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05/02/2011 04:33:54 PM · #76
Votes: 49
Views: 78
Avg Vote: 5.2653
Comments: 3

It seems to have settled about here which is a little lower than I had hoped but I'm quite satisified.
05/02/2011 04:43:22 PM · #77
Originally posted by Fiora:

Sigh, here I have been trying to score sixes with creative shots for weeks, all of which have failed to do so, and my cutesy cliched no-thought-process "ah what the heck I'll enter it" shot is the one finally in that range.
I mean, I am not complaining about the score, but this certainly does not encourage me to be creative.


You have a number of very creative shots in your portfolio. Just because it came to you easily does not mean it is not creative. Were there several others in the challenge similar to yours? I doubt it.
05/02/2011 04:58:35 PM · #78
Hmmmn someone said my photo was "very boring." Really... how is this helpful?
05/02/2011 05:03:22 PM · #79
Originally posted by mczyzia:

Hmmmn someone said my photo was "very boring." Really... how is this helpful?


I would take this to indicate that the voter has either seen the same kind of shot multiple times, or they just don't see a wow factor to the photo. Without a wow factor it is difficult to score high, so that could still be valid feedback.
05/02/2011 05:07:49 PM · #80
Originally posted by giantmike:

Originally posted by mczyzia:

Hmmmn someone said my photo was "very boring." Really... how is this helpful?


I would take this to indicate that the voter has either seen the same kind of shot multiple times, or they just don't see a wow factor to the photo. Without a wow factor it is difficult to score high, so that could still be valid feedback.


No, someone left a totally off base remark on my photo as well. I'm willing to bet it was the same person. After looking at the profile page I see it's the norm. They have an extremely low voting average (well below 4.0) and can't seem to find anything on this site they like. I won't lose any sleep over it, and neither should anyone else. BTW...it's not the comment or point of view. It's the very rude way the comments are made and this person has pages worth of them.

Message edited by author 2011-05-02 17:08:23.
05/02/2011 05:16:22 PM · #81
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:

Originally posted by giantmike:

Originally posted by mczyzia:

Hmmmn someone said my photo was "very boring." Really... how is this helpful?


I would take this to indicate that the voter has either seen the same kind of shot multiple times, or they just don't see a wow factor to the photo. Without a wow factor it is difficult to score high, so that could still be valid feedback.


No, someone left a totally off base remark on my photo as well. I'm willing to bet it was the same person. After looking at the profile page I see it's the norm. They have an extremely low voting average (well below 4.0) and can't seem to find anything on this site they like. I won't lose any sleep over it, and neither should anyone else. BTW...it's not the comment or point of view. It's the very rude way the comments are made and this person has pages worth of them.


Ah, that's annoying. I have definitely run into those as well. I guess I had forgotten about them so quickly that this didn't even register as a valid option :)
05/02/2011 05:45:43 PM · #82
Votes: 50
Views: 79
Avg Vote: 5.8600
Comments: 3

And, as usual, it's doing the yo-yo. Score goes down, score goes up...
05/02/2011 05:54:55 PM · #83
Votes: 50
Views: 83
Avg Vote: 6.0000
Comments: 1
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/02/11 05:54 pm

HAppy its actually over a 5.9999
05/02/2011 06:45:35 PM · #84
Votes: 58
Views: 107
Avg Vote: 6.0172
Comments: 4
Favorites: 1
05/02/2011 07:04:43 PM · #85
Originally posted by markwiley:

Originally posted by Fiora:

Sigh, here I have been trying to score sixes with creative shots for weeks, all of which have failed to do so, and my cutesy cliched no-thought-process "ah what the heck I'll enter it" shot is the one finally in that range.
I mean, I am not complaining about the score, but this certainly does not encourage me to be creative.


You have a number of very creative shots in your portfolio. Just because it came to you easily does not mean it is not creative. Were there several others in the challenge similar to yours? I doubt it.


That is very kind of you to say :-) I do appreciate it.
But with comments such as "7 for cuteness" I am pretty sure I am just getting the voters with a cliche and not with creativity.
Not that that is necessarily a bad thing, just that its hard to see my "creative genius" (I say that ironically) wasting away in the Free Study with a 5.1, and my no brainer soaring at a 6.1
05/02/2011 08:27:51 PM · #86
Some people do need a life. LOL, picky picky.

