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06/28/2010 04:25:47 PM · #1
My sister has used our studio lately to do a few free shoots with some local foster children. It seemed pretty rewarding on both ends. The kids got to be center of attention for a while and left with some great photos.

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone here uses their photography skills in a non-profit sort of way....
06/28/2010 04:33:22 PM · #2
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Message edited by author 2010-06-28 16:33:41.
06/28/2010 04:34:45 PM · #3
Originally posted by cynthiann:

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone here uses their photography skills in a non-profit sort of way....


Actually, I suspect MOST of us use our photography skills in a decidedly non-profit way... Or isn't that what you meant? Sorry for the levity, couldn't help myself :-)

R.
06/28/2010 04:36:15 PM · #4
If volunteering to take family function pictures for friends and then sharing the images with them, some of them processed, and hearing back "thanks" counts, yes:-) But in no other way, sorry. Although its a fantastic idea!

Message edited by author 2010-06-28 16:36:40.
06/28/2010 05:00:36 PM · #5
I did a cancer benefit last year and have been asked to do it again this year.
06/28/2010 05:01:59 PM · #6
Originally posted by Kelli:

I did a cancer benefit last year and have been asked to do it again this year.


How do they know that you are willing to do this? I am curious.. if I wanted to do similar work?
06/28/2010 05:06:33 PM · #7
I do some photography for our Dino Doozer Foundation- "Fighting NF1 & Cancer into Extinction"
We have a dinosaur costume, our race car is in the same color theme and we bring kids to the races, and help support them with anything they or their families may need.

We love doing it and hope it continues for years to come!
06/28/2010 05:09:32 PM · #8
Originally posted by Prash:

Originally posted by Kelli:

I did a cancer benefit last year and have been asked to do it again this year.


How do they know that you are willing to do this? I am curious.. if I wanted to do similar work?


The benefit is put on by a salon that my aunt happens to own. ;D They do a "day of beauty" for people with cancer, everything is free. It makes everyone feel good, both the doer's & receiver's. I do most of her photography when needed.
06/28/2010 05:10:45 PM · #9
For the past two years my friend Richard and I have shot photos at the golf tournament run as a benefit for the Women's Cancer Resource Center in Oakland. The (unedited!) photos are shown as a slideshow during the dinner following the golf.

Tournament: Richard:

We also did the same for another local foundation last year.

But, I don't think all non-profits are created equally-deserving of special treatment -- I think I'd charge the Red Cross or the Gates Foundation the full rate to use a photo, but give a significant discount to a local, truly broke small group ...

Message edited by author 2010-06-28 17:15:22.
06/28/2010 05:10:56 PM · #10
Originally posted by Kelli:

Originally posted by Prash:

Originally posted by Kelli:

I did a cancer benefit last year and have been asked to do it again this year.


How do they know that you are willing to do this? I am curious.. if I wanted to do similar work?


The benefit is put on by a salon that my aunt happens to own. ;D They do a "day of beauty" for people with cancer, everything is free. It makes everyone feel good, both the doer's & receiver's. I do most of her photography when needed.


Nice!!!

I gotta get my Aunt to start a salon now. J/K:-)

Thanks for the info, and keep up the great work!
06/28/2010 05:12:39 PM · #11
Originally posted by cynthiann:

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone here uses their photography skills in a non-profit sort of way....


Help-Portrait
06/28/2010 05:17:09 PM · #12
I've done the membership photos for the church in the past.
06/28/2010 06:10:57 PM · #13
I shot a wedding a few years back for a guy with Cancer, he arranged a snap wedding as he was told 6 months tops - I used to work with his sister and she asked me if I knew anyone who could do it on the cheap - so seeing as a way to top up my karma reserves (which admittedly run pretty low most of the time) I offered my services.

Managed to get some great shots and I had this warm feeling inside which still confuses me to this day..

Good news. The guy is still with us! and that was at least 2, maybe 3 years ago now.

Thought he might of offered a few quid by now, just as way of saying thanks. Maybe I should email him - just to like, remind him that I did do it for nothing.. y`know.. because of his news. and now I kind of feel... y`know.

Or would that be negative karma?
06/28/2010 06:18:36 PM · #14
Originally posted by Simms:

I shot a wedding a few years back for a guy with Cancer, he arranged a snap wedding as he was told 6 months tops - I used to work with his sister and she asked me if I knew anyone who could do it on the cheap - so seeing as a way to top up my karma reserves (which admittedly run pretty low most of the time) I offered my services.

