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05/11/2010 10:42:37 AM · #1601
Originally posted by purpleflutterby13:

I got one in :) //1x.com/v2/#photos/member/2604/13398/
Scored a 5.7 on DPC originally, not exactly earth-shattering... I guess the standards are different.

1 reject so far:
I'm joining Melethia in the 40 rejects quest :)


Very emotive image. Congrats on the publish!
05/11/2010 10:43:23 AM · #1602
I've had marginal success over at 1x. I really like the site and there are always some amazing images on display.

The only concern I have is that they seem very secretive about the selection process prior to an image getting into the member screening.

It appears that an image must first pass muster with the site ownership, at which point an image can go straight to published or sent to the screening process for the members to vote. And even if it passes member screening the site leadership and still chose not to publish.

I understand this to some degree in that they want to preserve the integrity of the site and images must be of a certain quality and have the "look" the ownership wants to convey.

I wonder though if some days the pre-screening process is subject to the whim and attitude of one or very few people on a given day. What if the day I submitted an image was a particularly bad day for the pre-screener? You have to wonder at times if images that get rejected prior to member screening might have a better chance of getting through depending on the mood of the pre-screener on that particular day.

Other than that, 1x is a great site and getting an image published there has the same rush as winning a ribbon here. Well, it does for me anyway.

You also can't beat the exposure. My last image came in 4th here in the B&W landscape challenge and has 1500+ views. A re-edit of the same image got published at 1x and now has close to 8000 views, and I never even saw it on the front page. It was already bumped off the front page by the time I realized it got published.

Just some thoughts.
05/11/2010 10:45:22 AM · #1603
I don't know what it is, but the views at 1x are incredible. I've got 10,000+ views on a couple of mine.
05/11/2010 10:57:44 AM · #1604
Originally posted by scarbrd:

I've had marginal success over at 1x. I really like the site and there are always some amazing images on display.

The only concern I have is that they seem very secretive about the selection process prior to an image getting into the member screening.

It appears that an image must first pass muster with the site ownership, at which point an image can go straight to published or sent to the screening process for the members to vote. And even if it passes member screening the site leadership and still chose not to publish.

I understand this to some degree in that they want to preserve the integrity of the site and images must be of a certain quality and have the "look" the ownership wants to convey.

I wonder though if some days the pre-screening process is subject to the whim and attitude of one or very few people on a given day. What if the day I submitted an image was a particularly bad day for the pre-screener? You have to wonder at times if images that get rejected prior to member screening might have a better chance of getting through depending on the mood of the pre-screener on that particular day.

Other than that, 1x is a great site and getting an image published there has the same rush as winning a ribbon here. Well, it does for me anyway.

You also can't beat the exposure. My last image came in 4th here in the B&W landscape challenge and has 1500+ views. A re-edit of the same image got published at 1x and now has close to 8000 views, and I never even saw it on the front page. It was already bumped off the front page by the time I realized it got published.

Just some thoughts.


I have thought the same thing about the pre-screening process. However, that is the subjective nature of art. Sometimes an image may move you depending on your mood (grumpy or grouchy as is) much more that if you were having a good day too! I have had success over at 1x, and enjoy that site, but still feel the slight sting of a rejection (I have plenty of them). I do have an image with well over 100,000 views, which I find incredible.
05/11/2010 11:04:23 AM · #1605
This was published I think, mid-morning on Saturday and it has 22,339 views. My best here on DPC is 16,424 for an image that Ribboned in 2005. An image that was rejected by 1x I should add...

I agree there might be the possibility that the whim of a few screeners (on a bad day) might knock you out of the box quickly and on a different day you may get into the second phase more easily based on another set of active screeners. Perhaps the quality, strength, number of the uploads on that particular day might also come into play. I assume the member vote has some weight but mainly provides interest, engagement and a nice way to get people involved in the site, instead of completely remote panel of judges...which could be very cold.

Message edited by author 2010-05-11 11:06:48.
05/11/2010 01:18:24 PM · #1606
The number of views is really good. The average view on my published images is about 21,000 per image. Those are unique views according to the owners. I can't get that anywhere else! The number of visitors to the site has grown a lot, and keeps growing. On the average, 1X gets about 100,000 unique visitors daily.

