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05/27/2011 07:06:54 AM · #26 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by mariuca:
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm disappointed by what I saw. :-( Only a couple were really reminiscent of Cartier-Bresson for me. |
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Ditto |
+4 : pretty disappointed... |
Add me to the list. I don't want to be rude, but considering the outstanding minimal entries in the light on white challenge, and the amount of attention this has received, it just hasn't lived up to its billing. |
Hmmm...I am starting to regret entering and yet I love my entry and feel it fully meets the bill....btw... from 7.25 down to 5.5! Yup...I don't think it deserves that score...
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05/27/2011 07:11:26 AM · #27 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by mariuca:
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm disappointed by what I saw. :-( Only a couple were really reminiscent of Cartier-Bresson for me. |
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Ditto |
+4 : pretty disappointed... |
Add me to the list. I don't want to be rude, but considering the outstanding minimal entries in the light on white challenge, and the amount of attention this has received, it just hasn't lived up to its billing. |
Just remember that minimal editing with a set up shot is a hell of a lot easier than capturing a candid shot at the decisive moment. Just saying.
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05/27/2011 07:17:44 AM · #28 |
| Of course, and I'm not actually comparing the two. The more time I spend looking the more I'm finding some wonderful stuff. I don't even know why I posted here. My first reaction was disappointment, that's all. |
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05/27/2011 07:19:55 AM · #29 |
Originally posted by Abra:
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by mariuca:
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm disappointed by what I saw. :-( Only a couple were really reminiscent of Cartier-Bresson for me. |
+1 |
+2 |
Ditto |
+4 : pretty disappointed... |
Add me to the list. I don't want to be rude, but considering the outstanding minimal entries in the light on white challenge, and the amount of attention this has received, it just hasn't lived up to its billing. |
Just remember that minimal editing with a set up shot is a hell of a lot easier than capturing a candid shot at the decisive moment. Just saying. |
Yup..and it also depends on whether you live in a bustling city or a small town where everyone hides indoors where cameras are not allowed!!! 5.4 and dropping!
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05/27/2011 07:22:03 AM · #30 |
Originally posted by bohemka:
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
Originally posted by mariuca:
Originally posted by JuliBoc:
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Originally posted by Louis:
I'm disappointed by what I saw. :-( Only a couple were really reminiscent of Cartier-Bresson for me. |
+1 |
+2 |
Ditto |
+4 : pretty disappointed... |
Add me to the list. I don't want to be rude, but considering the outstanding minimal entries in the light on white challenge, and the amount of attention this has received, it just hasn't lived up to its billing. |
I think this was a much more difficult challenge. Light on white you could still pretty much stay in your comfort zone. Not only is this outside the comfort zone for many, the minimal editing makes it very difficult to get the tones that HCB achieved. Light on white was much easier to get the dynamic range for which you were looking.
Personally, I wish people would be a little more positive on this and chalk it up as a learning experience. I appreciate just how many people were at least going for the style. When I looked through the entries, there were many that I didn't see how they fit the challenge, but then I started seeing the point of view, the composition, not just the subject. I was impressed that people tried. And I was impressed that I noticed such things, since I wasn't familiar with his work before this challenge. (heard the name, didn't know the works.)
I think these challenges are so incredibly worthwhile. You can't expect people to live up to the masters. I think the "disappointment" makes it more difficult for people to want to enter in the future.
I would rather see people find the positives in these challenges. |
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05/27/2011 08:01:38 AM · #31 |
Votes: 33
Views: 82
Avg Vote: 5.2727
Comments: 0
This is a very disappointing score. I did go beyond a quick look at the HCB "Fondation" link and found an interesting body of work with many subjects. I included links to three of the HCB images I liked a lot and were the inspiration for my image. But, I think because I didn't stick to the few images presented in the one link, my image may be missing the "recognition" factor. That's unfortunate. It is in HCB shooting style. I don't care too much about the score, because I like the image. It means something to me because it was an accomplishment. |
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05/27/2011 08:22:00 AM · #32 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
.... images but it was a very hard challenge in my opinion. Particularly within the week timeframe. Far harder than the usual DPC challenges |
Completely agree with you Clive, it is a very hard challenge and really pity it was only for a week. I didn't enter because I didn't find anything interesting to submit. I would love it if we had more of the 2 week challenges (such as the phone challenge), this would have been a really good one for a 2 week challenge. |
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05/27/2011 08:29:41 AM · #33 |
Really surprised at this. Figured it would have dropped into the 5's at this point.
Votes: 35
Views: 94
Avg Vote: 6.8857
Comments: 3
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05/27/2011 08:57:50 AM · #34 |
Votes: 38
Views: 85
Avg Vote: 5.8158
Comments: 1
I think it will go lower yet... |
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05/27/2011 09:39:24 AM · #35 |
| Down, down, down... still over 6 though. I've dropped .5 since I last posted. |
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05/27/2011 09:47:57 AM · #36 |
| Feels like this might be the brown for me, and new personal worst. |
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05/27/2011 09:48:22 AM · #37 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
I think the "disappointment" makes it more difficult for people to want to enter in the future. I would rather see people find the positives in these challenges. |
I think the disappointment might make people take the challenge more seriously next time, at least as far as finding the evocative elements necessary for a "masters" challenge. And, I would rather people be honest about what they find, instead of forcing false positiveness. |
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05/27/2011 09:50:34 AM · #38 |
I think I did a fair bit of learning on this, although I didn't get as much as a good picture. HCB would have had a hard time in today's cameraphobic environment, I dare say.
