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06/17/2011 11:28:13 PM · #51 |
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06/18/2011 01:18:50 AM · #52 |
Originally posted by one2one:
Vancouver didn't have the team to win the cup. They played in a weak western conference and most of their wins came from beating very weak teams like Calgary, Colorado, Columbus and Edmonton. |
Yes such a weak team they won the President's Trophy. Their weakness was a tendency to dive for calls, and the occasional mental fragility of Roberto Luongo. Good enough to go 11-5-2 against the " more powerfull" eastern conference. Had Luongo played with the same steady concentration he played with against the Predators and the Sharks rather than having three terrible games and one mediocre game out of seven, it would have been done in five and Vancouver would never have shown that Canadians can riot too. A lot of credit for that poor performance goes to Boston, but the twenty twenty hindsight of saying Vancouver never "had the team to win the cup" was not shared by impartial observers (or the oddsmakers who installed Boston as a +200 underdog) before the series. Boston played well, and they got lucky, and they won in seven games, but to say Vancouver never had a chance is just silly.
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06/18/2011 08:34:00 AM · #53 |
Originally posted by scooter97:
Only in winter, eh? Who'd a thunk that?? :P |
Well uhm anyone who works at a border crossing can tell you that every so often in the summertime, some people will show up with a carload of wintertime activity gear and honestly do expect to go skiing etc. Happens less often these days but still happens! |
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06/18/2011 11:37:54 AM · #54 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
Originally posted by scooter97:
Only in winter, eh? Who'd a thunk that?? :P |
Well uhm anyone who works at a border crossing can tell you that every so often in the summertime, some people will show up with a carload of wintertime activity gear and honestly do expect to go skiing etc. Happens less often these days but still happens! |
The weather map probably throws them off with temps in Farenheit below the border and Celsius above. You'd think there was an ice wall at the 49th. |
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06/18/2011 03:52:54 PM · #55 |
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
You'd think there was an ice wall at the 49th. |
We get our knowledge of Canada from such sources as the McKenzie Brothers with their year round snowshoes and knit caps in the "Great White North". If our neighbor to the north is now subject to seasonal variance, is this due to global warming or have we been lied to all along? |
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06/18/2011 07:18:15 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
You'd think there was an ice wall at the 49th. |
We get our knowledge of Canada from such sources as the McKenzie Brothers with their year round snowshoes and knit caps in the "Great White North". If our neighbor to the north is now subject to seasonal variance, is this due to global warming or have we been lied to all along? |
Sort of. You can ski at Whistler year round. Just watch out for the bears.
Message edited by author 2011-06-18 19:18:43. |
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06/18/2011 08:46:11 PM · #57 |
 BrennanOB, I hope you're sitting down...
There is no ice wall at the 49th parallel. Never was one and with global warming, likely never will be. Most of Canada gets the full 4 seasons, and yeah, winter still tends to take up a lot of the calendar. Even so there have been many years where no real amount of snow has fallen til mid-late December and sticks around til April, even early May at times. (I'm talking Ottawa area here). When I lived in NW BC, there was still snow visible on the peaks of the Cascade mountains well into August.
Bob and Doug McKenzie were characters created to essentially fill two minutes of screen time on a comedy show with *Canadian* content, I believe in order to continue to receive funding. So they went hawg wild with the idea, obviously, and perpetuated every Canadian 'Eh?'-saying, beer-swilling, hockey-loving stereotype possible in as little time as possible. The movies didn't help much either :-/
Having said that,  RayEthier is a Mountie, and he may well have the red serge uniform stashed away for special occasions that require a full dress uniform. But otherwise he looks and acts like yer typical Canon-toting redhead :-)
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06/18/2011 09:45:35 PM · #58 |
snaffles, you're right. Perhaps not an ice wall, but an 'ice curtain.' I used to make the circuit every October from Hartford, CT to Syracuse , NY, then Buffalo, NY and finally on to Ottawa, visiting friends and relatives all the way. By the time I got to Ottawa, I was glad I packed my long-johns (not easy to find in California; I saved them for such emergencies from a one-time trip to Iceland.).
One year I made the circuit in January, and found the 'ice curtain' did have some slippage, as I could not tell the difference in temperature between Buffalo and Ottawa.
Now? I have the good sense to stay on my own side of the continent. |
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06/18/2011 10:01:05 PM · #59 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
snaffles, you're right. Perhaps not an ice wall, but an 'ice curtain.' I used to make the circuit every October from Hartford, CT to Syracuse , NY, then Buffalo, NY and finally on to Ottawa, visiting friends and relatives all the way. By the time I got to Ottawa, I was glad I packed my long-johns (not easy to find in California; I saved them for such emergencies from a one-time trip to Iceland.).
