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02/09/2011 02:21:33 PM · #1 |
| I thought it was funny that all 3 ribboning images have the same title. 7 out of the top 10 do as well. |
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02/09/2011 02:23:12 PM · #2 |
It was in the Challenge requirements....
"The search results for the word "sentinel" bring back a decent amount of photos with a lot of variation. Your challenge is to take the definitive shot entitled "Sentinel"." |
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02/09/2011 02:36:15 PM · #3 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
It was in the Challenge requirements....
"The search results for the word "sentinel" bring back a decent amount of photos with a lot of variation. Your challenge is to take the definitive shot entitled "Sentinel"." |
Although in the pre-submission discussion of this issue, the original submitter of the challenge suggestion revealed that it was a case of a sloppily-composed description, and that the intent was not to limit the title to that one word ... some of us chose to go another route anyway, regardless of the consequences -- the statue I photographed already had a title, so I used that -- but a lot of people went with the literal description. |
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02/09/2011 02:50:58 PM · #4 |
As long as that challenge has been brought up, I think my wife's entry is an excellent example of how an entry can fit the topic perfectly, but not convey it's relevance, and so collect tons of DNMC votes.
This aircraft is a sub-hunter. Designed for protecting a fleet from a hidden foe. FAR more of a sentinel than the loads of lone trees that made it through the challenge fairly unscathed. But the three comments all said there was no relevance to the topic. It's all about perception, not reality. In hindsight, I know she should have used a title that conveyed what this plane does. We'd figured the benefit of the doubt would be given on this topic. Should have known better.
Message edited by author 2011-02-09 14:51:51.
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02/09/2011 05:24:23 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
It was in the Challenge requirements....
"The search results for the word "sentinel" bring back a decent amount of photos with a lot of variation. Your challenge is to take the definitive shot entitled "Sentinel"." |
Although in the pre-submission discussion of this issue, the original submitter of the challenge suggestion revealed that it was a case of a sloppily-composed description, and that the intent was not to limit the title to that one word ... some of us chose to go another route anyway, regardless of the consequences -- the statue I photographed already had a title, so I used that -- but a lot of people went with the literal description. |
I made some silly comments regarding the use of 'Sentinel' in the titles...probably a good thing I didn't have time to finish commenting. :-) |
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02/09/2011 06:04:28 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by glad2badad:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by Ja-9:
It was in the Challenge requirements....
"The search results for the word "sentinel" bring back a decent amount of photos with a lot of variation. Your challenge is to take the definitive shot entitled "Sentinel"." |
Although in the pre-submission discussion of this issue, the original submitter of the challenge suggestion revealed that it was a case of a sloppily-composed description, and that the intent was not to limit the title to that one word ... some of us chose to go another route anyway, regardless of the consequences -- the statue I photographed already had a title, so I used that -- but a lot of people went with the literal description. |
I made some silly comments regarding the use of 'Sentinel' in the titles...probably a good thing I didn't have time to finish commenting. :-) |
I didn't enter nor did I comment...when direct instructions are given like how they were for this challenge...it's hard to not add that into the voting and it still amazes me when people complain that they are being hit...you take quite a risk (IMO) to be "creative"...(No rock throwing now) guess you could say I'm a "in the box" kind of girl...lol |
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02/09/2011 06:10:15 PM · #7 |
I ignored the title requirement as i just thought it was inane and stupid. The title of the challenge was already 'Sentinel' so what possible use would having to repeat that 100 plus times be. It would add no value to the individual photos at all.
Sorry, that sounded a bit harsh. Just thought the title requirement wasn't needed or interesting was all
Message edited by author 2011-02-09 18:13:30. |
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02/09/2011 06:23:46 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan:
I ignored the title requirement as i just thought it was inane and stupid. The title of the challenge was already 'Sentinel' so what possible use would having to repeat that 100 plus times be. It would add no value to the individual photos at all.
Sorry, that sounded a bit harsh. Just thought the title requirement wasn't needed or interesting was all |
I also agree with this...it was VERY redundant |
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02/09/2011 06:32:36 PM · #9 |
Yo_spiff's example was a clear example of two things I was ranting about.
1. The word "definitive" was a clear call for something literal. In this case, the trees were more protective and looking out than a device that was actually designed to look out and protect.
