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07/20/2010 11:25:07 PM · #1 |
I am finally taken some time to set up my D700 and although I'm not following Ken Rockwell's tips to a T, I am considering them as a guide.
He is not a proponent of shooting RAW like I am, especially with the D700 and I think that his suggestions as far as "Picture Control" here probably only affect the camera's jpegs. I want to be sure, however, that the RAW files will not be affected and that I can still have full control to post process the RAW files as I like them.
I think that I'm right in that the RAW files will remain unaffected. I know that for some that this seems like a dumb question and for others it's even dumber to consider anything that Ken Rockwell says (I remember, well, the hate thread) but he does write a lot of useful information (beyond his opinions) and I think that his settings might be a good place to start.
Thanks for your help. |
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07/20/2010 11:29:48 PM · #2 |
Not sure on Nikon, but on Canon the settings only affect how the data is presented to the RAW software - all the original file data is still there and the camera adjustments can be turned down or even off in the software.
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07/20/2010 11:30:38 PM · #3 |
| Sorry you lost me at Ken Rockwell...........however somewhere along the line I got back on track and you are correct RAW images aren't affected by aren't adjusted by picture settings........however realize that some software takes that information and does those adjustments to your image as they are imported........others will not. Then you lost me again when you said something about his settings being a good place to start........ |
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07/21/2010 12:22:31 AM · #4 |
Speaking in Nikonese and Aperture dialect: yes, RAW is RAW, and the in camera settings affect the jpeg (if you are also capturing jpeg) as well as the jpeg image displayed on the LCD (I believe this one, or a separate small jpeg file is imbedded in the RAW data for previews, etc., and it will also be affected by the settings). In Aperture, there is a selection to apply the in-camera settings to imported RAW files or not.
I suspect, but do not know, that there must be something similar in Lightroom. But you do need to be aware, as others have said, that some software automatically applies those settings, and be sure what your software does. |
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07/21/2010 12:25:38 AM · #5 |
Originally posted by chromeydome:
.......But you do need to be aware, as others have said, that some software automatically applies those settings, and be sure what your software does. |
I'm using Nikon Capture NX2. I'll have to look to see if the in-camera settings can be applied if I want them to be. |
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07/21/2010 01:09:15 AM · #6 |
Your picture settings will affect the rendering of the embedded previews. NX will read some (perhaps all?) of them, including things like "d-lighting", as a starting point (overriding any NX2 defaults). LR will completely ignore them.
A common point of confusion for some in LR is that LR will first render previews based on the embedded preview in the NEF itself, then "switch" to an LR-generated preview once it has time to render a proper preview from the NEF + develop settings (based on LR defaults, camera-profile, camera-specific defaults, and develop presets you have applied). If you don't have your LR/ACR settings and your camera-settings close to the same, this "switch" can be drastic, and causes some folks lots of confusion.
I can't believe I'm replying to a thread containing the name of he-who-shall-not-be-spoken. [ waves Jedi hand ] This is not the camera advice you are looking for...... |
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07/21/2010 08:55:59 AM · #7 |
Yes, sadly the Ken Rockwell, Genius or Fool thread has been locked :-P
It still comes up at the very top of a Google search for "Genius or Fool", however, and 3rd on the list of a search for "Ken Rockwell." :-)
The RAW data is never affected by in-camera processing settings on either Nikon or Canon. The only non-hardware setting that affects RAW data is ISO. Whether the RAW conversion software will understand and apply the in-camera settings depends on whether it can understand how they are encoded. The camera manufacturers do not publish that data, so 3rd party converters do not understand the information on what in-camera processing settings were used.
Your CaptureNX software *will* understand the settings, and apply them if you wish, since it was written by Nikon. You should even be able to switch which "look" is applied after the fact.
FWIW, camera profiles do exist for some cameras for some 3rd-part converters; these allow you to apply approximations of the manufacturer's profiles after the fact, however it won't allow automatic application based on how it was shot. |
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07/21/2010 09:30:18 AM · #8 |
| Thanks, everybody, for replying. I don't use LR, I use Capture NX2 to download my files and I appreciate your assurances that I'll be able to have the choice to go with the in camera settings or that I can process the RAW files dynamically from shot to shot as I would like to. |
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