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11/16/2010 09:51:12 PM · #1 |
Hello,
I just came across this short Zapruder film breakdown. It shows where the limo may have been masked out and then repositioned. Basically it said it was done to "cut out" a few frames where the limo actually stopped after Kennedy was hit the first time....thus allowing the assassin an easier head shot.
Please watch the whole thing and give me your PHOTOSHOP / EDITing opinion on what the producer is trying to convey.
Let's not get into if it is BS or if Kennedy was a jackass or if Obama or Palin are goofy dimwits.....just give me your opinion on if you think this film was "masked" as the producer says.
Thanks,
Film
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11/16/2010 10:04:40 PM · #2 |
whats interesting in that video is how it looks when the camera shake is removed. It really looks like there bodies are moving back and forth with breaking action. It doesn't look like a smooth car ride.
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11/16/2010 10:32:54 PM · #3 |
The part where they all lunge forward like the brakes were hit is really strange because the car does not "stop" when they lunge.
Originally posted by mike_311:
whats interesting in that video is how it looks when the camera shake is removed. It really looks like there bodies are moving back and forth with breaking action. It doesn't look like a smooth car ride. |
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11/17/2010 07:42:44 AM · #4 |
I've never seen the film processed like that, with camera-shake removed. It's very interesting.
Although, they would have gone to a lot of effort to edit the film (especially given 1963 technology), just to hide the fact that the car stopped. I don't see how that would be so incriminating. The driver might have reacted instinctively by pressing the brake before speeding up again.
Also, the fatal shot had already hit the president at that point. Slowing the car down wouldn't make any difference. |
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11/17/2010 08:02:59 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by JH:
Also, the fatal shot had already hit the president at that point. Slowing the car down wouldn't make any difference. |
I think they are making the argument that the car slowed down, so that JFK would have been an easier shot.
I'm not one to buy into conspiracy theories, but there are many interesting events in this particular case (JFK), that play pretty well with conspiracy.
Its fun to look at none the less. |
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11/17/2010 08:26:51 AM · #6 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by JH:
Also, the fatal shot had already hit the president at that point. Slowing the car down wouldn't make any difference. |
I think they are making the argument that the car slowed down, so that JFK would have been an easier shot. |
I might have got the order of events wrong. But aren't they claiming that the shot hit him, then the driver braked, and then sped up again, before speeding away? |
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11/17/2010 08:52:05 AM · #7 |
Originally posted by JH:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by JH:
Also, the fatal shot had already hit the president at that point. Slowing the car down wouldn't make any difference. |
I think they are making the argument that the car slowed down, so that JFK would have been an easier shot. |
I might have got the order of events wrong. But aren't they claiming that the shot hit him, then the driver braked, and then sped up again, before speeding away? |
maybe, but that wouldn't be entirely illogical would it? i mean its not out of the question that the driver saw what happened and it startled him so he hit the brake, then realized that he needs to get the flock out of there.
I would think the conspiracy theorist would argue that the driver slowed down before the shot, allowing an easier target. That would seem to give credence to why the video would be altered to remove the slow down.
I'll need to watch it again tonight to confirm what the goal of the video was. |
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11/17/2010 09:19:21 AM · #8 |
I can't hear the voice-over, so I don't know what they are trying to prove, but watching their version of the film closely, I seem to see Jackie reacting to a first shot, the car slowing, and then a second shot visibly blowing a hole in JFK's skull. Supporting the two-gunmen theory. I've always felt that anybody who DOESN'T believe there was a conspiracy to murder the president is being naive, myself. I've always felt the Warren Committee report was a massive whitewash. Who conspired, and why, I don't claim to know, but that there WAS a conspiracy I haven't a doubt.
Regarding the car slowing down, if I recall correctly it was after this assassination they began training the secret service drivers NOT to react to trouble by slowing down, but instead to speed up and high-tail it out of there.
R. |
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11/17/2010 09:22:54 AM · #9 |
| Robert, do you have a 'cc' button at the bottom of the video on your version of YouTube? - Try clicking that, the captions aren't perfect, but it'll give you some idea what the voiceover is saying. |
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11/17/2010 09:56:26 AM · #10 |
Originally posted by JH:
Robert, do you have a 'cc' button at the bottom of the video on your version of YouTube? - Try clicking that, the captions aren't perfect, but it'll give you some idea what the voiceover is saying. |
Yes, but oddly enough it doesn't seem to work lately, I have no idea why. I have fiddled with this for weeks now. I had assumed some videos just hadn't been captioned...
