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03/31/2004 10:56:18 PM · #1

Here it is. According to Vancouver (Canada) dealers it should sell somewhere around CDN $ 6.000.

04/01/2004 12:46:18 AM · #2

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Here it is. According to Vancouver (Canada) dealers it should sell somewhere around CDN $ 6.000.

Isn't it gorgeous???? It's in first place on my Christmas list! Just look at it, "love at first site"!!!

Russell2566

04/01/2004 01:03:59 AM · #3

Originally posted by zeuszen:

should sell somewhere around CDN $ 6.000.

WOW, only 500 bucks US :) hehe Whats that around 4500usd?

04/01/2004 01:17:25 AM · #4

Originally posted by kiwiness:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
Here it is. According to Vancouver (Canada) dealers it should sell somewhere around CDN $ 6.000.

Isn't it gorgeous???? It's in first place on my Christmas list! Just look at it, "love at first site"!!!

Can I borrow your platinum card?
I have an eye on the 10D, actually. The advent of the Mark II might just effect prices...

Sell me yours, ki?

04/01/2004 01:18:01 AM · #5

Originally posted by Russell2566:

Originally posted by zeuszen:
should sell somewhere around CDN $ 6.000.

WOW, only 500 bucks US :) hehe Whats that around 4500usd?

Yes, about that.

Natator

Canon EOS-5D

04/01/2004 01:22:15 AM · #6

I love my 10D, I am never letting go of my 10D, it will be with me for many years to come. Why would I possibly want a 1D when I already have my faithful 10D?

*goes off and checks out the specs of the 1D*

Anyone want to buy a 10D??????????????????

04/01/2004 01:24:44 AM · #7

Originally posted by Natator:

Yes.

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/01/2004 01:27:09 AM · #8

Originally posted by zeuszen:

Sell me yours, ki?

I'll keep you in mind Zeus, but I will probably keep it :) Crabappl3 has two D100's.... I want two toooo :)

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

04/01/2004 01:33:42 AM · #9

Well I am waiting for the Digital Rebel Mark II!

It must be just around the corner.

I want 8 MPixels, and 8 frames per second!

(Actually, I'd consider the pro 1 but it does seem noisy compared to the CMOS based SLRs. I guess most of all, I want high ISO withouth noise.)

KevinRiggs

Canon EOS-1Ds

04/01/2004 03:25:23 AM · #10

OK. Someone enlighten me.

Hasn't this been out for awhile? I thought Canon released it just before PMA and I've seen the $4500 USD from the beginning. Maybe I'm overlooking something 'cause I just woke up and it is the middle of the night (thanks, insomnia elf - jk).

I was all stoked about getting one of these over the next 18 months or so but I've read some on DPreview.com and FredMiranda.com about how the images are softer out of the camera than from the 1Ds. It sounds like (and God knows I haven't shot this piece of equipment) this is designed more for speed and web/newsprint viewing than for fine art photography. I know some of Canon's Masters of Light photogs are shooting it professionally and it sounds like its great for lower light and high shutter speed but I still read where for advertising and fine art a lot of folks would rather buy a 1Ds body or hope for an update at Photokina. I'm not knocking it, 8mp is 8mp and it does have the DigicII processor as well as having a greater dynamic range from what I've read and tons of other advances to boot. I just have read that it is directed towards a segment of the industry/photogs rather than being the ultimate giant killer.
link to FW forum post

Originally posted by author:

Also Uwe Stein at Digital Outback took a quick look at the 1D-II. His big finding is a real disappointment: Canon is using a strong AA filter on the 1D-II like on the 10D, and unlike the 1D which had a relatively weak filter. So like the 10D and unlike the 1D, images out of the camera are relatively soft.

I'm just jabbering on until my eyes become unglued and I can actually see what I've written.

Looking for enlightenment (hehehehe sometimes I just make myself laugh)
:)

Kev

Message edited by author 2004-04-01 03:31:44.

EddyG

04/01/2004 08:46:56 AM · #11

Originally posted by KevinRiggs:

Hasn't this been out for awhile?

It was announced a while ago, but Canon has not shipped anything but review units. Presumably, the press (like Sports Illustrated) will be some of the first to get the new cameras, and they seem to be looking forward to them. By the way, if you haven't read about SI's "digital workflow", this is a very interesting read about their coverage at the SuperBowl XXXVIII (16,183 digital pictures shot by 11 staff photographers!)

