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10/17/2010 05:51:11 PM · #1 |
I have read the stupid book and still can not do it.
How do you change where the focus is, I am getting the global focus and I want to choice the left hand side as my focus.
and what is the point of the stupid AF On button, as far as I can tell it does the same job as pressing the button to focus.
and why can't stupid Canon make a handbook that has the same subject all in one chapter, instead of having ISO on page 62,153,206,229, stupid book
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10/17/2010 05:55:16 PM · #2 |
I think you probably have a custom functions that allows you to designate the little `joystick` as the means of selecting your focus points. It may even be set to that as default. Just look through the viewfinder and press left/right/up/down etc. and you should be able to pick a focus point really quickly, `click` the joystick to select the central point. I use it on both my 5D and my 1D - makes life a lot quicker - to revert back to `all points` (why anyone would though is beyond me) you just press the focus select button and you should see all focus points flash briefly.
If its not setup with the joystick, press (and hold?) the Focal point select button (looking at back of camera it should be back right) and use the small wheel by the shutter button to change focal point.
I am only assuming that the 7D has the same layout as the 5D, 5Dmk2, 1D (sort of).
Message edited by author 2010-10-17 17:56:48. |
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10/17/2010 05:59:14 PM · #3 |
I would think with a similar layout, it would behave like the 50D, but I'm probably wrong. I have the joystick on my 50D mapped so it controls the focuspoints directly, instead of having to press some other silly button first.
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10/17/2010 06:01:58 PM · #4 |
One example of the AF-On button use:
Some people (like me) have removed focus from the main shutter button. We use either the AF-on or the * button to autofocus.
(more info)
You can change the active focus point by using the thumb button on the far right and then select a different point using the joystick.
Changing the available set of focus points can be done by pressing the far-right thumb button once and then the M-Fn button multiple times. You should see the focus points change now.
Also have a look at Custom Function III.6 - you can enable/disable focus points here.
(increase/decrease the amount of available 'focus point modes').
e:
Like Simms says, you can also just move the joystick around to change the active focus point.
(I didn't know that, thanks!)
Message edited by author 2010-10-17 18:04:21. |
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10/17/2010 06:05:30 PM · #5 |
figured it out, it is stupid too.
you have to press the grid button on the back of the camera, then press the M-fn button which is at the front of the camera as well,, then you can scroll. How complicated is that.
(((Stupid is like the f-ord in my house, so don't tell the kids I said it) |
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10/17/2010 06:07:52 PM · #6 |
I'm sure you can set a custom function so that it works like you think it should. If the 50D can do it, I'm sure the 7D can.
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10/17/2010 06:10:05 PM · #7 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
figured it out, it is stupid too.
you have to press the grid button on the back of the camera, then press the M-fn button which is at the front of the camera as well,, then you can scroll. How complicated is that.
(((Stupid is like the f-ord in my house, so don't tell the kids I said it) |
I am sure you can just assign the joystick.
If you`re in the area pop it in and I`ll take a look. |
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10/17/2010 06:13:10 PM · #8 |
| Thanks guys, I will have my next melt down, in approx 25 mins after I have shot something! |
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10/17/2010 06:51:43 PM · #9 |
Regarding the AF-On button, Penny uses it and swears by it, but it drives me crazy. I'm old-school. Basically , what it allows you to do is separate exposure from focus, you can lock exposure with the shutter button and focus with the AF button. Something like that...
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10/17/2010 07:00:18 PM · #10 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
figured it out, it is stupid too.
you have to press the grid button on the back of the camera, then press the M-fn button which is at the front of the camera as well,, then you can scroll. How complicated is that.
(((Stupid is like the f-ord in my house, so don't tell the kids I said it) |
It's actually not stupid -- it's quite a nice feature.
The reason you have to do it, is that you have 3 different options: single point focus, multiple point focus that allows you to selected the left side, right side, top, bottom or center (this allows you to have 3 or 4 or so focus points but in a quadrant of the frame), or complete auto focus -- the whole shootin' match.
What was added was the quadrant focus (that's what I call it -- I don't know if it has a name.)