One year I made the circuit in January, and found the 'ice curtain' did have some slippage, as I could not tell the difference in temperature between Buffalo and Ottawa.
Now? I have the good sense to stay on my own side of the continent. |
Cool, Syracuse...I'm only about an hour from there...south east. During my seven years in the the Navy I spent TONS of time in the Bay area, and always thought of the famous quote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco". Often attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons), but the true origin is not really known. Anyway, with the fog and cool temperatures I found the quote to be quite accurate since my native New York State blood had acclimated to the warmer climate long before that while stationed in San Diego.
So Alice, makes me want to ask what motivates someone from San Francisco to want to come to Upstate New York (and Canada) during the frigid month of January? Not cold enough for you in San Francisco? LOL. Are you just a snow lover or were you from this part of the country originally?
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06/18/2011 10:04:07 PM · #60 |
Originally posted by snaffles:
BrennanOB, I hope you're sitting down...
There is no ice wall at the 49th parallel. Never was one and with global warming, likely never will be. Most of Canada gets the full 4 seasons, and yeah, winter still tends to take up a lot of the calendar. Even so there have been many years where no real amount of snow has fallen til mid-late December and sticks around til April, even early May at times. (I'm talking Ottawa area here). When I lived in NW BC, there was still snow visible on the peaks of the Cascade mountains well into August.
Bob and Doug McKenzie were characters created to essentially fill two minutes of screen time on a comedy show with *Canadian* content, I believe in order to continue to receive funding. So they went hawg wild with the idea, obviously, and perpetuated every Canadian 'Eh?'-saying, beer-swilling, hockey-loving stereotype possible in as little time as possible. The movies didn't help much either :-/
Having said that, RayEthier is a Mountie, and he may well have the red serge uniform stashed away for special occasions that require a full dress uniform. But otherwise he looks and acts like yer typical Canon-toting redhead :-) |
Hey! Canon toting red heads aren't exclusive to Canada ya know! :P
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06/18/2011 10:50:07 PM · #61 |
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
During my seven years in the the Navy I spent TONS of time in the Bay area, and always thought of the famous quote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco". Often attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons), but the true origin is not really known.
Dave |
 Herb Caen said you could always identify the tourists in San Francisco -- they were the ones who for some odd reason thought shorts and a T-shirt appropriate attire for a July afternoon ...
Message edited by author 2011-06-18 22:55:35. |
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06/18/2011 10:52:11 PM · #62 |
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
Originally posted by sfalice:
snaffles, |
Cool, Syracuse...I'm only about an hour from there...south east. During my seven years in the the Navy I spent TONS of time in the Bay area, and always thought of the famous quote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco". Often attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons), but the true origin is not really known. Anyway, with the fog and cool temperatures I found the quote to be quite accurate since my native New York State blood had acclimated to the warmer climate long before that while stationed in San Diego.
So Alice, makes me want to ask what motivates someone from San Francisco to want to come to Upstate New York (and Canada) during the frigid month of January? Not cold enough for you in San Francisco? LOL. Are you just a snow lover or were you from this part of the country originally?
Dave |
Hmmm, One hour Southeast. Wild guess: Cazenovia? The Twain comment is still perfectly accurate, but just drive 5 miles, anywhere except west obviously, and it's nice n warm and California-like. I lived in Syracuse for many years and my guy had spent lots of time on TI during and after WWII, so when it came time to relocate, well...
Snow? Pictures of the stuff are nice. |
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06/18/2011 11:21:01 PM · #63 |
Originally posted by sfalice:
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
Originally posted by sfalice:
snaffles, |
Cool, Syracuse...I'm only about an hour from there...south east. During my seven years in the the Navy I spent TONS of time in the Bay area, and always thought of the famous quote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco". Often attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons), but the true origin is not really known. Anyway, with the fog and cool temperatures I found the quote to be quite accurate since my native New York State blood had acclimated to the warmer climate long before that while stationed in San Diego.
So Alice, makes me want to ask what motivates someone from San Francisco to want to come to Upstate New York (and Canada) during the frigid month of January? Not cold enough for you in San Francisco? LOL. Are you just a snow lover or were you from this part of the country originally?
