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05/30/2011 07:16:10 PM · #1 |
Post a memorable or helpful negative comment you have received in a challenge.
For me it was in one of the first street photography challenges I entered and Pawdrix (Unfortunately, he packed his bags and departed from DPC) left this simple but effective comment that provided me a lot of insight into the genre:
Why are you showing me this person?
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05/30/2011 07:18:32 PM · #2 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
...Why are you showing me this person?... |
LOL |
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05/30/2011 07:31:43 PM · #3 |
I'll go with "memorable" for this one:
Never again received a comment like this from this photographer whose comments I respect and admire.
dang, reading that comment again puffed me up no end. But alas, it was down hill from there.
Excellent work and good luck in 2004 :) = 10 - Setzler |
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05/30/2011 07:34:15 PM · #4 |
Nine months ago when I was new here on DPC I submitted to what I think was my second or third challenge, and Mr FourPointX gave me a comment I hated so much, but I get it now because I've gotten to know this site and its photographs over the past months.
"originality points. not. 5"
I did frown upon it back then, it was so blunt, stepping in to tell someone that you gave them a 5(!!!) because the idea wasn't original. Little did I know, that less than a year later it would be me sitting there thinking "But w00t? Seriously? Another f*ing wineglass?? *Facepalm*"
edit: Thumb to photo
Message edited by author 2011-05-30 19:35:22. |
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05/30/2011 08:05:38 PM · #5 |
holy crap that's me.
jopsy...i am sorry for my bluntness. i have grown (in 2+years) quickly tired of played out themes. i seriously cannot believe i was that blunt and callous, but in the end, i stand by my comment. i am sorry for the hurt it must have caused, but i hope in your time here you can understand/feel where i was coming from. damn that was callous, i really am sorry. my only defense is...and it's a lame one...is that i think that MAY have been the most blunt comment i ever left? cold comfort i know...but i am sorry if it hurt you. |
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05/30/2011 08:17:07 PM · #6 |
Just got this one today: "[P;'/.-0"
I'm not sure if it's good or bad. I need to have it translated first. |
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05/30/2011 08:18:29 PM · #7 |
The comment was just "no." |
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05/30/2011 08:19:02 PM · #8 |
well after posting my lame apology to josefine...
i thought of my most negative comment that helped me. and i came up with this.
"this is dumb...etc"
i was so upset, i couldn't believe a respected photographer would leave such a heartless comment. i was seriously ready to leave dpc.
it was followed by a comment from  ubique that let me know, that i was in the right place.
Your 10 is not just a bonus for your shock value BTW, it's a considered judgement on the merits of the photograph as documentary art. There is much more going on than just the 'joust-of-signs'; there is an accusing finger (ironically pointing at 'God'), and there is the gay kiss as well (amounting to another kind of finger). And the 'PHOBIA' t-shirt. All of it contrasted with the serene ignorance of the perpetrator.
the photo:
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05/30/2011 08:19:22 PM · #9 |
The comment that sticks out most was from andrewt:
"I feel that you could have done more with this image. A lot of potential here, 6"
I responded, asking him what I could have done with it, and he gave me some extremely helpful advice. It was incredibly useful. |
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05/30/2011 08:20:35 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by FourPointX:
holy crap that's me.
jopsy...i am sorry for my bluntness. i have grown (in 2+years) quickly tired of played out themes. i seriously cannot believe i was that blunt and callous, but in the end, i stand by my comment. i am sorry for the hurt it must have caused, but i hope in your time here you can understand/feel where i was coming from. damn that was callous, i really am sorry. my only defense is...and it's a lame one...is that i think that MAY have been the most blunt comment i ever left? cold comfort i know...but i am sorry if it hurt you. |
we should start a "bluntest comment received from fourpointx" thread :-D
Posthumous said something about "my surrealism being his minimalism" in the minalism in black and white challenge. I really knew and still don't know anything about minimalism so sorry Don!
And I still don't understand the comment either ;-) but it made me smile.
Message edited by author 2011-05-30 20:22:52.
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05/30/2011 08:34:47 PM · #11 |
Originally posted by NiallOTuama:
we should start a "bluntest comment received from fourpointx" thread :-D
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brother you will be hard pressed to find a more blunt comment from me! i am still shaking my head at how mean it sounds |
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05/30/2011 08:47:50 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by FourPointX:
well after posting my lame apology to josefine...
i thought of my most negative comment that helped me. and i came up with this.