Originally posted by KevinRiggs:

I was all stoked about getting one of these over the next 18 months or so but I've read some on DPreview.com and FredMiranda.com about how the images are softer out of the camera than from the 1Ds.

Well, I personally put a lot of faith in Chuck Westfall, Canon USA's Director/Technical Information. Some comments about the softness of the image were mentioned in this thread, and quoting a snippet:

Chuck has posted here [previously] that the MK II needs less USM than any other Canon DSLR but those shots don't agree.

to which Chuck replied:

Make some comparison prints between original 1D and Mark II before you decide who is right.

The 1D is considered to have some of the sharpest out-of-the-camera pictures around, much moreso than the 1Ds, which also needs a fair amount of sharpening. And remember that the anti-aliasing filter is there for a reason, to prevent moire. Take a look at this 1Ds review which shows the out-of-the-camera result of having too weak of an AA filter. (There are photoshop plug-ins that usually clean up moire, but still, it is processing you have to do in post.)

It seems to me (and a lot of others agree) that it is better to sharpen in post, where you can control the sharpening with precision.

All that being said, check out this review (originally in German), especially the sample pictures at the bottom.

Message edited by author 2004-04-01 08:49:30.

KevinRiggs

Canon EOS-1Ds

Canon EF-S 60mm f/2.8 Macro USM

04/01/2004 10:18:00 AM · #12

Cool.

Thanks alot, Eddy. I appreciate the links to this info as I've really been looking at doing photography seriously. $4500USD or 7000 is just a huge expense. I can get away with the occasional $1500 but those bodies are a serious commitment for me.

Kev

dadas115

Canon EOS-1000D Rebel XS

04/01/2004 10:37:50 AM · #13

I just wish they would hurry up and start shipping. Mine is all paid for and I am just waiting for them to arrive from Canon. It seems like an eternity!

Greg

Jason

04/01/2004 11:08:09 AM · #14

Sweet sweet music!

1D MII @ 63 Frames in 9 Seconds

Ripped from this page

It's my new ring tone on my cell. :)

mariomel

Canon EOS-5D

04/01/2004 03:46:41 PM · #15

Originally posted by nshapiro:

Well I am waiting for the Digital Rebel Mark II!

I saw this earlier:

Press Release

CANON'S NEW EOS DIGITAL REBEL ROCKS THE CAMERA WORLD WITH AFFORDABLE NEW 8.3 MEGAPIXEL AUTOFOCUS SLR New Digital Rebel/70-400 F4 L mm Lens Kit

Arrives in Stores Around Mid September With An Estimated Selling Price of $499*

LAKE SUCCESS, N.Y., Apr. 1, 2004 ? The Canon EOS Rebel has gone digital,again. Adding to the world's most popular line of autofocus SLR cameras, the new EOS Digital Rebel combines the quality, affordability and ease of use the Rebel is renowned for with the immediacy, vitality and economy that digital delivers. Sleek and stylish ? with a high-grade pure titanium case? the Digital Rebel puts the power and flexibility of a single lens reflex camera into a compact, light weight, high performance, high resolution 8.3 megapixel package.

"With this Digital Rebel we have added 'affordable' to the lexicon of digital SLRs," said Yukiaki Hashimoto, senior vice president and general manager of the Consumer Imaging Group at Canon U.S.A., Inc., a subsidiary of Canon Inc. (NYSE:CAJ). "By leveraging the design, engineering, and manufacturing expertise gained developing EOS pro-digital SLRs, Canon is able to bring the Digital Rebel Mk2 SLR to consumers at a price point once reserved for digital point and shoots. As we have with other benchmark products such as the AE-1, Sure Shot, Rebel and ELPH, we expect to dominate an entirely new market category. For price, power, and performance, this is one Canon that will blow the market away."

Price and Availability

The EOS Digital Rebel Mk2 will be offered in two kit configurations: with or without the EF 70-200mm f/4 L zoom lens. Initial shipments of each kit will begin in mid-September. The estimated selling price for the zoom lens kit which includes a battery pack and charger, plus software, manuals, interface cables, neckstrap and Canon U.S.A. limited warranty will be $499*. The estimated selling price for the body-only kit with the same accessories and limited warranty will be $399*.

