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			|  | 04/24/2010 03:37:54 PM · #101 | 
		| | | Originally posted by paulbtlw: Consequently a coastal shot should be OK??
 
 Opinions please. (Should I duck now?)
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 It sure as hell better be; I've got nothing BUT coast here... Seriously, "landscape" is an uber-category, and seascapes, skyscapes, cityscapes, all are part of the genre. I have not seen anything to indicate people are gonna vote down for presence of water. In fact, I think our highest-scoring DPC landscapes mostly DO have water in 'em...
 
 R.
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			|  | 04/24/2010 11:46:07 PM · #102 | 
		| | So, I know how people like to debate the fine details of the meaning of the challenge details......so don't jump all over me..... :) 
 Would anyone think that adding a "touch" of sepia to the photo would be against the "black and white" portion?
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			|  | 04/24/2010 11:50:43 PM · #103 | 
		| | | Originally posted by glockguy: So, I know how people like to debate the fine details of the meaning of the challenge details......so don't jump all over me..... :)
 
 Would anyone think that adding a "touch" of sepia to the photo would be against the "black and white" portion?
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 Yous plays your cards and takes yous chances. :)
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			|  | 04/24/2010 11:57:04 PM · #104 | 
		| | fair enough..... 
 But if I get one comment that says, "would have looked better a tad sepia...."  ;)
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			|  | 04/24/2010 11:59:48 PM · #105 | 
		| | | Originally posted by glockguy: So, I know how people like to debate the fine details of the meaning of the challenge details......so don't jump all over me..... :)
 
 Would anyone think that adding a "touch" of sepia to the photo would be against the "black and white" portion?
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 My current entry actually has a hint of warmish, sepia toning to it. But I am thinking of changing that, to be safe :-(
 
 R.
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			|  | 04/25/2010 12:03:14 AM · #106 | 
		| | yup.... My current one doesn't have any, but the one sitting in my CS4 window does.....
 
 I think I will leave it as is.  No point in having the "double/triple/multiple exposure" argument over "black and white v. Sepia"!
 
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			|  | 04/25/2010 12:19:25 AM · #107 | 
		| | What you might think of as a "tad of sepia" is going to stand out like a sore thumb after someone votes on 75 true B&W shots in a row.  Most would likely let it go, but there will be some 4- scores just on that alone. | 
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			|  | 04/25/2010 12:20:55 AM · #108 | 
		| | Ah, salvation!  I can tone mine then blame the score on that!  Thank you!!! | 
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			|  | 04/25/2010 12:59:16 AM · #109 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Melethia: Ah, salvation!  I can tone mine then blame the score on that!  Thank you!!!
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 Is this positive thinking, or what?
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			|  | 04/25/2010 02:31:10 AM · #110 | 
		| | | Originally posted by DrAchoo: Most would likely let it go, but there will be some 4- scores just on that alone.
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 Yep, that'd be a DNMC vote from me - speia just ain't the same as B&W in these parts of the world :)
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			|  | 04/25/2010 02:58:01 AM · #111 | 
		| | For what it's worth, sepia in the way most think of it, is a long ways from a slightly warm tone. I wouldn't consider sepia to be BW but I definitely will not mark down a slightly toned image because it isn't "true" BW. But, I'm just one voice among hundreds.  :) | 
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			|  | 04/25/2010 09:38:03 AM · #112 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Yo_Spiff: 
 | Originally posted by Melethia: Ah, salvation!  I can tone mine then blame the score on that!  Thank you!!!
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 Is this positive thinking, or what?
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 From the owner of two sub-5/barely-5 DPL scores at the moment, yeah, that is positive thinking!  :-)
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			|  | 04/25/2010 09:47:28 AM · #113 | 
		| | I have to concur - no "other" tones in BW. Here's what not to do:   
 At the time I wasn't even thinking it would be a problem, but it was. Lesson learned.
 
 
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			|  | 04/25/2010 11:48:36 AM · #114 | 
		| | Oh no I can't advance edit. :) 
 Looks like some people are relying to much on software, instead of their ability to take a good photo.
 
 
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			|  | 04/25/2010 12:05:08 PM · #115 | 
		| | | Originally posted by whiteflyer: Oh no I can't advance edit. :)
 
 Looks like some people are relying to much on software, instead of their ability to take a good photo.
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 It's not POSSIBLE to take a B/W digital photo without relying on software.
 
 In the meanwhile, B/W photography, and *especially* B/W landscape photography, is a venerable tradition with its own set of accepted aesthetic guidelines; we tend to be "looking for" certain things when we view B/W landscape photos. And a lot of those things we are looking for come from an extension of a very specific set of B/W darkroom techniques; which, unfortunately or otherwise, the administrators have chosen not to allow for this challenge.
 
 So it's understandable people are feeling the frustration. I certainly am. I have spent more time processing my entry for this challenge, or at least my possible entries, than I have for any other challenge in a long, long time. Is this a good exercise for me? Very possibly, and I am undertaking it in good spirits. But it is nevertheless frustrating, and it feels a little absurd, because it has nothing to do with the real world of photography that I live in...
 
 R.
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			|  | 04/25/2010 12:36:06 PM · #116 | 
		| | | Originally posted by Bear_Music: set of B/W darkroom techniques; which, unfortunately or otherwise, the administrators have chosen not to allow for this challenge.
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 Just to make it truly challenging is my assumption. It's certainly resulted in some throwaways that I could have had nice shots with under advanced.
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			|  | 04/25/2010 03:06:19 PM · #117 | 
		| | | Originally posted by DrAchoo: What you might think of as a "tad of sepia" is going to stand out like a sore thumb after someone votes on 75 true B&W shots in a row.  Most would likely let it go, but there will be some 4- scores just on that alone.
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 Sweet! Thanks for the tip. Would give me a boost.
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