"this is dumb...etc"
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You know, I think there's a possibility that he was talking about the scene/or the sign dude and not the photograph? Maybe you could PM and ask? |
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05/30/2011 08:50:19 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by colorcarnival:
you know, I think there's a possibility that he was talking about the scene/or the sign dude and not the photograph? Maybe you could PM and ask? |
amazing i never thought of something as simple as that. i know derek had a pretty good explanation of "why" this might have been the comment, but i never really thought of something that simple. thank you, i will.
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05/30/2011 08:50:19 PM · #14 |
re:edited to say:
amazing how a simple pm can resolve something that was so upsetting in my mind. i did truly misunderstand the commenter, and thank you so much michelle for taking me past my hurt and male-stubbornness to just simply ask him...and get the response i should have expected, a simple misunderstanding.
Message edited by author 2011-05-30 21:28:42. |
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05/30/2011 11:29:07 PM · #15 |
All my negative comments are my favorites. I sit and mull them over whenever I get one, and it makes me look at things differently, which I really appreciate.
My most recent ones were very nice though, in that they were pretty detailed. Both of these comments are great in that they explain what they enjoy, and what they don't, and why. I'd mark both these up as quality examples of how to comment on images.
From paulbtlw:
OK - I really should make a comment here. First of all, let me say that I liked this enough to give it an 8.....
I think this is 'over-made'. There's no way I'd have thought this was a live scene. I had it down as novel use of a data projector, that shadow behind the case transecting the torso, letting the background show through created that impression. I read from your notes that you wanted create a disconnect between the figure and the scene - you've achieved that, no question, but I think it has been your undoing, the image ceases to offer a feeling of authenticity. This is a shame because, the scene, the idea, the message and the choices with coloration are all bang on.
Had you chosen to stand in the scene, without the camera rotation, I suspect you'd have had an different reception entirely. Your vision, commitment and talent are unquestionable; but you made a key choice here that has cost you much higher score overall.
I also got a nice one, same challenge, from  tanguera, on the same image;
There has been quite a run on gas masks lately.... :-)
I'm not sure how I feel about this image. It is for sure, very artsy, and the separate elements are all well done - the cabin and the lighting in the bg are very ominous and portentous. The figure with the strategically placed case is mysterious and a bit alarming. But the pp'ing doesn't help me feel that they are connected in any way. On the contrary, it feels arbitrary to me.
Message edited by author 2011-05-30 23:29:28. |
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05/31/2011 12:03:47 AM · #16 |
From  Journey You captured the texture of the front screw and the sponge but personally I just don't like the picture. Don't see what it is trying to convey besides just doing a texture exercise. Sorry
This comment absolutely grated my every single nerve when i got it. However, in the 9 years since (yea, i'm stuck here -- kinda like a time warp, only different), I find myself saying every time I enter, "What am I trying to convey?" That was my 16th or so entry, and I'm up to something around 540 now, so the comment was definitely one to remember. |
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05/31/2011 12:19:32 AM · #17 |
Originally posted by karmat:
I find myself saying every time I enter, "What am I trying to convey?" |
Sometimes there is nothing to convey. Why does there always have to be a greater message or meaning? Sometimes it is meant to be nothing more than pleasing shapes, textures and colors, and that's perfectly ok. I think I am in the minority with that opinion, however.
Message edited by author 2011-05-31 00:20:24.
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05/31/2011 12:26:00 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Yo_Spiff:
Originally posted by karmat:
I find myself saying every time I enter, "What am I trying to convey?" |
Sometimes there is nothing to convey. Why does there always have to be a greater message or meaning? Sometimes it is meant to be nothing more than pleasing shapes, textures and colors, and that's perfectly ok. I think I am in the minority with that opinion, however. |
No, I agree totally, and that was my initial and main gripe about the comment. The challenge was "Texture," and the photo was an exercise in that --nothing more, nothing less (especially as someone who was just learning which end of the camera to point away from me).
I ask myself "What am I trying to convey," and sometimes the answer is "Nothing, I just like this picture." That being said, though, IF I have a message to convey, and IF it comes through clearly, I tend to score better. (but after being here just over 9 years, my score is often irrelevant, i tend to enter because i like a picture. . .) |
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05/31/2011 11:22:54 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by karmat:
I ask myself "What am I trying to convey," and sometimes the answer is "Nothing, I just like this picture." |
But every photo does convey something. It could be, as you say, something very basic like "I like this picture" but a good photograph will do more than that. It'll convey why you like it.