R. |
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11/17/2010 10:47:30 AM · #11 |
Make sure after you've clicked 'cc' that you hover over it and select 'transcribe audio' in the pop-up menu.
afaik most videos are captioned, because the technology uses google's voice recognition algorithms to attempt to do this automatically. Which is why the captioning gets worse if the speech is fast or unclear. |
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11/17/2010 01:31:56 PM · #12 |
Originally posted by JH:
Make sure after you've clicked 'cc' that you hover over it and select 'transcribe audio' in the pop-up menu.
afaik most videos are captioned, because the technology uses google's voice recognition algorithms to attempt to do this automatically. Which is why the captioning gets worse if the speech is fast or unclear. |
The guy actually speaks very slowly and clearly (and rather boringly) - just tried captioning as suggested by JH and works perfectly - does a great job of transcribing the narration as well.. |
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11/17/2010 01:34:45 PM · #13 |
| On a different note - has anyone seen the re-enactment of the JFK assasination at the beginning of "Watchmen" - incredible job they did with that. The viewpoint is from behind and slightly to the right of Zapruder, (he is the guy closest to the camera obscuring the head shot). |
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11/17/2010 01:35:40 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by Simms:
On a different note - has anyone seen the re-enactment of the JFK assasination at the beginning of "Watchmen" - incredible job they did with that. The viewpoint is from behind and slightly to the right of Zapruder, (he is the guy closest to the camera obscuring the head shot). |
yeah, that whole opening sequence is great.
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11/17/2010 01:36:47 PM · #15 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by JH:
Make sure after you've clicked 'cc' that you hover over it and select 'transcribe audio' in the pop-up menu.
afaik most videos are captioned, because the technology uses google's voice recognition algorithms to attempt to do this automatically. Which is why the captioning gets worse if the speech is fast or unclear. |
The guy actually speaks very slowly and clearly (and rather boringly) - just tried captioning as suggested by JH and works perfectly - does a great job of transcribing the narration as well.. |
Thanx, works like a charm. Learn something new every day. YouTube, here I come!
R. |
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11/17/2010 02:41:08 PM · #16 |
It's still as disgusting to see today.
Apemen did it. They hung from trees with Kalashnikovs and pinpointed his head and bam, bam, splat! |
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11/17/2010 02:43:03 PM · #17 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Simms:
On a different note - has anyone seen the re-enactment of the JFK assasination at the beginning of "Watchmen" - incredible job they did with that. The viewpoint is from behind and slightly to the right of Zapruder, (he is the guy closest to the camera obscuring the head shot). |
yeah, that whole opening sequence is great. |
I cannot remember that sequence at all and I loved the movie. Must have been an edited Canadian version or something. lol
Got to watch it again... |
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11/17/2010 03:11:53 PM · #18 |
Originally posted by Jac:
I cannot remember that sequence at all and I loved the movie. Must have been an edited Canadian version or something. lol
Got to watch it again... |
//videolog.uol.com.br/video.php?id=417824
the movie pales in comparison to the graphic novel. there are many converging storylines (Tales of the black freighter), side stories, character backgrounds in the graphic novel that all come together beautifully, the movie did a good job but it just can't compare to the complexity of the GN, not to mention they changed the ending...
Message edited by author 2010-11-17 15:12:09. |
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11/17/2010 04:02:50 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Jac:
I cannot remember that sequence at all and I loved the movie. Must have been an edited Canadian version or something. lol
Got to watch it again... |
//videolog.uol.com.br/video.php?id=417824
the movie pales in comparison to the graphic novel. there are many converging storylines (Tales of the black freighter), side stories, character backgrounds in the graphic novel that all come together beautifully, the movie did a good job but it just can't compare to the complexity of the GN, not to mention they changed the ending... |
Now you did it. I'm going to watch this again this weekend. I also read the GN but only after watching the movie, big mistake. |
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11/17/2010 04:22:46 PM · #20 |
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Jac:
I cannot remember that sequence at all and I loved the movie. Must have been an edited Canadian version or something. lol
Got to watch it again... |
//videolog.uol.com.br/video.php?id=417824
the movie pales in comparison to the graphic novel. there are many converging storylines (Tales of the black freighter), side stories, character backgrounds in the graphic novel that all come together beautifully, the movie did a good job but it just can't compare to the complexity of the GN, not to mention they changed the ending... |
Now you did it. I'm going to watch this again this weekend. I also read the GN but only after watching the movie, big mistake. |
I went into the movie without reading or knowing anything about the GN - the fanboys berate it for the alternate ending, but as a film on its own I loved it. |
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11/17/2010 05:18:15 PM · #21 |
Originally posted by Simms:
Originally posted by Jac:
Originally posted by mike_311:
Originally posted by Jac:
I cannot remember that sequence at all and I loved the movie. Must have been an edited Canadian version or something. lol
Got to watch it again... |
//videolog.uol.com.br/video.php?id=417824
the movie pales in comparison to the graphic novel. there are many converging storylines (Tales of the black freighter), side stories, character backgrounds in the graphic novel that all come together beautifully, the movie did a good job but it just can't compare to the complexity of the GN, not to mention they changed the ending... |
Now you did it. I'm going to watch this again this weekend. I also read the GN but only after watching the movie, big mistake. |
I went into the movie without reading or knowing anything about the GN - the fanboys berate it for the alternate ending, but as a film on its own I loved it. |
That was my point. I enjoyed the movie more than the GN. I found it quite tedious to read actually. Not really into comic book reading. |
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