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 08/05/2010 02:34:10 PM · #76
Thanks Paul.
 08/05/2010 03:17:22 PM · #77
well, if it helps, you can just use the names and get rid of the quickie descriptions. They're way too simplifying anyway.
 08/05/2010 03:31:50 PM · #78
Saul Leiter - one of my all time favourites

Chris Marker - probably better known for his movies, but ..
08/05/2010 03:35:40 PM · #79
Wynn Bullock favorite of mine.
 08/05/2010 04:02:38 PM · #80
Originally posted by posthumous:
well, if it helps, you can just use the names and get rid of the quickie descriptions. They're way too simplifying anyway.

As far as getting this going, it makes no difference, though it would help if those of you promoting this idea could decide on a consistent format.

I think the only critical components are the name and one or more links to reference works for those unfamiliar with that photographer. But note that whether or not you include a summary of that person's work or style, there will surely be a raging argument sober discussion of same in the forums.

Also, I want to add Galen and Barbara Rowell/Mountain Light Photography to the list.

Also, I just remembered that somewhere is at least one huge list (i.e. thread) of people's favorite photographers, most with one or more links. Perhaps someone could harvest more suggestions from there ... ;-)
 08/05/2010 04:25:04 PM · #81
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... though it would help if those of you promoting this idea could decide on a consistent format


Your format, of a month long challenge, run every two months, would be perfect. The editing rules should run the gamut (probably mostly advanced), depending on the photog under the glass.

08/05/2010 04:30:14 PM · #82
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Also, I just remembered that somewhere is at least one huge list (i.e. thread) of people's favorite photographers, most with one or more links. Perhaps someone could harvest more suggestions from there ... ;-)

Were you thinking of this?

08/05/2010 04:51:27 PM · #83
I would also suggest that only participants be allowed to vote. Otherwise, the winner will be just another pretty face. Juried would be better, if it could be arranged.

08/05/2010 05:19:42 PM · #84
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Also, I just remembered that somewhere is at least one huge list (i.e. thread) of people's favorite photographers, most with one or more links. Perhaps someone could harvest more suggestions from there ... ;-)

Were you thinking of this?

Even if not, that seems a perfectly acceptable substitute ... ;-)

Originally posted by pointandshoot:
I would also suggest that only participants be allowed to vote. Otherwise, the winner will be just another pretty face. Juried would be better, if it could be arranged.

Now you're making things complicated again ... :-(
 08/05/2010 05:55:19 PM · #85
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
I would also suggest that only participants be allowed to vote. Otherwise, the winner will be just another pretty face. Juried would be better, if it could be arranged.

Now you're making things complicated again ... :-(


Just FYI, the original purpose for this suggestion was for people to learn about the history of photography and in doing so hopefully gain a little insight into the ways of seeing that were so cucial in the masters' works. The goal is not to just run a challenge called Henri Cartier Bresson and then everyone proceed to pick out a famous photograph to recreate. That would be a complete fail. Instead read up on the guy, view his work and let it inspire you. The best entries would be the ones that still have the master's influences but is otherwise a unique entry that is reflective of the person taking the shot.

That said, I do agree that we should keep it simple at least for now so it can get started. We can always tweak things later or enhance the experience of these new challenges by doing stuff on the side (ex jury side challenges, etc).

ETA: And thanks Paul for bumping the SC thread and for others bumping this one.

Message edited by author 2010-08-05 17:55:57.
 08/05/2010 06:00:10 PM · #86
Originally posted by salmiakki:
Saul Leiter - one of my all time favourites


And he shoots in color too, which should appease the b/w challenged. :P
 08/05/2010 06:02:21 PM · #87
I certainly thought that this was to be an inspired by / in the style of rather than a repeat / recreate. All the better for it too.
 08/05/2010 06:17:12 PM · #88
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
I would also suggest that only participants be allowed to vote. Otherwise, the winner will be just another pretty face. Juried would be better, if it could be arranged.

Now you're making things complicated again ... :-(


No problem... keep the voting as is. For me, the main attraction of this would be the exercise, and the month long discussion leading up to the actual voting.

and definitely, make it "inspired by" and not "recreate"

08/05/2010 06:22:06 PM · #89
I still like "In The Style Of ..."

I'm all for people studying up and learning/deciding for themselves just what might represent that "style" which they can make, especially by posting as many reference links as possible.
 08/06/2010 12:30:06 AM · #90
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I still like "In The Style Of ..."

I'm all for people studying up and learning/deciding for themselves just what might represent that "style" which they can make, especially by posting as many reference links as possible.


Yes, it will be an excellent learning experience - the discussion thread, alone, will be worth the price of admission. I don't foresee any downside.

08/06/2010 01:29:03 PM · #91
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
I still like "In The Style Of ..."

I'm all for people studying up and learning/deciding for themselves just what might represent that "style" which they can make, especially by posting as many reference links as possible.


Yes, it will be an excellent learning experience - the discussion thread, alone, will be worth the price of admission. I don't foresee any downside.


amen, and I'm happy with "In the Style Of..."
 08/06/2010 02:10:49 PM · #92
yes
 08/06/2010 02:16:04 PM · #93
FYI -- I am continuing to try and get the attention of the powers-that-be to discuss/do something about this ... I'm not sure if the alarm is malfunctioning or if someone's hitting the snooze button. :-)

Please be patient -- I'm pretty confident something like this will indeed happen at some point.
 08/06/2010 03:13:22 PM · #94
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
... though it would help if those of you promoting this idea could decide on a consistent format


Your format, of a month long challenge, run every two months, would be perfect. The editing rules should run the gamut (probably mostly advanced), depending on the photog under the glass.


Absolutely - I think a month long challenge would be essential to its success, to give a chance for challenge entrants to immerse themselves in the work of the 'great'.
 08/06/2010 04:09:47 PM · #95
Can those of you following this take a quick poll or something amongst yourselves to suggest a specific photographer to help get it started?
 08/06/2010 05:28:28 PM · #96
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Can those of you following this take a quick poll or something amongst yourselves to suggest a specific photographer to help get it started?


Bresson for sure.
 08/06/2010 05:46:49 PM · #97
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Can those of you following this take a quick poll or something amongst yourselves to suggest a specific photographer to help get it started?


Bresson for sure.

for sure
 08/06/2010 05:55:15 PM · #98
Originally posted by pointandshoot:
Originally posted by posthumous:
Originally posted by GeneralE:
Can those of you following this take a quick poll or something amongst yourselves to suggest a specific photographer to help get it started?


Bresson for sure.

for sure

Oh FO' SHO! Just one thing...

Rule: It must be taken at the 35mm-equivalent focal length of 50mm, and under "Minimal Editing," as he believed in using only the nifty-fifty and not post-processing or recomposing in the darkroom. This means that the focal length data must be encoded by the camera in the EXIF data.

/I do believe that it's not an editable part of the EXIF data (Camera Model, ISO, Metering Mode, and some others are all editable)

ETA: Dammit, the actual focal length field is protected, but not the 35mm-equivalent. So if there's a validation issue, the SC would have to find the camera specs ("focal length: xx-xx mm, xx-xxx mm equivalent") and do the conversion manually from the "focal length" field.

Message edited by author 2010-08-06 18:00:16.
 08/06/2010 05:58:09 PM · #99
I think Bresson would be an excellent introduction. Aside from the fact that he is one of the photographers I most admire, he is possibly the most accessible of the 'Masters of Photography'.
 08/06/2010 05:59:49 PM · #100
Oh, darn. I was thinking Sally Mann.

HCB, OK by me.
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