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05/10/2010 02:10:19 AM · #1576 |
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05/10/2010 02:41:37 AM · #1577 |
Grats Robert, what a complex and structured shot, it's perfect for their jaded old world souls ;) |
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05/10/2010 02:51:13 AM · #1578 |
Well done! It feels good doesn't it? |
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05/10/2010 05:14:11 AM · #1579 |
Congrats Rob! Thats great news and a fantastic shot! |
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05/10/2010 09:00:44 AM · #1580 |
Robert is in the house! Congrats! |
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05/10/2010 09:22:51 AM · #1581 |
Originally posted by NikonJeb: I belong to about a half dozen sites and this place is far and away the best one as far as a place to work on, and develop my skills and abilities. I also know that I can get help because of how often a helping hand has been extended to me.
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Jeb - No offense, I hope but you didn't seem to be digesting what people have been saying in this thread regarding 1x and what they are there for. In short, it's not a place where people go to "develop their skills" it's a showcase. Like the Guggenhiem or the Met, it's the same thing and you'll note that many contributors there have themes that they explore in great depth and many have been doing focused work for many years. There are some dabblers but a good deal of folks are super heavy about what they do either pro or very serious hobbyists.
DPC is fine but it's also a bubble, a microcosm with many limitations. There are plenty of talented people here and a lot of newbies that affect the content whereas 1x isn't really limited at all. If you truly want to learn, read their Forums and some of the topics. Many people that post are no joke and can back their statements with experience and images that support their views...
Top Ten Things To Look For In Street Photography
Top Ten Things To Look For In Portraiture
In their Forums I've been turned onto brilliant, inspirational Photographers, video interviews, exhibitions etc...whereas here, the same type of threads/posts get completely ignored. I've gotten as much from those threads as I have anywhere else. Pound for pound there are a lot of heavy hitters over there worth following, in the forums or by looking at their work. Again, DPC is fine but it is a very, very small pond with a pretty narrow scope.
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eta: Bear - Congrats. Beautiful shot...feels good, no?
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 11:36:53. |
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05/10/2010 10:37:24 AM · #1582 |
my photo got put in to screening straight away, is that good? or just normal? |
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05/10/2010 10:40:26 AM · #1583 |
I thought there was no way in hell you were going to try? ;-) |
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05/10/2010 11:00:34 AM · #1584 |
Originally posted by hojop25: my photo got put in to screening straight away, is that good? or just normal? |
Thats pretty normal depending on the time difference i think. Then, for me, it has usually taken between 1-3 days to get it rejected. I still have not got to the next stage of screening where i might get a comment or two. |
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05/10/2010 11:17:25 AM · #1585 |
Curious to know that even though that they suggest you post a higher res shot, 900-950px for landscapes and 700-750px for portait orientation. Would one get penalized/rejected for posting say at 720px wide? Except one or two I haven't seen a single shot posted in the past year or so that's smaller than 800px.
Simply put, has anyone posted a shot that got rejected and then reposted it in a higher res and then got accepted?
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 11:19:43. |
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05/10/2010 11:27:26 AM · #1586 |
Originally posted by Techo: Curious to know that even though that they suggest you post a higher res shot, 900-950px for landscapes and 700-750px for portait orientation. Would one get penalized/rejected for posting say at 720px wide? Except one or two I haven't seen a single shot posted in the past year or so that's smaller than 800px.
Simply put, has anyone posted a shot that got rejected and then reposted it in a higher res and then got accepted? |
It happens, but I can't remember any particular image right now where that's been the case. We routinely reject images that are small with a note about size, and we often get reuploads. The biggest problem is that people who might be new to the whole thing just upsize the small image and then it usually just looks bad.
As for the 700-750 guideline, it should read 800-850 (I think it's a typo).
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05/10/2010 11:28:35 AM · #1587 |
Originally posted by clive_patric_nolan: Then, for me, it has usually taken between 1-3 days to get it rejected. I still have not got to the next stage of screening where i might get a comment or two. |
I had one in screening for about 5 days and I really thought maybe it would get published, but at least I did get some good feedback. I just looked at it again and think I may upload an improved version based on those comments.