I took this one to set up exposure etc:  and was promptly accosted by the fellow in the background and his chums wanting to know why I was taking pictures. A little CSI detail might explain that a bit  , but even so ...
The sikh here doesn't look too happy about my shooting from the hip technique either... 
 and I got some grief from the boyyos in the background here as well.
worrafug, eh?
The best way to get an HCB shot is probably to set one up. |
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05/27/2011 10:01:06 AM · #39 |
Originally posted by raish:
HCB would have had a hard time in today's cameraphobic environment, I dare say. |
I think you're quite right about that, and it's sad. You'd likely get a black eye if you tried capturing this in North America, or a visit from the police if you tried for this. I seem to remember reading something years ago about him, though, and how he was very discrete with his camera, especially on subways for example. Subjects didn't know he had a camera, let alone that he was taking a picture. |
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05/27/2011 10:25:59 AM · #40 |
Originally posted by Judi:
With regards to the people who are disappointed with the entries...I believe mine is reminiscent of Cartier-Bresson but obviously the voters think otherwise. One persons opinion may differ from another, unfortunately it is another persons opinion that decides the score of your own opinion. |
Pretty much my thoughts too Judi.
I really wish the voters and critics would back up a step and consider the extra hurdles people had to jump for this one still within one week of shooting. If any of them shot for this challenge and are getting a decent score, they should consider where they live and what scenes they had available as compared to others who were going for a spontaneous shot. Even if you found a perfect scene, planets had to align just right for a good subject or subjects to come along within a reasonable time frame for working folks.
I thought I was brave to enter this one, and thoroughly regret doing so now.
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05/27/2011 10:32:39 AM · #41 |
| "All good criticism should be judged the way art is. You shouldn't read it the way you read history or science." |
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05/27/2011 10:49:14 AM · #42 |
Originally posted by JopsyDaisy:
Feels like this might be the brown for me, and new personal worst. |
Up .5 since I wrote that!! |
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05/27/2011 10:53:02 AM · #43 |
Originally posted by Brent_S:
I really wish the voters and critics would back up a step and consider the extra hurdles people had to jump for this one still within one week of shooting. If any of them shot for this challenge and are getting a decent score, they should consider where they live and what scenes they had available as compared to others who were going for a spontaneous shot. Even if you found a perfect scene, planets had to align just right for a good subject or subjects to come along within a reasonable time frame for working folks. |
Sorry. The shot is going to have to speak for itself. Looking at an image, I have no way of knowing what opportunities you did or didn't have, or how far you wandered out of your comfort zone. One week and minimal editing make for about as level a playing field as one can hope for in a challenge.
Still, I don't think you should regret entering. Every challenge is a learning experience...
Message edited by author 2011-05-27 10:53:40. |
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05/27/2011 10:59:41 AM · #44 |
You have rated 97 of 97 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.9278.
Will try to comment later. |
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05/27/2011 11:01:38 AM · #45 |
Originally posted by raish:
... HCB would have had a hard time in today's cameraphobic environment, I dare say. |
I have developed a little technique with my iPhone that keeps me pretty much out of trouble. With the camera app active, I walk around with my phone at my ear. (I even look all around me the way people do when they are distracted by a phone conversation, or are waiting for someone to meet them.) If I see something I want to shoot, I hold the phone in front of me as if I am dialing (or pressing 1 for english, etc.), and snap the photo. Then I put it right back to my ear. People seem to expect that sort of phone behavior, and don't realize I'm using the camera. |
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05/27/2011 11:04:18 AM · #46 |
| I love looking at interesting candid street photography, but when I try to take street shots it makes people extremely uncomfortable. Some people get pretty ticked off. I don't think I will ever be an exceptional street photographer, because I do not like making people this uncomfortable. Maybe a good street photographer should not care. |
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05/27/2011 11:17:54 AM · #47 |
You have rated 97 of 97 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 6 images (6%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.9072.
Enjoyed looking through them all, there are several that stand out of the crowd for me. I voted just assuming and hoping that everybody kept the spirit of the challenge by only using spur of the moment photos.
Maybe we could do doisneau one day, even though he was less of a candid photographer. I will go back and comment on more later. |
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05/27/2011 11:58:19 AM · #48 |
Stats: You have rated 97 of 98 images (99%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.8969.
Hmmmmm...I think my sense of negative capability didn't have enough coffee this morning...but I did find four 10's!
Have a happy weekend everyone! |
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05/27/2011 12:11:31 PM · #49 |
| This has been a great education for me. First I researched HCB's style, then discovered how hard it is to take an excellent candid at the decisive moment, and now, in reviewing the challenge entries, I am going back to do more research. I do not want to assume an entry doesn't fit the HCB style unless I have looked at as many of his photographs as possible. |
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05/27/2011 12:32:13 PM · #50 |
Oh...look what I found...
Louis as a young boy...
*ducks and runs* |
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