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05/28/2011 06:34:20 PM · #51 |
Originally posted by Socom:
I just think when your voting on something there should be some uniformity like any voting situation. |
By the way there is tremendous uniformity in voting now. It's as normally distributed as you could expect with a 1 to 10 scale. Uniformity doesn't mean that there are no outliers. Look at the uniformity of average scores between 2002 and 2010:
Yes, these are final averages not individual votes but the reality is that individual votes are very normally distributed too except for rare instances.
Average andn Central Tendency |
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05/28/2011 06:39:24 PM · #52 |
Originally posted by Socom:
Originally posted by cpanaioti:
Looking at images in isolation (not with the rest in the competition) is not viewing the whole picture (no pun intended). On their own, images may very likely rate higher, however, in context, the rating is lower since the rating is used as a placement value. This is but one way of dealing with voting. It may not be yours but that does not make it wrong. |
I guess then there is where I am confused, I could have sworn we were told not to look at them as a whole, but each one individual. If that is not the case, then you are correct and I will start handing out ones |
That's the point. Noone is telling you how to vote. That is just one way that people use. Some will do as you do and try and look at each one on its own. Neither way is wrong, just different.
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05/28/2011 07:12:58 PM · #53 |
Originally posted by one2one:
...Leo, I think you need a break from DPC dude. ... |
ARE YOU CWAZEE?
I con't do dat... it's unpossible! |
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05/28/2011 07:57:17 PM · #54 |
Here's a look at how uniform the voting in Light on White is. The chart on the left shows the total distribution of all votes. It approximates a normal curve very well with a strong central peak and symmetrical tails just as you should expect. If anything it's minutely skewed to the upper end, i.e. more 8, 9 and 10 votes than 1, 2 and 3 votes.
The chart on the right shows the sum of the 1, 2 & 3 votes and 8, 9 and 10 votes plotted against the finishing positions. As expected even the highest finishing pictures receive some 1, 2 and 3 votes and the lowest get some 8, 9, and 10 votes. The lines are practical inverse of one another as we should expect:
I'd be willing to bet that these results represent what happens on most challenges unless nudity or other "offensive" subjects are introduced.
By the way, I'm not opposed to change and welcome ideas for improvement but when it comes to voting I think some people are trying to correct a problem that doesn't exist.
Message edited by author 2011-05-28 20:01:04. |
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05/28/2011 08:29:38 PM · #55 |
By the way on the chart on the right notice that there are two points that stand out at image 34 and image 36. These two shots:
I̢۪d say that these two stand out as polarizing shots. They received an abnormal number of low and high votes (statistically speaking). Definitely two camps of voters clearly represented here.
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05/28/2011 09:30:41 PM · #56 |
Originally posted by FocusPoint:
Originally posted by one2one:
...Leo, I think you need a break from DPC dude. ... |
ARE YOU CWAZEE?
I con't do dat... it's unpossible! |
lol you are DPC certified nutty. Carry on.... :) |
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06/13/2011 05:33:51 AM · #57 |
Maybe the results window should show scrubbed vote tallies as well. Would be nice to see how many votes the system or admins scrubbed. Then we can get our spreadsheets out all over again :) The current stats/figures don't show scrubbed votes, in either side aka 10's scrubbed due collusion.
Edit: fixed Typo's
Message edited by author 2011-06-13 05:44:10.
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06/13/2011 05:39:42 AM · #58 |
Originally posted by smardaz:
i think we should model the site after little league sports and give everyone who enters a ribbon, so no one feels left out.
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Only way I'll ever get a blue.....
Like the surgeon said, accept the outcome, you can in actual fact not change anything after the fact. If is for..... |
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06/13/2011 05:40:48 AM · #59 |
| This site could be worth a few PhD studies..... |
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06/13/2011 06:41:18 AM · #60 |
Originally posted by docpjv:
This site could be worth a few PhD studies..... |
Too true, Doc. Too true. |
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06/13/2011 09:03:32 AM · #61 |
Victim: "voters impacted my score"
Player: "i impacted the voters" |
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06/13/2011 09:30:35 AM · #62 |
Originally posted by Socom:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Socom:
This site I am sure is not the same as it was 5 years ago, and wont be the same 5 years from now. |
Not the same? The search results for "Vote" from 2002-03 would seem to indicate that things have stayed remarkably the same. One sample thread ...
Originally posted by Steve Brown, c. 1978:
STABILITY n. Facing the same contradictions year after year. |
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look at your highest rated photos, all early in the sites history, allmost all have no 1,2 or 3's. And no offence to langdon but there is no way this image  would not get a 1 today. so to me.. thats change. |
Could it be that technique and equipment has overtaken us as the expense of art? I say yes. People vote for the same types of shot with that "wow" factor- with total disregard to artistic merit. its a joke- we have seen way to many waterfall blurs and liquid drops, etc. |
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06/13/2011 09:46:14 AM · #63 |
I'm looking for a thread that should be common but having trouble.... It's title is... Why the hell did I get so many 8,9,10 troll votes??
Seems the low end is "troll" but the top end of the tail is never considered a troll... who knew?? |
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