French word.
Note: a passe-partout is also a key that fits on every lock ;) |
Well, I'll be damned...
R.
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10/02/2011 04:05:27 PM · #18 |
I suspect hell fire and damnation is in or around the field of what mr Cummings was getting at ...
disambiguation |
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10/02/2011 04:13:40 PM · #19 |
| ah, the beauty of languages :) |
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