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 08/31/2011 03:27:59 PM · #1
Considering that I got a DQ for the Lego challenge I don't wanna be DQ'd once again.

I was studying an image for the portrait challenge but what I can't understand are the limits of Expert Editing. I mean what can I create directly in PS? Can I create something like fog, lights, lens flares or is it forbidden? WHat I can get from the rules is that what is forbidden is creating new shapes... is it correct?
 08/31/2011 03:29:19 PM · #2
I forgot: can we use brushes?
 08/31/2011 03:36:24 PM · #3
You can create directly in PS whatever you like, as long as you are the actual creator, i.e. no downloaded photo/picture/clipart, no downloaded brushes. Of course if you create many things, or end up drawing everything from scratch, you would probably receive some low votes.
 08/31/2011 03:42:39 PM · #4
Ok, now things become clear :)

But what about brushes? It's not always easy to recognize the use of a brush, isn't it? But this is just for curiosity.

P.s. are you wasting time to answer me here?! You have 12 questions waiting for you... eheh!
 08/31/2011 04:03:16 PM · #5
Not always easy, true... but for example, if you add some eyelashes brush, it will look quite realistic, and in case of a validation request you could be in trouble without an actual photo of eyelashes.

Now if you create your own brushes from photos you took within the week, then no problem.

Oh, and yes, I know about the 12 questions, but I first have to think a bit about them ;)
 08/31/2011 04:06:08 PM · #6
Originally posted by gyaban:
Oh, and yes, I know about the 12 questions, but I first have to think a bit about them ;)


Eheh... I was joking :)
 08/31/2011 04:21:13 PM · #7
If I add a texture that I didn't source but comes built into an editing package - is that OK to use. It is a proper texture, isn't discerable as anything else....

Thanks

Paul
 08/31/2011 04:32:44 PM · #8
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
If I add a texture that I didn't source but comes built into an editing package - is that OK to use. It is a proper texture, isn't discerable as anything else....

Thanks

Paul


Better not take any chances, I would pull the entry! ;)

L
 08/31/2011 04:33:11 PM · #9
Yes Paul, it absolutely is ok to use a texture from an outside source, as long as you use it as a texture, and not a new element in your picture.

For example, adding a paper feeling to your image is ok, but adding a paper plane flying over the scene is not.
 08/31/2011 04:34:01 PM · #10
Originally posted by LVicari:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
If I add a texture that I didn't source but comes built into an editing package - is that OK to use. It is a proper texture, isn't discerable as anything else....

Thanks

Paul


Better not take any chances, I would pull the entry! ;)

L


Oh man...don't tell me you are entering....shite!
 08/31/2011 04:35:36 PM · #11
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by LVicari:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
If I add a texture that I didn't source but comes built into an editing package - is that OK to use. It is a proper texture, isn't discerable as anything else....

Thanks

Paul


Better not take any chances, I would pull the entry! ;)

L


Oh man...don't tell me you are entering....shite!

I really want to! I am trying at this very minute to pull it together to make it happen.
So cross your fingers. :)

08/31/2011 04:39:55 PM · #12
Originally posted by LVicari:
Originally posted by Judi:
Originally posted by LVicari:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
If I add a texture that I didn't source but comes built into an editing package - is that OK to use. It is a proper texture, isn't discerable as anything else....

Thanks

Paul


Better not take any chances, I would pull the entry! ;)

L


Oh man...don't tell me you are entering....shite!

I really want to! I am trying at this very minute to pull it together to make it happen.
So cross your fingers. :)


I'm crossing everything....but just don't beat me this time!!!
 08/31/2011 04:40:47 PM · #13
Originally posted by gyaban:
Yes Paul, it absolutely is ok to use a texture from an outside source, as long as you use it as a texture, and not a new element in your picture.

For example, adding a paper feeling to your image is ok, but adding a paper plane flying over the scene is not.


Excellent - thanks. i'm in then!
 08/31/2011 04:42:39 PM · #14
Originally posted by LVicari:
Originally posted by paulbtlw:
If I add a texture that I didn't source but comes built into an editing package - is that OK to use. It is a proper texture, isn't discerable as anything else....

Thanks

Paul


Better not take any chances, I would pull the entry! ;)

L


Hmmmm.... I'll take my chances with this AND my most excellent Free Study image ;-)
 08/31/2011 04:49:05 PM · #15
An occasional DQ while striving to uphold rigorous standards of ...


we all deserve punishment, after all
 08/31/2011 05:41:34 PM · #16
from someone who got dq'd from an expert editing challenge, be careful with how you apply texture if you don't do it right you risk a dq. i plan on entering again and i plan on using textures, so if i get dq'd again so be it. i thought i applied a texture before and didn't do it right but hey it was a learning experience.
 08/31/2011 08:56:19 PM · #17
so am i allowed to use brushes i download? if not why not?
 08/31/2011 09:00:19 PM · #18
what about adding space to a photo. Or can I cut and paste and image onto a plain black background created in photoshop?
 08/31/2011 09:01:33 PM · #19
Originally posted by sjhuls:
what about adding space to a photo. Or can I cut and paste and image onto a plain black background created in photoshop?


there is nothing against creating new image area..

Message edited by author 2011-08-31 21:01:48.
 08/31/2011 09:07:33 PM · #20
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by sjhuls:
what about adding space to a photo. Or can I cut and paste and image onto a plain black background created in photoshop?


there is nothing against creating new image area..


That's what I thought but you can never be too careful.
 08/31/2011 09:09:49 PM · #21
im worried about the brushes... i read earlier you cant use custom brushes, which would be stupid. its expert editing, let us have some fun.

Message edited by author 2011-08-31 21:10:19.
 08/31/2011 09:11:12 PM · #22
Originally posted by mike_311:
im worried about the brushes... i read earlier you cant use custom brushes, which would be stupid. its expert editing, let us have some fun.


I don't know about brushes, I've never used them before.
 08/31/2011 09:11:12 PM · #23
Originally posted by mike_311:
so am i allowed to use brushes i download? if not why not?


Simply because they are classed as clip art. If you make your own from your own photos taken within the timeframe then they are allowed. But downloaded brushes are the same as using someone elses textures or photos.
 08/31/2011 09:19:09 PM · #24
but we can use someones else's textures...
 08/31/2011 09:46:49 PM · #25
Im glad this thread came up. I sent a question to sc asking if i may have violated some rules by using downloaded texture, manipulated it beyond recognition and used the result as part of my background. They havent responded yet but after reading this thread, i decided to play safe. Captured my own texture shot and re-edited.

Pretty happy with the results.
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