Managed to get some great shots and I had this warm feeling inside which still confuses me to this day..

Good news. The guy is still with us! and that was at least 2, maybe 3 years ago now.

Thought he might of offered a few quid by now, just as way of saying thanks. Maybe I should email him - just to like, remind him that I did do it for nothing.. y`know.. because of his news. and now I kind of feel... y`know.

Or would that be negative karma?


Oooh - negative karma overload mate . .

You can hardly be cross at him for not shuffling off this mortal coil to other peoples time frames :- )

How about giving yourself a little boost by focussing on the fact that he's got more time than anyone expected to realise what great wedding pictures he's got ?
06/28/2010 06:25:36 PM · #15
Originally posted by Simms:

... and now I kind of feel... y`know.



Hopefully his wife isn't thinking along those lines. ;P (smack my mouth)
06/28/2010 06:33:44 PM · #16
Originally posted by cdrice:

Originally posted by cynthiann:

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone here uses their photography skills in a non-profit sort of way....


Help-Portrait


Thanks for the link Chuck, well worth joining.

Mike

Message edited by author 2010-06-28 18:34:35.
06/28/2010 06:35:36 PM · #17
Originally posted by Simms:

I shot a wedding a few years back for a guy with Cancer, he arranged a snap wedding as he was told 6 months tops - I used to work with his sister and she asked me if I knew anyone who could do it on the cheap - so seeing as a way to top up my karma reserves (which admittedly run pretty low most of the time) I offered my services.

Managed to get some great shots and I had this warm feeling inside which still confuses me to this day..

Good news. The guy is still with us! and that was at least 2, maybe 3 years ago now.

Thought he might of offered a few quid by now, just as way of saying thanks. Maybe I should email him - just to like, remind him that I did do it for nothing.. y`know.. because of his news. and now I kind of feel... y`know.

Or would that be negative karma?


So you fell for the old 'I only have 6 months to live' scam....

;-)

06/28/2010 06:58:29 PM · #18
Originally posted by Jedusi:

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How about giving yourself a little boost by focussing on the fact that he's got more time than anyone expected to realise what great wedding pictures he's got ?


Great FREE wedding photos.. ;-/

everyone knows I am just fucking about - glad he is still with us.

06/28/2010 06:59:24 PM · #19
Originally posted by Sevlow:

Originally posted by Simms:

I shot a wedding a few years back for a guy with Cancer, he arranged a snap wedding as he was told 6 months tops - I used to work with his sister and she asked me if I knew anyone who could do it on the cheap - so seeing as a way to top up my karma reserves (which admittedly run pretty low most of the time) I offered my services.

Managed to get some great shots and I had this warm feeling inside which still confuses me to this day..

Good news. The guy is still with us! and that was at least 2, maybe 3 years ago now.

Thought he might of offered a few quid by now, just as way of saying thanks. Maybe I should email him - just to like, remind him that I did do it for nothing.. y`know.. because of his news. and now I kind of feel... y`know.

Or would that be negative karma?


So you fell for the old 'I only have 6 months to live' scam....

;-)


I know - I didn't even see it coming - even during the speeches when he mentioned his upcoming 12 month world cruise.
06/28/2010 09:10:10 PM · #20
Originally posted by Sevlow:

Originally posted by cdrice:

Originally posted by cynthiann:

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone here uses their photography skills in a non-profit sort of way....


Help-Portrait


Thanks for the link Chuck, well worth joining.

Mike

Read the fine print on that......they're very specific about what you cannot do with the images.....which amounts to most everything.Yet they *will* use yours to promote their project.

Also, this is done locally with the head office okay, and the quality of the operation can vary greatly. The one that was done in my area was fairly shoestring, and not so well thought through.

Though I originally signed on, the local org was so disorganized and clueless, I went instead to what has since become my church and did the same thing for them. The beauty of it was that there were few restrictions put on the images I shot, and we have their use for our church.

There are many ways that you can use your skills to benefit and help non-profits, and most are seriously grateful.

I've done work for multiple organizations and it's quite fulfilling. Some of the work that I have done that I cherish the most is done for just that reason. Soome of it's a lot less official than specific 501(c)3 groups, but in those cases it's for persons, or organizations, that simply could not afford the services of a straight out pro.
06/28/2010 09:35:37 PM · #21
I have on several occassions and have found it to be a very rewarding experience. I don't talk about it because that is not the reason I do it. Met some really great people...
06/29/2010 03:28:50 AM · #22
Thanks for the heads-up Jeb.

