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06/13/2011 08:28:43 PM · #1 |
I am trying to get rid of some specks of dust and other unwanted stuff in a photo by using basic editing. I can't clone, so I tried upping the contrast. That makes them all disappear but then the photo looks too contrasty.
Any tips (I use Paint Shop Pro) for getting rid of the specks in basic editing? Thanks! |
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06/13/2011 08:30:21 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
I am trying to get rid of some specks of dust and other unwanted stuff in a photo by using basic editing. I can't clone, so I tried upping the contrast. That makes them all disappear but then the photo looks too contrasty.
Any tips (I use Paint Shop Pro) for getting rid of the specks in basic editing? Thanks! |
You can clone out sensor dust in basic. |
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06/13/2011 08:34:49 PM · #3 |
Slight correction, you can only clone out SENSOR dust and hot pixels. Dust on objects in the scene cannot be cloned out.
My world of wine photo suffered from this a bit. But through enough messing with brightness and colors I was able to clean it up a fair amount
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06/13/2011 08:39:34 PM · #4 |
| I'm not talking about sensor dust. I'm talking about specks and other imperfections that I can't get rid of any other way. |
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06/13/2011 08:42:51 PM · #5 |
| Careful....any way you try ...you may be doomed. Using a tool to get rid of something is likely a DQ....even in advanced! |
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06/13/2011 08:47:47 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by kenskid:
Careful....any way you try ...you may be doomed. Using a tool to get rid of something is likely a DQ....even in advanced! |
The weird part is, since Basic is tools-based, you can, say, adjust contrast or brightness to obscene extremes, and it's still legal. In fact, there are some adjustments that, perversely are technically legal in Basic, yet would be illegal in Advanced, which is results-based. |
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06/13/2011 09:24:43 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
I am trying to get rid of some specks of dust and other unwanted stuff in a photo by using basic editing. I can't clone, so I tried upping the contrast. That makes them all disappear but then the photo looks too contrasty.
Any tips (I use Paint Shop Pro) for getting rid of the specks in basic editing? Thanks! |
Is this why you were asking about noise-reduction? That's what I was going to suggest trying. You might also have some luck making it B&W or duotone/tritone, if realistic color is not a necessity. |
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06/13/2011 09:28:20 PM · #8 |
PSP has a dust and scratches removal feature hiding in one of the menus.
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06/13/2011 09:31:13 PM · #9 |
Embrace it, in fact, add more noise :D
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06/13/2011 09:36:17 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Careful....any way you try ...you may be doomed. Using a tool to get rid of something is likely a DQ....even in advanced! |
The weird part is, since Basic is tools-based, you can, say, adjust contrast or brightness to obscene extremes, and it's still legal. In fact, there are some adjustments that, perversely are technically legal in Basic, yet would be illegal in Advanced, which is results-based. |
All done with Curves adjustments and UnSharp Mask filter:
Edited:  Orig:  Edited:  Original no longer available, but there's a thumb in the info section ...
Message edited by author 2011-06-13 21:36:40. |
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06/13/2011 09:42:37 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by KarenNfld:
I am trying to get rid of some specks of dust and other unwanted stuff in a photo by using basic editing. I can't clone, so I tried upping the contrast. That makes them all disappear but then the photo looks too contrasty.
Any tips (I use Paint Shop Pro) for getting rid of the specks in basic editing? Thanks! |
Is this why you were asking about noise-reduction? That's what I was going to suggest trying. You might also have some luck making it B&W or duotone/tritone, if realistic color is not a necessity. |
Yeah, that's why I was asking about noise reduction. I can get rid of some of it that way but not all of it. It needs to be in colour too. I'll probably just go with more contrast and enter it even though it's not as good as I would like it to be. |
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06/13/2011 10:08:10 PM · #12 |
you may want to attempt a couple of processing styles, 3 images or so, and ask for preferences in the "Help! which one?!" thread. I think I'd rather see a bit of dust over blown out highlights and crappy contrast.