The last 3 I submitted didn't even make it to member screening. Mostly it doesn't bother me, but I would have liked to get at least this one published.
I don't submit very often as mostly I don't think I have 1x type material.
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05/10/2010 11:29:26 AM · #1588 |
Originally posted by Louis: I thought there was no way in hell you were going to try? ;-) |
I couldnt resist ;P |
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05/10/2010 12:31:24 PM · #1589 |
What cool looking CHOPSTICKS!...;-P
Way to go, BEAR!!!! Such beautiful lighting and serenity! |
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05/10/2010 12:59:52 PM · #1590 |
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05/10/2010 01:34:21 PM · #1591 |
Originally posted by hihosilver:
However, 1x clearly strives to present the "Best of the Best" and all that is sublime, and all of us love to admire the tremendous photos presented in such a beautiful way. But, on the other side of the coin, when comparisons like this one are made, I have to wonder are such comparisons healthy and does an inherent danger lie in allowing 1x to play the part of "validator" for images that may be just as properly weighed independently for their own individual beauty and merit by each of us as a broader audience. I enjoy 1x as a gallery of inspirational presentation, but hardly as a place to determine and measure entirely what I like or don't like.
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A shrewd observation/conclusion, right on target. It mirrors my own feelings on the subject.
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05/10/2010 01:34:26 PM · #1592 |
Keep in mind Louis is the one who made the comparison and he himself feels the 1x image was "superior" to his...in his own words. More important he gave reasons why he felt the other image was better and I think that is as healthy a discussion as you will ever get. Nothing to be bothered about. I also believe he showed some real introspection which is the key to learning...if people really do want to learn. I agree with what he said NOT because 1x gave it their stamp of approval but because I think the image is stronger in a number of ways...just an opinion.
On the other side of the coin is DPC, scores, Ribbons any better or any less dangerous as a "validator" of merit, worth, beauty, talent etc.?
Anyway...all discussion is good, no matter how pointed and people can make up their minds how much weight they wish to throw in any direction and personally I think 1x is as strong a jury as I can find on the internet. Keep in mind I've been vocal both there and here about work they publish that I think...ain't all that but generally speaking, they do a really great job.
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 14:00:21. |
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05/10/2010 02:29:11 PM · #1593 |
I have to say I prefer the 1x photograph over Louis'. To me it's more personal. The reflection and the overall pristine quality of Louis' rendition, while looking nice, act as a barrier, IMO. Or perhaps I'm just describing tendencies in my own work and projecting it on to his?
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 14:29:29.
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05/10/2010 02:36:09 PM · #1594 |
Originally posted by yanko:
I have to say I prefer the 1x photograph over Louis'. To me it's more personal. The reflection and the overall pristine quality of Louis' rendition, while looking nice, act as a barrier, IMO. Or perhaps I'm just describing tendencies in my own work and projecting it on to his? |
Wow...I was thinking that exact same thing. I think the details in Louis's image command a little too much attention taking you a bit off message. Whereas the 1x images distance and lack of detail helps thrust the meaning of the shot more effectively and with subtle nuance.
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 14:38:40. |
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05/10/2010 03:27:54 PM · #1595 |
Originally posted by pawdrix: Originally posted by yanko:
I have to say I prefer the 1x photograph over Louis'. To me it's more personal. The reflection and the overall pristine quality of Louis' rendition, while looking nice, act as a barrier, IMO. Or perhaps I'm just describing tendencies in my own work and projecting it on to his? |
Wow...I was thinking that exact same thing. I think the details in Louis's image command a little too much attention taking you a bit off message. Whereas the 1x images distance and lack of detail helps thrust the meaning of the shot more effectively and with subtle nuance. |
Hmph...the title of Louis' image is "Towards the Within"...the reflection clearly supports the "self reflection" and inner attitude of the model as expressed in the enclosed fetal pose and position. Also, the pristine look of the image supports the almost android look of the image. Clearly, the model is male, yet the longer fine hair gives a rather feminine look as held back by the long refined fingers. All may relate to this image.