Mine is sitting on 5.52, but 2 comments about the square crop not right, oh well, some people will do anything to down vote a photo, i think if it looks square it's square to me.

Message edited by author 2011-05-02 20:54:15.
05/02/2011 08:55:45 PM · #87
[edited to stop the nonsense]

Message edited by author 2011-05-03 08:30:05.
05/02/2011 09:00:04 PM · #88
Votes: 60
Views: 103
Avg Vote: 6.1500
Comments: 6
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/02/11 08:58 pm

holding in there with a 6+ so I am happy. It feels good to know there are voters out there enjoying my image.
05/02/2011 10:57:49 PM · #89
edited to stop the nonsense

Message edited by author 2011-05-03 08:29:16.
05/02/2011 11:49:41 PM · #90
You have rated 162 of 162 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 14 images (9%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 6.5741.
05/03/2011 02:29:49 AM · #91
Originally posted by Neat:

Some people do need a life. LOL, picky picky.

Mine is sitting on 5.52, but 2 comments about the square crop not right, oh well, some people will do anything to down vote a photo, i think if it looks square it's square to me.


Square crop was the challenge - being square was the only stipulated requirement. I won't 'do anything' to down a vote, but my voting system gives a fair bit of importance to meeting challenge requirements. It's only fair to entrants who have worked within the description to subtract points from those that haven't.
05/03/2011 02:55:47 AM · #92
I realise what the challenge is, but mine is clearly not a rectangle, what I'm trying to say, is if in a challenge an image is quite good but DNMC, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and give then at least a 5, but some LOVE to give 1's. I have comments stating they like the photo, but it's not a square crop, I mean it's close, but obviously a touch out.
05/03/2011 03:27:50 AM · #93
I haven't looked at the photos yet, but based on what I'm reading here I'm wondering why so many people have a hard time getting a square crop on their photos. Why are people eye-balling it instead of using the features of most crop tools. You can select the crop tool and punch in your edge size in pixels for width and height or even easier if you're using Photoshop (and probably Elements) select the crop tool, clear any previous settings out that might have been saved, hold down the shift key and drag on your photo. You'll get a perfect square crop every time. I'm sure most other editing programs behave similarly.

Just my two cents because as I said I'm confused as to why this would be hard for so many.

ETA: I forgot to add that in Lightroom when you select the crop tool you can set the aspect ratio to 1:1 or whatever number you want to punch in as long as they are the same. This will give you a square crop as well that you can move around your image and resize to the area that you want. Normally when you want to resize a crop area or free transform etc. if you hold down the Shift and Alt key together (Shift-Option for Mac) and drag one of the corners it will maintain the correct aspect ratio as you resize...ie..remain a square in this case.

Dave

Message edited by author 2011-05-03 03:31:46.
05/03/2011 03:40:47 AM · #94
Originally posted by Neat:

I realise what the challenge is, but mine is clearly not a rectangle, what I'm trying to say, is if in a challenge an image is quite good but DNMC, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt and give then at least a 5, but some LOVE to give 1's. I have comments stating they like the photo, but it's not a square crop, I mean it's close, but obviously a touch out.


If you got a 1, it wasn't from me.
05/03/2011 03:50:05 AM · #95
I think i just got a 1 and mine is perfectly square, sad people.
05/03/2011 06:48:43 AM · #96
Originally posted by DCNUTTER:

I haven't looked at the photos yet, but based on what I'm reading here I'm wondering why so many people have a hard time getting a square crop on their photos. Why are people eye-balling it instead of using the features of most crop tools. You can select the crop tool and punch in your edge size in pixels for width and height or even easier if you're using Photoshop (and probably Elements) select the crop tool, clear any previous settings out that might have been saved, hold down the shift key and drag on your photo. You'll get a perfect square crop every time. I'm sure most other editing programs behave similarly.

Just my two cents because as I said I'm confused as to why this would be hard for so many.