06/29/2010 04:22:54 AM · #23
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Read the fine print on that......they're very specific about what you cannot do with the images.....which amounts to most everything.Yet they *will* use yours to promote their project.


I'm not sure what you are referring to here... Are you talking about the TOS for the Ning social network group that is set up for Help-Portrait? That forum is not "the" HP project itself -- that's just the social networking engine/software that allows discussion groups and all that fla fla fla. The ning TOS is just their standard boilerplate "content you upload to ning can be used to promote ning blah blah blah". There's no need to upload photos to the ning site whatsoever.

In fact, there's no need, overall, to share any of the images you take as part of a HP project with anyone at HP whatsoever. They go out of their way, in several instances, to specfically say they don't want any images -- HP is simply an umbrella organization to coordinate the efforts and promote the idea of using photography to support those who are less-fortunate.

Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Also, this is done locally with the head office okay, and the quality of the operation can vary greatly. The one that was done in my area was fairly shoestring, and not so well thought through.


Yes, absolutely. Remember again, though - HP is just a facilitator. Just like ebay being an auction site. There's plenty of crap and ripoffs on ebay as well as the "good stuff".

There's no need to associate yourself with an existing HP group, although they are "there" if you want to. You can do plenty of your own things, HP is just there to promote the ideas and give you starting points and ideas.
06/29/2010 06:15:08 AM · #24
Originally posted by cynthiann:

I guess I'm just wondering if anyone here uses their photography skills in a non-profit sort of way....

i pretty much have taken a "from each according to their ability, to each according to their need" approach to my work. getting paid is not always about cash...
06/29/2010 06:59:00 AM · #25
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Read the fine print on that......they're very specific about what you cannot do with the images.....which amounts to most everything.Yet they *will* use yours to promote their project.


Originally posted by cdrice:

I'm not sure what you are referring to here... Are you talking about the TOS for the Ning social network group that is set up for Help-Portrait? That forum is not "the" HP project itself -- that's just the social networking engine/software that allows discussion groups and all that fla fla fla. The ning TOS is just their standard boilerplate "content you upload to ning can be used to promote ning blah blah blah". There's no need to upload photos to the ning site whatsoever.

In fact, there's no need, overall, to share any of the images you take as part of a HP project with anyone at HP whatsoever. They go out of their way, in several instances, to specfically say they don't want any images -- HP is simply an umbrella organization to coordinate the efforts and promote the idea of using photography to support those who are less-fortunate.

Um.......where do you think they get all the images they have plastered all over their site????

Yet they are *very* specific about the individualphotogs *NOT* being able to use them in any manner personally.

It rankled me that they seem to presume that it'd be perfectly okay for me to spend my time and not even have the option of having any of the images available for my portfolio. Not that I would have necessarily wanted any, but that the option to make an agreement with any of the subjects was removed by their guidelines.

It should be up to the photogs and the subjects should they decide so.

It wasn't too long after the project ran that there was a video out on YouTube of a group in Japan or somewhere in the Far East that showed their session......why was that okay????

It was a lovely video, allwarm & fuzzy, but specifically against the rules.

My point is.......if you adhere to their guidelines, you go in under the strictures that you will not keep any images.

That was my caveat......make sure you understand, and are okay with that.If so, no thing.
Originally posted by NikonJeb:

Also, this is done locally with the head office okay, and the quality of the operation can vary greatly. The one that was done in my area was fairly shoestring, and not so well thought through.


Originally posted by cdrice:

Yes, absolutely. Remember again, though - HP is just a facilitator. Just like ebay being an auction site. There's plenty of crap and ripoffs on ebay as well as the "good stuff".

There's no need to associate yourself with an existing HP group, although they are "there" if you want to. You can do plenty of your own things, HP is just there to promote the ideas and give you starting points and ideas.

It's not like they are the first and/or only association that does that kind of thing. Hit up www.Idealist.org and search photograper and check it out.

Don't misunderstand me......I'm not against doing this, I simply wanted to mention that in the case of Help-Portrait, I thought it was unusual that they were so adamant about NOT being allowed to keep any images, or make any arrangements with the subjects. I didn't go into the project with the intent of expanding my portfolio, but it was something of a jolt to be told right out of the gate that I would not be on any terms.

So I donate my services elsewhere on different terms.
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