2. The entry's title could have been made more descriptive to help convey meaning, but then again, some of us do not think that descriptive titles are good, and besides, we were asked to title it "Sentinel."
I do not ignore challenge descriptions. Some people do. What if I entered a photo with only three elements in the four elements challenge? Would you ignore that? What if i entered a rubber bubble head in the rubber duckie challenge? Would you ignore that?
If i think the challenge is unclear, I inhibit myself from participation, rather than vote down some people's entries based on my faulty understanding. |
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02/09/2011 07:14:29 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
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2. The entry's title could have been made more descriptive to help convey meaning, but then again, some of us do not think that descriptive titles are good, and besides, we were asked to title it "Sentinel."
I do not ignore challenge descriptions. Some people do. What if I entered a photo with only three elements in the four elements challenge? Would you ignore that? What if i entered a rubber bubble head in the rubber duckie challenge? Would you ignore that?
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I think that's funny, not you personally, but the whole title thing for this challenge. I'm usually a stickler for the rules, and I entered the Sentinel challenge, yet not once did I even think that I had to follow a preset convention for what the challenge entry was titled. I totally missed that bit on the end of the challenge description. TOTALLY!!! However, even had I read that part I don't know that it was clearly written enough that it would have influenced me anyway.
As a general principle I try to keep from putting the challenge title on whatever I've entered...kind of hope others' adhere to that also. I think in Scalvert's post on scoring well on DPC that's one of his tips. Now I'll have to look for that again in my hundreds of 'Watched' threads. BTW - I wish we had an easier way to organize/edit those. Another discussion for another day. :-P
Definitely a funny, very funny, scenario indeed. :-D |
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02/09/2011 07:17:43 PM · #11 |
| I missed the title requirement altogether. I know I must have lost a full point on my average vote because of it. |
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02/09/2011 07:22:40 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
I missed the title requirement altogether. I know I must have lost a full point on my average vote because of it. |
probably not...but maybe??? |
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02/09/2011 07:33:27 PM · #13 |
Originally posted by Ja-9:
Originally posted by larryslights:
I missed the title requirement altogether. I know I must have lost a full point on my average vote because of it. |
probably not...but maybe??? |
I'm positive of it. It's the only possible explanation. : ) |
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02/09/2011 10:06:42 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by larryslights:
I missed the title requirement altogether. I know I must have lost a full point on my average vote because of it. |
I don't know -- I used a different title and actually finished in the top half of the rankings, markedly better than I was expecting. |
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02/09/2011 10:27:26 PM · #15 |
I titled mine "Winter Sentinel" out of sheer stubbornness because the "requirement" was inane and, I thought, probably unintentional. I expected a MUCH better score than I got. I wonder how much that hurt me? Sigh... Not one commenter mentioned the title, negatively or otherwise.
R.
Message edited by author 2011-02-09 22:28:42. |
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02/09/2011 11:01:16 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Bear_Music:
I titled mine "Winter Sentinel" out of sheer stubbornness because the "requirement" was inane and, I thought, probably unintentional. I expected a MUCH better score than I got. I wonder how much that hurt me? Sigh... Not one commenter mentioned the title, negatively or otherwise.
R. |
I don't know why you scored so low either. I gave it an 8 and thought it was one of the best in the challenge. I didn't pay much attention to the title, but I never do. |
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02/09/2011 11:10:48 PM · #17 |
i wasn't able to vote on 100% of the entries. those who chose a different title may have lost some points from me, but not that much. i gave it some weight, but there were other more important criteria that i gave more weight to.
in the christmas song title challenge, it was clearly stated that the title of the entry must be that of a christmas song.
"dashing through the snow" is clearly not the title of that song. some voters have noted that, but LydiaToo submitted a wonderful photo that is totally not related to "jingle bells" or any other christmas song, but in the end, we all agree that there were other criterias to consider, enough for that photo to win blue.
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02/10/2011 01:34:59 AM · #18 |
Originally posted by Cyberlandz:
in the christmas song title challenge, it was clearly stated that the title of the entry must be that of a christmas song.
"dashing through the snow" is clearly not the title of that song.... |
I noticed that too, but I figure most of the other "song-related" challenges specified that the title should be either the title or a lyric from the chosen piece, and the voters remembered (and applied) it that way as well. |
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