Image Excellence and the DIGIC? Difference

From the optical excellence of Canon's extensive line of EF lenses to the large format 8.3 megapixel CMOS sensor (with its 27.7 x 17.1mm image format and 3:2 aspect ratio), the Digital Rebel Mk2 captures brilliant images and then ? thanks to Canon's exclusive DIGIC? (Digital Imaging Integrated Circuit) Imaging Processor ? takes image quality to a new level.

The Digital Rebel's shutter speeds range from 1/8,000 of a second to 30 seconds plus Bulb, while a built-in motor drive enables the camera to capture 10.5 frames per second in continuous shooting mode for bursts of up to ten shots. There are 12 shooting modes including Program AE, Shutter-priority AE, Aperture-priority

AE, Auto Depth-of-Field AE and Manual as well as Full Auto, Portrait, Landscape, Close-up, Action, Nikon Moire-Effect, Night Scene, Voyeur, Up-skirt and Flash Off.

About Canon U.S.A., Inc.

Canon U.S.A., Inc. delivers consumer, business-to-business, and industrial
imaging solutions. The Company is listed as one of Fortune's Most Admired
Companies in America, and is ranked #43 on the Business Week list of "Top
100 Brands." Its parent company Canon Inc. (NYSE:CAJ) is a top
patent-holder of technology, ranking second overall in the U.S. in 2002,
with global revenues of $24.5 billion. Canon U.S.A. employs more than
10,000 people at over 30 locations. For more information, visit
//www.usa.canon.com.

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All referenced product names, and other marks, are trademarks of their
respective owners.

Unfortunately, this is a joke. Damn!

04/01/2004 04:12:48 PM · #16

Originally posted by Jason:

Sweet sweet music!

1D MII @ 63 Frames in 9 Seconds

Ripped from this page

It's my new ring tone on my cell. :)

Jason, music to my ears :) Sounds like a Kalashnikov!

ellamay

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

04/01/2004 05:53:17 PM · #17

I ordered mine today now I am waiting....come quick, come quick, come quick....

Nikon AF-S NIKKOR 24-70mm f/2.8G ED

04/01/2004 05:57:01 PM · #18

Originally posted by ellamay:

I ordered mine today now I am waiting....come quick, come quick, come quick....

You ordered a 1D Mark II? You only just got your Rebel!

Neil

Fujifilm X-T30

04/01/2004 05:57:46 PM · #19

Originally posted by mariomel:

Originally posted by nshapiro:
Well I am waiting for the Digital Rebel Mark II!

I saw this earlier:

[i]Press Release

CANON'S NEW EOS DIGITAL REBEL ROCKS THE CAMERA WORLD WITH AFFORDABLE NEW 8.3 MEGAPIXEL AUTOFOCUS SLR New Digital Rebel/70-400 F4 L mm Lens Kit

Arrives in Stores Around Mid September With An Estimated Selling Price of $499*

snip

What do mean a joke? I just preordered one.

LOL.

ellamay

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

04/01/2004 06:13:01 PM · #20

well kiwi
you are right, but i am lured in by the fast speed, I am desperate to get flying fast moving options in focus...besides, my trip to africa is probably a once in a life time thing and i really want to come home with some spectacular shots... and I am hoping I can convince my folks to give me some of my inheritance early : ) besides I am waiting for the canon 100-400mm to come in so ya know, I got to have a cam worthy of the lens (did i mention my compulsion to buy stuff i dont need : ))

jimmythefish

Canon EOS-10D

Canon EF 17-40mm f/4.0L USM

04/01/2004 06:36:39 PM · #21

If you really want good images, consider spending the money on lenses and not a new body. For African wildlife and that 100-400 the 1.6x would serve you well. The AF of the 1D will be awesome, yeah, but good god it's $4500 US! I'd personally spend the money on a 500/4 or something that'll serve you well for life. You'll get awesome images out of the Rebel and good glass. I'd find it hard to justify buying that kind of a body without seriously getting paid to use it.

Originally posted by ellamay:

Message edited by author 2004-04-01 18:37:16.

ellamay

Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS

04/01/2004 06:43:23 PM · #22

Well, it is selling for 5500.00 cdn. but, true enough it is a heck of a lot of money.

04/01/2004 06:50:09 PM · #23

Originally posted by ellamay:

Well, it is selling for 5500.00 cdn. but, true enough it is a heck of a lot of money.

It is a lot of money.... an amazing amount of money. But what the heck I will buy it anyway :)

EddyG