Dave |
Hmmm, One hour Southeast. Wild guess: Cazenovia? The Twain comment is still perfectly accurate, but just drive 5 miles, anywhere except west obviously, and it's nice n warm and California-like. I lived in Syracuse for many years and my guy had spent lots of time on TI during and after WWII, so when it came time to relocate, well...
Snow? Pictures of the stuff are nice. |
Cazenovia is still pretty close to Syracuse about 30 minutes away. I'm down in the Norwich area..about 15-20 minutes outside of there. Actually, I live in a pretty central area to some of the larger cities in the area..Syracuse, Binghamton, Utica, Oneonta and even Albany which is only about 1.5 hours from me.
I spent a lot of time on TI as well. I went to the fire fighting school there as well as advanced training for my departments Damage Control Petty Officer training. Top notch training there.
This past winter was the first time in my life that I got sick of snow, and the temps were starting to get to me. We got it early in the year and never saw the ground again until late Spring. Normally the temps are a bit more mild in late November and December (for the region), but this year they dropped through the floor early and never warmed up. I can't say I blame you with the move. LOL. |
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06/18/2011 11:37:54 PM · #64 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:
During my seven years in the the Navy I spent TONS of time in the Bay area, and always thought of the famous quote: "The coldest winter I ever spent was a summer in San Francisco". Often attributed to Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons), but the true origin is not really known.
Dave |
Herb Caen said you could always identify the tourists in San Francisco -- they were the ones who for some odd reason thought shorts and a T-shirt appropriate attire for a July afternoon ... |
That's another great quote Paul...and very true. LOL. I don't think I ever wore shorts in the Bay Area. It was usually jeans, a casual collared shirt and perhaps a light jacket depending on the weather. I know I froze my butt off in full dress uniform and a peacoat standing the quarterdeck watch between midnight and 4 AM. Those were some of the longest four hours of my life I think..LOL.
Still, I have a lot of great memories from that time period. Sometimes we would be moored at a pier in San Francisco, other times we would be moored at Alameda. I lived on the BART and would often go up to Berkeley and catch a matinee with some buddies before heading up to the campus to hang out. When night time fell it was usually out to Chinatown to eat and hit the clubs downtown. I remember frequenting one dance club the "Embarcadero" which was of course located in that area of the city. It had floor to ceiling video screens playing music videos cranking out music. Fun times!
One of my favorite times was also an afternoon...and evening spent drinking all day in a bar in West Oakland. The reason it was so special is because I've been an Oakland Raider fan for 40 years...and at one time thought I was the only one on the East Coast. LOL. So to me...sitting in a bar in West Oakland talking to Raider fans was like a kid going to Disneyland. LOL. Not the best of areas (at least at the time) to be walking back to a BART station three sheets to the wind in the early morning hours...alone. LOL. Oh well, at 6 foot 4 inches and 225 lbs at the time I guess some people would be nervous seeing me coming down the sidewalk at night. LOL. What a great day that was. :)
BTW..I've always loved the NY Giants as well, but my heart bleeds Silver and Black. :)
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06/23/2011 07:39:09 AM · #65 |
Originally posted by BrennanOB:
Originally posted by one2one:
Vancouver didn't have the team to win the cup. They played in a weak western conference and most of their wins came from beating very weak teams like Calgary, Colorado, Columbus and Edmonton. |
Yes such a weak team they won the President's Trophy. Their weakness was a tendency to dive for calls, and the occasional mental fragility of Roberto Luongo. Good enough to go 11-5-2 against the " more powerfull" eastern conference. Had Luongo played with the same steady concentration he played with against the Predators and the Sharks rather than having three terrible games and one mediocre game out of seven, it would have been done in five and Vancouver would never have shown that Canadians can riot too. A lot of credit for that poor performance goes to Boston, but the twenty twenty hindsight of saying Vancouver never "had the team to win the cup" was not shared by impartial observers (or the oddsmakers who installed Boston as a +200 underdog) before the series. Boston played well, and they got lucky, and they won in seven games, but to say Vancouver never had a chance is just silly. |
You know as well as I do that regular season stats mean zippo in the playoffs. With that said....
If Vancouver were in the Eastern conference they would have probably won the cup because then they would have had the experience of playing tough teams, playoffs would have been a breeze. Google how many Presidents trophy winners have actually won the cup. Not too many, it's an insignificant statistic when the playoffs arrive. Vancouver didn't deserve the cup, not with the team they have at the moment. Luongo is not a playoff goalie, we have proof now. Boston were a tougher and more balanced team when it came to playing the game of hockey. I don't know why I'm replying to this when it's obvious who the better team is; the one with the cup. ;p
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