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08/19/2011 02:14:59 PM · #1
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08/19/2011 02:18:57 PM · #2
"I believe this case is closed and there are no other individuals involved," he said.

I guess he means apart from the DEAD kids and their FAMILIES.... Unbelievable...
08/19/2011 02:54:26 PM · #3
hard to understand when things like that happen - both the murders and benig let out early or at all
08/19/2011 03:04:01 PM · #4
If any of the victims had been my kids, those three should run fast and far as soon as they walk out the door.

08/19/2011 03:07:07 PM · #5
I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.
08/19/2011 03:14:59 PM · #6
What is wrong with this country has more to do with the fact that we tend to jump to conclusions based on tabloid news without all the facts and not so much individual cases like this.

Message edited by author 2011-08-19 15:15:12.
08/19/2011 03:22:16 PM · #7
Originally posted by jbsmithana:

What is wrong with this country has more to do with the fact that we tend to jump to conclusions based on tabloid news without all the facts and not so much individual cases like this.


+1001
08/19/2011 03:25:45 PM · #8
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often


casey anthony anyone?
08/19/2011 03:27:33 PM · #9
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.
08/19/2011 03:27:33 PM · #10
Originally posted by FourPointX:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often


casey anthony anyone?

Well she's guilty as hell. :P
08/19/2011 03:28:07 PM · #11
Originally posted by FourPointX:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often


casey anthony anyone?


She's much better looking.
08/19/2011 03:28:21 PM · #12
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???
08/19/2011 03:29:34 PM · #13
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by FourPointX:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often


casey anthony anyone?

Well she's guilty as hell. :P


it certainly would appear so to almost ANYONE looking from the outside, but fact remains the da pressed forward with a case without sufficient evidence to convict. appears at least similar to this case in that aspect.
08/19/2011 03:31:59 PM · #14
Oh that country.
08/19/2011 03:36:52 PM · #15
Originally posted by FourPointX:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by FourPointX:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often


casey anthony anyone?

Well she's guilty as hell. :P


it certainly would appear so to almost ANYONE looking from the outside, but fact remains the da pressed forward with a case without sufficient evidence to convict. appears at least similar to this case in that aspect.

The difference was one case resulted in convictions, the other did not. Based on what I've seen and read, they both resulted in gross injustice - maybe for some of the same reasons, maybe for different reasons.

I try not to rush to judgment and have seen enough to be very skeptical of police and prosecutors side of the story as much as I am of the accused. Bottom line is that guilty people go free and innocent people go to prison - those are the caveats of our justice system - all we can do is keep both to a minimum.
08/19/2011 03:41:59 PM · #16
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.

08/19/2011 03:42:32 PM · #17
Police fabricate & lie... Happens all the time right around me in Canada...

Lawsuit claims police violated civil rights

As with any case against the police, the court lets them off Scott Free.

ETA... Here's a video of the police interrogation. The cop, obviously telling lie after lie...
CHCH News: Michael Dixon's police interview

Message edited by author 2011-08-19 15:45:45.
08/19/2011 03:49:08 PM · #18
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.

It was an argument based on evidence and lack thereof and not made by the convicts, but by independent investigators. Keep up, Sporko.
08/19/2011 03:55:53 PM · #19
Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.

It was an argument based on evidence and lack thereof and not made by the convicts, but by independent investigators. Keep up, Sporko.


Independent? Suuuuure...paid for by people who wanted them freed.
08/19/2011 04:19:34 PM · #20
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by jbsmithana:

What is wrong with this country has more to do with the fact that we tend to jump to conclusions based on tabloid news without all the facts and not so much individual cases like this.


+1001

I don't see what jumping... If they were wrongly convicted then hold a retrial... if acquitted then they should be entitled to compensation for wrongful conviction & detention, otherwise put back in prison / death row. It's the plea bargains and deals that give me the bad taste.

Your right, I don't know the facts but I would expect a retrial to get to that with a decision. There would need to be impetus for the retrial - new evidence or whatever, so let a jury hear it and decide.
08/19/2011 04:31:29 PM · #21
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.

It was an argument based on evidence and lack thereof and not made by the convicts, but by independent investigators. Keep up, Sporko.


Independent? Suuuuure...paid for by people who wanted them freed.


must we let another media scandal tear us apart?
08/19/2011 04:39:49 PM · #22
Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.

It was an argument based on evidence and lack thereof and not made by the convicts, but by independent investigators. Keep up, Sporko.


Independent? Suuuuure...paid for by people who wanted them freed.


must we let another media scandal tear us apart?

Too late! The damage is done. Sporko has been permanently removed from my Christmas card list. ...well at least for the next month or two. :P
08/19/2011 05:18:55 PM · #23
Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.


Wait a minute! I've seen bigfoot with my own two eyes. I know he's real!
08/19/2011 05:21:24 PM · #24
Originally posted by Spork99:



Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.


Well, that one was kinda proven wasn't it?

//www.popsci.com/technology/article/2011-05/secret-stealth-helicopters-ferried-troops-obl-kill-operation
08/19/2011 05:35:27 PM · #25
Originally posted by blindjustice:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

Originally posted by Spork99:

Originally posted by Art Roflmao:

I watched a special investigation on that case recently - they made a very convincing case that these three kids were railroaded and were wrongly convicted. You'd have to see all the evidence and judge for yourself, but the need to convict anyone because of political pressure creates these situations quite often and once the police and prosecutors target someone, they often become extremely myopic and throw out any sense of justice in favor of a conviction.

What happened to the boys made me sick to my stomach. Thinking that they put the wrong people in prison for it made me almost as sick.


There are no guilty people in prison, they make pretty convincing arguments too.

point???


Just because there's a convincing argument, doesn't make something so.

People make convincing arguments about all kinds of things; bigfoot, aliens, Nessie, black helicopters and so on ad infinitum. It doesn't make them any more real.

It was an argument based on evidence and lack thereof and not made by the convicts, but by independent investigators. Keep up, Sporko.


Independent? Suuuuure...paid for by people who wanted them freed.


must we let another media scandal tear us apart?
Yes, and you are blind :-P
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