As for the screening process, it isn't secret. All images go through an initial screening (not by the owners, but by screening crew). Some are rejected immediately (images that we know will never make it to the front page, images with borders or with added text, stuff like that). The rest go either to internal review, to member screening, or are published immediately. In internal review, screening crew discusses publish/reject of the image, in member screening we do the same but after input from the members (votes and comments). Intant-publishes are rare. We publish about 7% of all images sent in for review. Yeah, screener mood and "whim" can have something to do with it, but we do try to be careful and respectful of all images sent in for review. Images that stand out will stand out even if a screener is in a bad mood for a little while. And that's [part of] why we don't have just one screener, but 6 of them.

1X never has presented itself as anything more than a magazine or a photo-gallery, with a constantly changing or evolving front page to showcase some of the best work out there. It is not a statement about what is or isn't art, or about what is or isn't good photography. The intent is to have a very good (the best) collection of photographs from both amateurs and professionals. One thing we do work at, or try to work at, is to keep the front-page fresh and varied, which is not easy! We try to have a good mix of categories and also of B&W and colour work. That's different than most galleries/magazines, where colour/B&W is often not mixed, and often neither are categories. One thing I find personally rewarding is to look at the individual portfolios of various artists; most of the time there's a consistency there that to me is really a beautiful thing to study! It is quite interesting how all these artists have managed to each have their own unique style, and be successful within that style. Anyway.

05/11/2010 01:29:34 PM · #1607
my first submission and rejection, im im glad to be honest :D lool
05/11/2010 02:44:20 PM · #1608
Originally posted by hojop25:

my first submission and rejection, im im glad to be honest :D lool


Why? Why are you glad that is?
05/11/2010 02:50:20 PM · #1609
Originally posted by njsabs:

I do have an image with well over 100,000 views...


OH MY! Well, that's definitely not enough! Would you please post the link so we may see such an incredible image (and we'll boost your views even more!)
05/11/2010 03:08:14 PM · #1610
Originally posted by dainmcgowan:

finally... after a year of trying to get in, I managed to sneak one in under their radar.



link


A new favorite for me...
05/11/2010 03:10:07 PM · #1611
After keeping up with this thread for a good while, I decided to try my luck. Took a couple days in screening, but I've got my first rejection under my belt. Time to try again.
05/11/2010 03:16:12 PM · #1612
Originally posted by ursula:

The number of views is really good. The average view on my published images is about 21,000 per image. Those are unique views according to the owners. I can't get that anywhere else! The number of visitors to the site has grown a lot, and keeps growing. On the average, 1X gets about 100,000 unique visitors daily.

As for the screening process, it isn't secret. All images go through an initial screening (not by the owners, but by screening crew). Some are rejected immediately (images that we know will never make it to the front page, images with borders or with added text, stuff like that). The rest go either to internal review, to member screening, or are published immediately. In internal review, screening crew discusses publish/reject of the image, in member screening we do the same but after input from the members (votes and comments). Intant-publishes are rare. We publish about 7% of all images sent in for review. Yeah, screener mood and "whim" can have something to do with it, but we do try to be careful and respectful of all images sent in for review. Images that stand out will stand out even if a screener is in a bad mood for a little while. And that's [part of] why we don't have just one screener, but 6 of them.



Thanks for the info Ursala. Has the screening process changed from a year or so ago? I remember when I firat joined there was a lot of talk in the forums about the pre-screening process or the lack of visibility into how it was done. The format you described is much more pragmatic than I had been led to believe.
05/11/2010 03:25:23 PM · #1613
Originally posted by scarbrd:

Has the screening process changed from a year or so ago? I remember when I firat joined there was a lot of talk in the forums about the pre-screening process or the lack of visibility into how it was done. The format you described is much more pragmatic than I had been led to believe.


I'm not sure how much it's *changed*, but it's described in detail in their FAQs...

R.
05/11/2010 03:25:44 PM · #1614
Originally posted by Prash:

Originally posted by dainmcgowan:

finally... after a year of trying to get in, I managed to sneak one in under their radar.



link


A new favorite for me...


Ditto. Sweet image.

R.
05/11/2010 03:27:57 PM · #1615
Wow, my first (and only) acceptance has been up for less than 2 days and it has over 6,100 unique views. That's impressive... These people generate some serious traffic :-)

R.
05/11/2010 03:41:52 PM · #1616
Originally posted by Melethia:

You know, it still stings a bit when I get rejected (and I only submit once every month or two - and only the shots I think might fly) but I can understand it now. I don't have the depth that some get. I have yet to figure if it is in my initial exposure, or my post processing. If anyone wants to lend a hand in that arena, I'd be more than happy to have some assistance! I am quite aware of the need for "story" - that's something I always try to find but it is rather elusive.