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12/08/2011 07:11:20 PM · #13 |
| How can you tell if it's sensor dust or specks, I have some on my sensor and it's shown up on a photo I want to enter, dust is legal to clone out in Basic right? |
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12/08/2011 08:26:08 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Neat:
How can you tell if it's sensor dust or specks, I have some on my sensor and it's shown up on a photo I want to enter, dust is legal to clone out in Basic right? |
Yes, it is. If it's sensor dust, it will show up in the same spot on subsequent photos (probably; the stuff can move around but doesn't do it all that often). It will show up at small apertures, like f/22 or f/16, and seem to disappear at large apertures like f/2.8. The larger the aperture, the fi\uzzier and larger the dark spot.
If what you've got fits this description, well then, you've got dust!
Try setting your lens for f/22 (or f/16 if it doesn't go to f/22) put the focus on manual and set it to infinity. Take a photo of a white screen or wall. It doesn't matter that you can't focus or that you have shake, so make the exposure as long as it needs to be. Look at the resulting shot at 100%, and be disgusted.
ETA: yes, it's legal to clone out sensor dust in Basic.
Message edited by author 2011-12-08 20:27:12.
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12/08/2011 08:47:42 PM · #15 |
| Thanks, want to make sure. |
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12/08/2011 10:59:35 PM · #16 |
| Just add a big chunk of dust to your sensor in the spot want to clone and re-shoot. It's now legal to clone that spot :) |
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01/10/2012 01:34:55 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Careful....any way you try ...you may be doomed. Using a tool to get rid of something is likely a DQ....even in advanced! |
The weird part is, since Basic is tools-based, you can, say, adjust contrast or brightness to obscene extremes, and it's still legal. In fact, there are some adjustments that, perversely are technically legal in Basic, yet would be illegal in Advanced, which is results-based. |
really? what about this rule in basic
"use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur."
where in advanced you can apply effects...
Message edited by author 2012-01-10 13:35:09. |
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01/10/2012 06:35:07 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by blindjustice:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Careful....any way you try ...you may be doomed. Using a tool to get rid of something is likely a DQ....even in advanced! |
The weird part is, since Basic is tools-based, you can, say, adjust contrast or brightness to obscene extremes, and it's still legal. In fact, there are some adjustments that, perversely are technically legal in Basic, yet would be illegal in Advanced, which is results-based. |
really? what about this rule in basic
"use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur."
where in advanced you can apply effects... |
Perhaps I am misunderstanding... but I wasn't talking about applying things that may be classed as effects. What I was speaking of are the most basic of Basic tools, like brightness, contrast, curves... in Basic, there is no limit on how dramatic your adjustment with these legal tools may be. The same adjustments made in Advanced, however, will net you a DQ if they remove subject matter, e.g. taking a dark but detailed background to black.
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01/10/2012 10:39:49 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by blindjustice:
Originally posted by kirbic:
Originally posted by kenskid:
Careful....any way you try ...you may be doomed. Using a tool to get rid of something is likely a DQ....even in advanced! |
The weird part is, since Basic is tools-based, you can, say, adjust contrast or brightness to obscene extremes, and it's still legal. In fact, there are some adjustments that, perversely are technically legal in Basic, yet would be illegal in Advanced, which is results-based. |
really? what about this rule in basic
"use filters or stand-alone utilities designed to preserve image integrity (such as Neat Image, Unsharp Mask, Dust & Scratches, and color correction tools). These filters must be applied uniformly to the entire image, and must not be used in such a way that their use becomes a feature. No “effects” filters may be applied to your image, with the exception of Noise and Gaussian Blur."
where in advanced you can apply effects... |
Perhaps I am misunderstanding... but I wasn't talking about applying things that may be classed as effects. What I was speaking of are the most basic of Basic tools, like brightness, contrast, curves... in Basic, there is no limit on how dramatic your adjustment with these legal tools may be. The same adjustments made in Advanced, however, will net you a DQ if they remove subject matter, e.g. taking a dark but detailed background to black. |
I thought the line "used in such a way as their use becomes a feature " meant you could, say, saturate the thing to make it look alien.; or unsharp mask the heck out of it four times to make it freaky posterish- but I guess I will have to look deeper into this seemingly strange situation of basic allowing much more. |
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