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05/31/2011 11:51:43 PM · #20 |
This is one of the most memorable comments I have gotten, I appreciated it so much I had to PM him during the challenge. Not to try and change his mind but to thank him for his comment and taking the time to explain why he voted the way he did. I learned a lot from this comment.
from: nightpixels
This is such a difficult challenge to vote in. In my mind when I hear the word focus I am thinking depth of field has to play a role otherwise how else do we know what the camera has really focused on. This picture is great for a challenge like "Point of Color" and it would have gotten a 9 from me (not 10 because I am not too crazy about the processing style), however I realize that there are many interpretations of this whole focal point thing. In this image everything is in focus and your subject stands out due to significant difference in color compared to the rest of the image not due to it being in focus and the rest of the image not being in focus and because of that my eyes do travel all over the picture and doesn't rest just on your main subject. Very difficult challenge to shoot for and vote in due to various interpretations of the theme. I just gave you my interpretation. Also the bright white snow and the clouds in the background are another reasons that the viewer's eyes are not let to rest on your main subject (those whites keep pulling my eyes away too). I am giving this a 7. Good luck. It should do well. (This is the longest comment I have written for somebody since I joined DPC)
coincidentally I have been receiving many negative comments on a entry currently in voting. Honestly I appreciate every single one of them. I have learned so much on just this one photo. As you would guess the photo isn't doing incredibly well, but I have learned so much from entering it. |
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06/01/2011 08:13:19 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by FourPointX:
holy crap that's me.
jopsy...i am sorry for my bluntness. i have grown (in 2+years) quickly tired of played out themes. i seriously cannot believe i was that blunt and callous, but in the end, i stand by my comment. i am sorry for the hurt it must have caused, but i hope in your time here you can understand/feel where i was coming from. damn that was callous, i really am sorry. my only defense is...and it's a lame one...is that i think that MAY have been the most blunt comment i ever left? cold comfort i know...but i am sorry if it hurt you. |
It's ok. I think I sounded a bit more hurt in my post than what I actually am. I do laugh at the comment today, and you've given me many great comments as well! |
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06/01/2011 10:18:26 PM · #22 |
I've had VERY few comments I thought weren't helpful. Even negative ones tell you something, if only that you didn't connect with someone.
Helpful negative comments for me go right back to my very first challenge:
This comment:
Originally posted by Aghris:
I'm sorry, but this is not a very good rendition of the well known technique. You might want to add a few more drops and the flash distracts from the shot. The spoon reflections in the drops are not very clear and the colors are boring. This would be better if you had a colored backdrop to put the spoon on, and if you took the photo with a longer exposure in stead of flash. |
taught me many things:
- Voters only know what they see. This person thought I was shooting a spoon under a glass plate, but I was really shooting drops of water as they fell out of the faucet.
- Onboard flash is often a problem.
- DPC loves color - the more poppy, the better.
- My initial fascination with what digital cameras can capture does not make a photo contest-worthy.
Now, years later, I'm capable of choosing for myself whether I agree with any or all of those for a particular shot, but it got me thinking and learning about what works for various people in various shots. It was really the beginning of how far I've come. And DPC gets 99% of the credit for that. |
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06/01/2011 10:38:27 PM · #23 |
This one
Generated this response from Lolly_gagger.
[b]i am sure your son appreciates you sneaking in his room to 'air' his room in a public forum
the shots not good either[/b]
Sometimes you just strike a chord.... |
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06/01/2011 11:36:40 PM · #24 |
I am not praising the negative ones on my VERY FIRST brown but rather the comment that contradicted all of those that were left.
I have 16 comments on this shot... just about all of them pointed out the negatives on the image (size crop etc...)
But this person ( EstimatedEyes) left a comment that in fact kept me on DPC... I was on a 1 month trial run for my first few challenges. I nearly stopped paying and leaving all together.. But the comments such as this one below kept me here.
"No way this deserved the brown. This was a difficult capture; a lot of work went into this. Yes, its too small and the crop is off, but sad to see that voters stopped looking after noticing those obvious faults, because there is a lot more that is good about this image. Don't let the voters get you down; your image is much better than the score reflects." |
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