At any rate, even DPC has been beating me down quite regularly. I find a moment or two of solace now and then with just me and my own photography, not compared to anyone else. I'd posted five potential "gems" for a friend to have a look at - when I look back at those five, including the one posted here as my most recent rejection, I am still very pleased with all of them. None will be published at 1x, and none will fare well here for that matter. I may, though, print at least one of these for myself. Sometimes that will just have to be enough.


I know what you mean Deb. I put this one in:


And they told me it was a nice shot but most of the people that looked at it had problems with the composition. Personally, I like the composition just the way it is and don't plan on changing it. I really don't see where any crop would make it better because I think the useless sky adds dreariness to it. but that's just me. I will probably enter more images out there but I'm not expecting anything. I'm going to try and not let it bother me. Anyway Deb, I like your images.

Message edited by author 2010-05-11 15:45:34.
05/11/2010 03:47:44 PM · #1617
Originally posted by bmartuch:

I know what you mean Deb. I put this one in:


And they told me it was a nice shot but most of the people that looked at it had problems with the composition. Personally, I like the composition just the way it is and don't plan on changing it. I really don't see where any crop would make it better because I think the useless sky adds dreariness to it. but that's just me. I will probably enter more images out there but I'm not expecting anything. I'm going to try and not let it bother me. Anyway Deb, I like your images.


How do you feel about this crop, and this gradient for the sky?



R.

ETA: Looking at them side-by-side, I think I've overcooked the sky even for my heavy-handed tastes. Somewhere in between?

Message edited by author 2010-05-11 15:48:53.
05/11/2010 03:48:55 PM · #1618
Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by njsabs:

I do have an image with well over 100,000 views...


OH MY! Well, that's definitely not enough! Would you please post the link so we may see such an incredible image (and we'll boost your views even more!)


This image has over 122,000 views at 1x.com.

Learning to Fly

This image is nearly at 99,000

SuperBoy

05/11/2010 04:21:30 PM · #1619
Well, look what's in the random images row on the front page today.
05/11/2010 04:28:26 PM · #1620
Originally posted by njsabs:

Originally posted by hihosilver:

Originally posted by njsabs:

I do have an image with well over 100,000 views...


OH MY! Well, that's definitely not enough! Would you please post the link so we may see such an incredible image (and we'll boost your views even more!)


This image has over 122,000 views at 1x.com.

Learning to Fly

This image is nearly at 99,000

SuperBoy


Which membership do you have and how many uploads do you get with it per week?
05/11/2010 04:33:41 PM · #1621
Originally posted by Louis:

Well, look what's in the random images row on the front page today.


A perfect reminder for us all...;-)
05/11/2010 04:36:46 PM · #1622
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Wow, my first (and only) acceptance has been up for less than 2 days and it has over 6,100 unique views. That's impressive... These people generate some serious traffic :-)

R.


Congrats! Just saw your image.
05/11/2010 04:41:54 PM · #1623
Originally posted by yanko:

Which membership do you have and how many uploads do you get with it per week?


The free membership allows one upload a week, and you can "earn", by commenting etc, another bonus slot each week.

The basic Bronze Membership gives 3 upload slots per week and (I think) a possible 3 bonus slots.

The upgraded Bronze membership gives 5 upload slots a week, I'm not sure about additional bonus slots, and it lets you create a home page to display your work that you can upload into without screening.

(I've been doing some research over there :-)...)

R.
05/11/2010 04:47:31 PM · #1624
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by yanko:

Which membership do you have and how many uploads do you get with it per week?


The free membership allows one upload a week, and you can "earn", by commenting etc, another bonus slot each week.

The basic Bronze Membership gives 3 upload slots per week and (I think) a possible 3 bonus slots.

The upgraded Bronze membership gives 5 upload slots a week, I'm not sure about additional bonus slots, and it lets you create a home page to display your work that you can upload into without screening.

(I've been doing some research over there :-)...)

R.


And I've been lazy waiting for someone to do that research. :P Thanks.
05/11/2010 04:57:08 PM · #1625
Originally posted by Bear_Music:

Originally posted by yanko:

Which membership do you have and how many uploads do you get with it per week?


The free membership allows one upload a week, and you can "earn", by commenting etc, another bonus slot each week.

The basic Bronze Membership gives 3 upload slots per week and (I think) a possible 3 bonus slots.

The upgraded Bronze membership gives 5 upload slots a week, I'm not sure about additional bonus slots, and it lets you create a home page to display your work that you can upload into without screening.

(I've been doing some research over there :-)...)

R.


I thought I read the Home Page thing costs $59 per year. I've been considering it, or maybe that's something else.
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