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03/17/2004 02:25:30 PM · #1 |
What I want to know is the best way to vote?
At the moment, I'm opening all the thumb nails up on one page, selecting one at random, judging it, marking it and then clicking next.
I will do this for about five or six pictures and then I have to get back to work.
I'll probably be able to manage to do half of the pictures.
This doesn't seem fair.
I will probably miss a fantastic picture or fail to give a pile of crap the low mark it deserves.
Any ideas on how to combat this?
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03/17/2004 02:30:31 PM · #2 |
I vote in several stages. First, I give a quick numerical vote to all the images based strictly on my first impression of a) did it meet the challenge, and b) how good is it? This doesn't really take too long and I don't allow myself to hem and haw -- I just vote. Then, a day or two later, I look at how I've ranked all the images and change some numbers, moving them up or down after more careful consideration. Then, a day or two later, I start making comments -- usually on the ones I've given 8's and above, and also on the ones I've given 3's and below. Then, time (and interest) permitting, I add a comment to anything else that I feel like commenting on.
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03/17/2004 03:28:08 PM · #3 |
I like to vote when I'm very intoxicated and angry, then I try to vote as fast as possible without putting any thought into what I'm doing. If the photo is artistic I automatically give it a 1 because there is no place for art in photography. I've tried voting standing on my head but while intoxicated it's pretty difficult.
Just kidding. If I'm not going to vote on all of them, I'll vote on a random sample of the photos. I just start voting on the first one and then keep voting onthe next one that pops up. the website is designed so that the photos come up in a random order. If everyone just voted on the ones they liked the scores would start to skew, weird things would happen, and Ralph Nader would become president. |
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03/17/2004 05:03:30 PM · #4 |
Originally posted by UNCLEBRO:
I'll probably be able to manage to do half of the pictures.
This doesn't seem fair. |
May not seem fair to you but it is within the design for voting here at dpc. The cut-off is 20%. If it was required that every voter score all the entries there would be a lot less voting. What you are doing is ok, but you should try to get to all of them if you can.
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03/17/2004 05:16:13 PM · #5 |
Originally posted by louddog:
I like to vote when I'm very intoxicated and angry, then I try to vote as fast as possible without putting any thought into what I'm doing. If the photo is artistic I automatically give it a 1 because there is no place for art in photography. I've tried voting standing on my head but while intoxicated it's pretty difficult.
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Hmm, I just use my monochrome 320x240 monitor. they all look alike to me.
Just kidding. I always vote on all the pics. If not, i may miss the best one. As to commenting, last challenge i commented on 49%, this time 4%. I may comment on a few more, but not many more. It seems my comments from earlier challenges were right on, as i see no 'too dark' shots this time!
As to helpful comments..which ones do yo label as helpful? I have gotten 'good pic' (nice, yeah, but helpful how?) and then the two back to back 'great grain effect' and 'too grainy'..both helpful?
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03/17/2004 08:57:54 PM · #6 |
Originally posted by bestagents:
As to helpful comments..which ones do yo label as helpful? I have gotten 'good pic' (nice, yeah, but helpful how?) and then the two back to back 'great grain effect' and 'too grainy'..both helpful? |
To me, they're both potentially helpful in as far as they let me know the range of voter taste here.
When I first began at DPC, I wasn't too aware even of issues such as noise or grain. Having these pointed out is helpful. However, we don't know on whom we're voting, so we don't know if the recipient will find the comment helpful or not. |
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03/18/2004 02:49:22 PM · #7 |
I think revisiting is key since we never vote the same on the first and last image. For instance when a subject is used more than a few times ( paralelle lines & guitar strings ) the last ones get lower scores because you have been over exposed to the image, even if the shot is better than the first one you scored. Only when revisiting and viewing all the shots you scored at each level can you pick the ones that look too good or too bad for the group in thumbnail.
Personally I give five points for the beauty of the image and five points for how well they responded to the challenge.
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03/18/2004 02:59:17 PM · #8 |
Originally posted by UNCLEBRO:
At the moment, I'm opening all the thumb nails up on one page, selecting one at random, judging it, marking it and then clicking next. |
In my personal opinion, and in the interest of fairness, you should always start with the first picture that is presented to you (thumbnail order is different for everybody) and just vote in order from there. If you have to stop and come back, just click on the first thumbnail again (which will be your first unrated picture) and continue on. (Just remember that you need to vote on at least 20% of the entries for your votes to count.) "Picking and choosing" based on thumbnail representations throws away the randomness, and puts too much emphasis on automatically-generated thumbnails instead of on the image that the user (presumably) spent time trying to make look its best when viewed full-size.
That being said, I always try to vote on all of the images in a challenge, especially if I'm participating in the challenge. Nothing "burns my cookies" more than to see profiles that have dozens of challenges entered and less than a hundred votes cast. If you're going to take the time to submit and ask others to rate your photo, the least you can do is give the rest of the submitters the courtesy of a vote.
Message edited by author 2004-03-18 15:00:09. |
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03/19/2004 12:08:53 AM · #9 |
After my first time of voting on all of the photos, I'll give my strategy.
Start at first thumbnail. I start off with a 5 and then depending on the quality of the photo and to what extent it meets the challenge the score lowers and highers. My first impression (love, like, dislike) always affects the score, as I've heard someone say repeatedly "I vote as if I were going to hang it in my home," but even if I wouldn't, I still try to give equal consideration to each.
After going through 20% I stopped and went to re-look at those I had voted on. I changed some scores and then commented on all those which I scored a 3 and some 4s (constructive criticism).
I did that again around about 60 some and then at the end. I expect to go back and comment some more, probably on all that I voted 4s and any in the 8-9 and possibly 7s. The 5s and 6s will most likely only get comments if I like it or there is something obvious that could be fixed easily and would have raised their score.
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