This is wonderful for wildlife. Many times I wanted to focus on the right side of the screen, but with the 40D, you had to select the single point. Often the single point wasn't fast enough, or the bird would be on the right, but not at that particular focus point. With the quadrant focus, it finds and focuses the bird much more quickly.
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10/17/2010 07:11:42 PM · #11 |
I know what you are saying Wendy, but it bugs me. because no matter if I do change my point of focus, I have to change it every single time I re-turn the camera on. It is having a hard time focusing on any point unless it is the general all over. And it is not the lens that is the problem , that is a brand new lens and works well on my rebel.
And I admit, I guess I having a hard time going from a 'upper class point and shoot' to a more grown up camera and having to learn stupid custom functions, which I was happy without.
It has just been a frustrating couple of weeks, and I thought (wrongly) that I would just be able to jump right into this camera and pick up where I left off with the 50. So most of this is not the cameras fault, it is mine
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10/17/2010 07:25:40 PM · #12 |
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10/17/2010 07:29:02 PM · #13 |
| CPS, that is exactly what I am talking about, apart from he was much more eloquent than I was. |
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10/17/2010 07:32:23 PM · #14 |
Originally posted by vawendy:
The reason you have to do it, is that you have 3 different options: single point focus, multiple point focus that allows you to selected the left side, right side, top, bottom or center (this allows you to have 3 or 4 or so focus points but in a quadrant of the frame), or complete auto focus -- the whole shootin' match. |
5 different options actually... you just have to enable them using the Custom function ;) |
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10/17/2010 07:34:11 PM · #15 |
| crap I canna even get one option to work nicely, let alone 5 |
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10/17/2010 07:42:21 PM · #16 |
Originally posted by Salteh:
Originally posted by vawendy:
The reason you have to do it, is that you have 3 different options: single point focus, multiple point focus that allows you to selected the left side, right side, top, bottom or center (this allows you to have 3 or 4 or so focus points but in a quadrant of the frame), or complete auto focus -- the whole shootin' match. |
5 different options actually... you just have to enable them using the Custom function ;) |
cool! I haven't dug into the custom functions, yet.
I don't understand why it's changing when you turn the camera off... Mine remembers where I left off...
(It's probably because yours isn't noisy.)
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10/17/2010 07:49:18 PM · #17 |
i recently had a loaner from cps that came without a manual. the review/overview at dpreview took some time to work through, but it showed me how to use every function on the camera...maybe it might help you as well.
i know a lot of us have a tendency to think a camera is a camera and that we shouldn't have to do anything more than pick it up and to go to it, but these things are seriously sophisticated. take your time and ease into it and you are going to have more fun than you ever imagined.
good luck! |
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10/17/2010 08:00:03 PM · #18 |
Yah, Skip, I think that was my thinking to be honest. I did expect it to be as cushy as the 50 adn that there would not be a steep learning curve. (for me, I am a hands on person versus reading the manual, WHICH I think is still laid out horrendously)
Usually there is not that 'much' difference between models on the lower scale of things. I believed that I would be able to jump right off where I started with the 50 (as I did with the XTI).
It is proving to be a different beast all together and not one that I was prepared for.
Which is my fault. So my frustration level is high right now, as I am unable to produce anything-at all that I can actually edit.
I kinda feel like I am in Kindergarten and watching everyone else crayon in the lines and me crayoning on the floor |
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10/17/2010 08:30:49 PM · #19 |
Originally posted by JulietNN:
Yah, Skip, I think that was my thinking to be honest. I did expect it to be as cushy as the 50 adn that there would not be a steep learning curve. (for me, I am a hands on person versus reading the manual, WHICH I think is still laid out horrendously)
Usually there is not that 'much' difference between models on the lower scale of things. I believed that I would be able to jump right off where I started with the 50 (as I did with the XTI).
It is proving to be a different beast all together and not one that I was prepared for.
Which is my fault. So my frustration level is high right now, as I am unable to produce anything-at all that I can actually edit.
I kinda feel like I am in Kindergarten and watching everyone else crayon in the lines and me crayoning on the floor |
That passes, and it actually passes quickly -- but I was just as frustrated when I picked up mine. I knew my 40D very well, and I just couldn't find things on the 7D! And then they didn't work how I expected them to work. But the frustration passes quickly.
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