ETA: I forgot to add that in Lightroom when you select the crop tool you can set the aspect ratio to 1:1 or whatever number you want to punch in as long as they are the same. This will give you a square crop as well that you can move around your image and resize to the area that you want. Normally when you want to resize a crop area or free transform etc. if you hold down the Shift and Alt key together (Shift-Option for Mac) and drag one of the corners it will maintain the correct aspect ratio as you resize...ie..remain a square in this case.

Dave


Has anyone ever thought about the possibilty that some people didn't crop to an exact square on purpose? Maybe I'm gonna reveal one of the secrets of my success at DPC here: go to my portfolio and look for "square" images (there's a lot of them) - you will have a hard time finding one that really is an exact square; they're all some pixels wider than they are high. That is based on laws of perception, the human eye/brain is fooled so easily and will usually see/think an exact square is higher than wide. You would never notice my image is not square except when you see it on the thumbnails page where it is displayed next to mathematically exact squares. Try it for yourselves or go back to your regular right-clicking schedule.

ETA:
Votes: 65
Views: 111
Avg Vote: 5.8000
Comments: 6
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/03/11 06:50 am

Message edited by author 2011-05-03 06:50:41.
05/03/2011 07:00:49 AM · #97
Originally posted by h2:

Originally posted by DCNUTTER:

I haven't looked at the photos yet, but based on what I'm reading here I'm wondering why so many people have a hard time getting a square crop on their photos. Why are people eye-balling it instead of using the features of most crop tools. You can select the crop tool and punch in your edge size in pixels for width and height or even easier if you're using Photoshop (and probably Elements) select the crop tool, clear any previous settings out that might have been saved, hold down the shift key and drag on your photo. You'll get a perfect square crop every time. I'm sure most other editing programs behave similarly.

Just my two cents because as I said I'm confused as to why this would be hard for so many.

ETA: I forgot to add that in Lightroom when you select the crop tool you can set the aspect ratio to 1:1 or whatever number you want to punch in as long as they are the same. This will give you a square crop as well that you can move around your image and resize to the area that you want. Normally when you want to resize a crop area or free transform etc. if you hold down the Shift and Alt key together (Shift-Option for Mac) and drag one of the corners it will maintain the correct aspect ratio as you resize...ie..remain a square in this case.

Dave


Has anyone ever thought about the possibilty that some people didn't crop to an exact square on purpose? Maybe I'm gonna reveal one of the secrets of my success at DPC here: go to my portfolio and look for "square" images (there's a lot of them) - you will have a hard time finding one that really is an exact square; they're all some pixels wider than they are high. That is based on laws of perception, the human eye/brain is fooled so easily and will usually see/think an exact square is higher than wide. You would never notice my image is not square except when you see it on the thumbnails page where it is displayed next to mathematically exact squares. Try it for yourselves or go back to your regular right-clicking schedule.

ETA:
Votes: 65
Views: 111
Avg Vote: 5.8000
Comments: 6
Favorites: 0
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/03/11 06:50 am


Funny enough i just noticed that a square doesn't seem like a square when i entered this challenge, i cropped the pic in lightroom to 1x1 and i was sure that it looked higher than wider, i had to double check, thought it was just me. Thanks for making me feel normal.

Message edited by author 2011-05-03 07:17:51.
05/03/2011 07:55:44 AM · #98
Some very nice work in this challenge - especially those that used Square to really improve the image.

You have rated 162 of 162 images (100%) in this challenge.
You have commented on 25 images (15%) in this challenge.
You have given an average score of 5.7593.

Of those votes given, I gave out more than 50 entries a score of 7 or higher...so you can do the math, or estimate where some of the scores on the lower end fell. I did not reward good scores to images that were OBVIOUSLY (as in by eye) not square...
05/03/2011 08:13:32 AM · #99
Apple's Aperure 3.1.2 has a very convenient crop tool. No need to guess. One can choose the desired aspect ratio and then concentrate on composition.

05/03/2011 08:20:36 AM · #100
Votes: 67
Views: 114
Avg Vote: 6.2090
Comments: 6
Favorites: 1
Wish Lists: 0
Updated: 05/03/11 08:19 am

I got a fav! Makes my day :)

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