The 1x image entitled "Rejection" clearly shows the strong rejection as the dominant dark line pierces through the body of the model and the fetal position shows here the abjection of the human spirit hanging in suspension.
So, as I said, I enjoy both photos for different reasons...;-)
My main point wasn't so much in objection of the comparison of these two photos (which I know Louis himself made), but rather that a 1x photo should in any way discount Louis' work.
The purpose of 1x doesn't strike me as the motivation for comparisons, but rather as a motivation for inspiration.
Okay...I'm taking off my Devil's Advocate horns now as I sense the flame throwers are about to emerge...;-P |
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05/10/2010 03:37:09 PM · #1596 |
Originally posted by hihosilver: Originally posted by pawdrix: Originally posted by yanko:
I have to say I prefer the 1x photograph over Louis'. To me it's more personal. The reflection and the overall pristine quality of Louis' rendition, while looking nice, act as a barrier, IMO. Or perhaps I'm just describing tendencies in my own work and projecting it on to his? |
Wow...I was thinking that exact same thing. I think the details in Louis's image command a little too much attention taking you a bit off message. Whereas the 1x images distance and lack of detail helps thrust the meaning of the shot more effectively and with subtle nuance. |
Hmph...the title of Louis' image is "Towards the Within"...the reflection clearly supports the "self reflection" and inner attitude of the model as expressed in the enclosed fetal pose and position. Also, the pristine look of the image supports the almost android look of the image. Clearly, the model is male, yet the longer fine hair gives a rather feminine look as held back by the long refined fingers. All may relate to this image.
The 1x image entitled "Rejection" clearly shows the strong rejection as the dominant dark line pierces through the body of the model and the fetal position shows here the abjection of the human spirit hanging in suspension.
So, as I said, I enjoy both photos for different reasons...;-)
My main point wasn't so much in objection of the comparison of these two photos (which I know Louis himself made), but rather that a 1x photo should in any way discount Louis' work.
The purpose of 1x doesn't strike me as the motivation for comparisons, but rather as a motivation for inspiration.
Okay...I'm taking off my Devil's Advocate horns now as I sense the flame throwers are about to emerge...;-P |
Well both photos are missing UFOs so there.
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05/10/2010 03:43:43 PM · #1597 |
Originally posted by yanko: Well both photos are missing UFOs so there. |
My point EXACTLY!...::beams at Yanko:: |
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05/10/2010 03:44:22 PM · #1598 |
Originally posted by hihosilver: The purpose of 1x doesn't strike me as the motivation for comparisons, but rather as a motivation for inspiration. |
That is exactly right. In comparing the two, I tried not to suggest that the 1x photo was superior because it was a 1x photo, but because it was far and away more evocative for me than the other. It is, in fact, the style of photo, in technicals and intent, that I strive for -- sometimes successfully, most times not. The caveat must always be borne in mind that interpretation is virtually always subjective. It so happens that 1x publishes photos that are more aligned with my opinions and outlook on images and photography than any other place, and because of the high quality of the submissions there, comparisons, for me, are surely to begin there.
(On a personal note, you are also correct in your interpretation of my photo, which tried to suggest softness or vulnerability in the masculine form, per my comments.)
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 15:45:38. |
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05/10/2010 06:18:02 PM · #1599 |
Originally posted by Louis: (On a personal note, you are also correct in your interpretation of my photo, which tried to suggest softness or vulnerability in the masculine form, per my comments.) |
Whew! I got something right...;-)
Message edited by author 2010-05-10 22:10:41. |
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05/11/2010 05:19:19 AM · #1600 |
I got one in :) //1x.com/v2/#photos/member/2604/13398/
Scored a 5.7 on DPC originally, not exactly earth-shattering... I guess the standards are different.
1 reject so far:
I'm joining Melethia in the 40 rejects quest :) |
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